Creative could fork over class-action settlement over exaggerated MP3 capacities, ne

https://www.creativehddmp3settlement.com/welcome.asp?
Couldn't fit those last two Oingo Boingo albums on your Zen when you thought you had enough space? Get ready for payback, because if you own a Creative Labs MP3 player made between May 5, 200 and April 30, 2008, you could be entitled to a class-action settlement over this very issue. The proposed settlement -- not the first of its kind -- will force Creative to "make certain disclosures regarding the storage capacity of its hard disc dri've MP3 players" and give a 50% discount on a new GB player or 20% off any item purchased at Creative's online store, if it's approved by the court. For its part, Creative denies any wrongdoing, but it looks like it's offering up the settlement to smooth thing over with consumers -- but you know it's going to fight the $900,000 requested by plaintiffs' attorneys in fees. Applications are due by August 7, 2008, so start digging up those serial numbers.
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Source: http://www.engadget.com/

Saw that this morning.
IMHO the only one who wins are the lawyers.
I don't qualify for the 50% off a GB mp3 player (that isn't much capacity any more) and it isn't worth my time to save 20% off a Creative item purchased via their online store (that would just about bring the prices down to the Amazon level.)
This really is only the difference between how one calculates hard disk drive space (024 vs 000.) Anyone who's used a computer (or monitor) for any length of time at all is familiar with the argument. Their marketing should've caught this....

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    I then came to these boards and realized that the problem was NOT unique to my player, but seemed to effect almost the entire product line. I saw much rumbling about class action litigation, although no one seemed to be a lawyer. I'm not paying $40 and going without my player to fix a design defect; other companies I've had quality problems with (Gateway, for example) shipped new parts to me at their cost and then gave me a week to ship the old one back in the box they provided so that I never went without my computer and didn't have to spend any money at all, even out-of-pocket.
    I'm not a lawyer either; I should make that clear up front. I'm a law student in my last term, and I'll be a lawyer in six months. What this means is that I know enough to get the ball rolling here, and I also know of a law professor at my school- the Uni'versity of Michigan- who has done extensi've research on class action litigation and litigated several cases on the plaintiff's side himself. If the suit looks viable, I can approach him about signing on as the attorney, and he knows his business. Alternati'vely, we could pass off the suit to Girard Gibbs, the firm that successfully forced Apple into settlement over the iPod battery issue.
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    I may add more to this as I do more research. I'd also say that if you've been dealing with Creative on this issue and are interested in pursuing litigation either on your own or as part of a class, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. I'd say go for email help instead of phone when possible, because this will provide written documentation of Creative's policies. If you have the know-how and ability to backup the threads on this board about this problem, please do that as well. Creative may eventually delete these posts, including this one, so if that happens we need to be prepared.
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    Thanks.

    JK23 wrote:
    Headphone jacks also break on ipods.
    http://broken.typepad.com/b/2004/03/apples_<B>ipod</B>_rep.html
    http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Aug/bpd200308250246.htm
    http://jasonnolan.net/words/archi'ves/2004/0/fixed_my_ipod.html
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    For everyones attention: one of those links does not work, plus not one of the iPods are new ones. One of them is a third generation iPod - the rest seem to be second generation - one is possibly a first generation iPod. Come one, dude - you can find better links than that!
    We are talking the Micro here. You know, the kinda NEW player from Creative.Message Edited by Mattias on 05-23-2005 07:5 PM

  • Can no longer recommend Fascinate due to non-support of issues -  class action time?

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