Creation of Primary Cost Elements at FI area

Masters/Experts,
When i am trying to creat PCEs at FI area using Tcode-FS00, i am not getting a new screen after punching the EDIT COST ELEMENT pushbutton, infact i am getting the message "EDIT COST ELEMENT IS ONLY POSSIBLE FOR PL ACCOUNTS".
I can see the Radio button is on the P&L account statement and not on the balance sheet radio button.
Points will be awarded for the expertise.
Thanks,
Maria

Hi maria,
While creating or changing the G/L a/c by FS00, click the P/L acct radio button.Also mention the P/L acct statement type.If it is to be maintained in Retained Earnings, u can check 'X' (usually).after the account is created u can go by "edit cost Element" or by TCode KA01 and create the Primary Cost Element.
Please let me know if u r still facing the problems.
Please reward points if you find this to be useful.
Thanks,
Prithwiraj.

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