CS4 clone tool

Is anyone having trouble with the clone tool in CS4 (PC, XP)? It just doesn't look or behave the way it does in previous versions.

Thanks, Mark. The OP posted back in April, so hope she worked through the "new" clone behavior. Actually, since it's dawned on me how this one behaves, I really like it, but I appreciate the tip on how to roll it back, just in case.
Also, it seems to work OK with Open GL turned on, but next time I encounter strange behavior with CS4, the Open GL switch will be the first step in the troubleshooting. I have an Nvidia GTX 285, with the latest driver, and 9GB of memory, and the GTX 260 is on the list of tested GPUs, so spec-wise CS4 and my GPU should work fine. Real world is another matter, and I've read of some issues with Nvidia drivers, so every time something strange happens, I think, Uh oh.
I'm glad there are those like you and Zeno with real help to offer. Again, thanks!
Jack

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I noticed for the first time that the new clone tool in CS4 is not using all of my processors on my new i7 965XE processor. In fact it uses only one processor and this makes it run incredibly slow. I have also noticed that CS4 in general is rather sluggish on this hardware which is supposedly one of the most powerful processors available. I am running the i7 965XE with 8GB of Ram and still find Photoshop rather slow. I would expect it to be super snappy on this hardware, perhaps I need to optimise settings somehow, does anyone have any suggestions or is CS4 not equipped to properly address the i7 processors yet???
Any help appreciated.
My version of CS4 is 11.0

Mike, could you take a moment to reread your original post?
"CS4 Clone Tool NOT Multithreading"
"In fact it uses only one processor and this makes it run incredibly slow."
Those are not observations and represent two direct conclusions, both of which are incorrect. The first conclusion is that the clone tool is not threaded for multiple processors (it is). The second conclusion is that the lack of threading is what makes the clone tool run slow on your system (almost certainly not the case).
Implied in your statements is a third conclusion: that using more processors makes things faster (rarely true). That is a common enough fallacy that I felt the need to offer a more detailed explanation to help you and other readers understand more about the issues involved. I tried to keep that explanation short and simple.
I gave you an alternate hypothesis (small clone area) that could have explained your observation, since you didn't provide enough details for us to rule that out.
I also gave you more information about what is going on under the hood to help you understand why you observed what you did on processor usage.
Then I pointed you to existing topics that offer a much more likely explanation for the slowdown you are seeing.
If you had described with the clone tool slowdown without the incorrect conclusions and without phrasing most of your post as accusations, you probably would have gotten useful help from other users more quickly. Even my first instinct was to ignore your post, but it sounded like you were confused, a bit angry, and needed some help.
I am sorry you read things into my post that I did not intend. I'm simply trying to help you understand what you observed, and find a solution to the problem you described.

CS4 Clone Tool Problem

I am using CS4, and my clone tool will act up every once in a while by cloning to an area that I have not gone over. I will be cloning and then when I start an area, nothing happens to the area cloned (the area I am trying to cover over with selected area), then suddenly another area of the photo will show the clone.
Has anyone had this problem, and know how to fix it? I have reset my settings by doing a CTRL, Shift, ALT at startup and that doesn't fix the problem.
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Can I ask a question in this panel? I have CS 4 which I just bought, the disk that came with it only has a few minutes of tutorial on it and wants to go online, I don't have my PC on line, nor do I have the capability on any of the 5 PC's. I don't seem to be able to find the CLONE SOURCE PANEL, so can't try the de-select "Show Overlay". Can you tell me where it is? Thanks, Larry Flagg

CS4: Clone tool cursor throws shadow under cursor

Well, it's not really a shadow. It appears to be a sample of where I OPTION-CLICK. All good and fine and I guess it must be thought of as an improvement, but for me it makes the clone tool unworkable because the 'shadow' shadows my clone cursor everywhere, blocking out what's underneath so I can't see what I want to select and where I want to clone to.
Q: How do I turn off the shadow?

Tool settings are always saved after restart, and this one is no exception.
Yes its a useful feature for certain types of work, but it probably shouldn't be the default. There should also be a check box in the Options Bar for this, and maybe a keyboard shortcut toggle also. On high res files it slows things down quite a lot.

CS4 Slow Clone Tool Speedup

You can speed up the clone tool by clicking on the top panel stamp icon. It opens a dialogue box. Uncheck "Show Overlay". Unfortunatly with every new image you open, i think you have to uncheck it.

Mike, could you take a moment to reread your original post?
"CS4 Clone Tool NOT Multithreading"
"In fact it uses only one processor and this makes it run incredibly slow."
Those are not observations and represent two direct conclusions, both of which are incorrect. The first conclusion is that the clone tool is not threaded for multiple processors (it is). The second conclusion is that the lack of threading is what makes the clone tool run slow on your system (almost certainly not the case).
Implied in your statements is a third conclusion: that using more processors makes things faster (rarely true). That is a common enough fallacy that I felt the need to offer a more detailed explanation to help you and other readers understand more about the issues involved. I tried to keep that explanation short and simple.
I gave you an alternate hypothesis (small clone area) that could have explained your observation, since you didn't provide enough details for us to rule that out.
I also gave you more information about what is going on under the hood to help you understand why you observed what you did on processor usage.
Then I pointed you to existing topics that offer a much more likely explanation for the slowdown you are seeing.
If you had described with the clone tool slowdown without the incorrect conclusions and without phrasing most of your post as accusations, you probably would have gotten useful help from other users more quickly. Even my first instinct was to ignore your post, but it sounded like you were confused, a bit angry, and needed some help.
I am sorry you read things into my post that I did not intend. I'm simply trying to help you understand what you observed, and find a solution to the problem you described.

Rx for Slow Clone Tool in CS4

Until Adobe can fix CS4s slow screen redraw, you have 3 options for speeding up the slow clone tool. 1-Go into the clone palette box by clicking on the stamp icon at the right side of the main menu bar. Uncheck Show Overlay. That alone will make a huge difference. 2-The more square inches the tool covers on your monitor, the slower it gets. Try to use the smallest brush [in terms of absolute area covered] as possible. But note: zooming in is not the cure. This applies to the brush tool also. 3-If CS4 is an upgrade, quit CS4 and open your previous version of Photoshop if you must use these larger tools extensively. But of course, when you can use smaller tools, and so you can rotate the canvas, reopen CS4. To paraphrase item-1: it is not the brush size that causes the lag but rather it is the amount of area on your screen being covered by that brush, no matter its size. The smallest brush will lag if your zoom is 3200%.

Wonderful!! Thank you very much, it was causing me much frustration!

Shift + command + f   very slow with cs4 clone and healing tool?

using cs4-- i use the shift + command + f a lot to fade in or out the clone tool and healing brush.
however in cs4 the preview is very slow-- even though i have 8gb of ram!
the same process on the same file in cs3 is rapid-- even with only 2gb of ram-- so i assume this is a cs4 problem?
any solutions appreciated.

Do you mean photoshop elements 7 and not premiere elements?
The fix posted above only applies to linux os systems, which is
different from mac and windows.
On windows vista Alt+left click is to set the clone source.
Try the following steps one at a time.
1. reset the clone stamp tool by clicking triangle on the far left of the
   tool options bar and select reset tool.
2. Go to Edit>Preset Manager and click Done in the dialog that appears.
3. Reset the elements 7 preferences by holding down the Shift+Alt+Ctrl keys
    at the same time you start elements 7. In the dialog that appears, click yes.
Hope this helps.
MTSTUNER

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I've been using PS for about 1 year and a half. Sort of an Advanced beginner. One of the things I love is the clone tool. Since I've upgraded to CS4 I've had nothing but problems with the Clone tool. When I go over an area it doesn't show anything and the either makes the adjustments after a long delay or it goes black and then comes back with the adjustment. Sometimes when I'm dragging the brush the whole picture goes away replaced by a smear of color noise. It really makes the tool unusable. In many cases I've gone back to CS3.
I also have similar problems with the content aware scaling. Never been able to get it to work. Basically some of the nicest new features of CS4 are worthless for me. Tried looking at Adobe solution and searching the forums but I haven't seen any exactly similar problems of solutions.
Any help appreciated. I have a white 24' Intel Mac with a 2.33 GHz Intel Core 2 Dual with 3GB RAM.
Alan

As always the various User Forums are fantastic. Adobe (and other) get everyone to do their Tech Service for them. Thanks for the help.
So, two new pieces of info. When I disable Open GL everything works fine. (Sorry about the TIFF, I just didn't catch it) So in essence this solves my problem.
Also PS CS4 works perfectly on my new Aluminum MacBook. So clearly it is an issue with the video board on my iMac.
This brings me to the wrap-up question. Should PS CS4 theoretically work with Open GL on my iMac or is it a know problem with CS4 and older graphics boards? I'm assuming my board supports Open GL.
This is the Profiler data on the Graphics Card
Chipset Model: NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x16
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0391
Revision ID: 0x00a1
ROM Revision: 3021
Displays:
iMac:
Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Hardware Accelerated
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Built-In: Yes
Some of the Open GL features are nice and wouldn't mind having them but not worth buying a new Mac for. So the questions is: Is the some kind of upgrade / driver I can load to solve this problem.
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Strange Effects When Using Erase & Clone Tools In CS4

I recently upgraded from Elements 8 to CS4 and I've noticed that I have started getting strange effects with both the erase and clone tools. When I have been working with either of these tools for a while I suddenly find that left clicking the mous will cause a spurious reaction in another part of my image. The erase tool erases strips and the clone tool clones other colours and areas. I suspect that it might be due to the amount of memory I'm using but advice would be appreciated. I am running Windows 7 and I have 4.00GB of physical memory and 11.8GB of virtual memory.
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CS4 Clone Stamp and Dodge/Burn not Working

CS4 clone stamp is kaput. Flattening image does not help. Source region shows in the cursor circle when pointing to target region, but when I left-click and hold, the target region shows, and cloning does not occur. Tried resetting the tool, no help. Opacity is 59, flow is 85 and hardness is 51.
Likewise tried the dodge/burn tool, does not work either.
Using PS v. 11.0.1 Tried to download windows patch to update to v. 11.0.2, but the msi file is not recognized as a valid windows installer.
I have CS3 on my notebook. Cloning the same region there works fine.
Any ideas appreciated.

I don't see anything obvious you've done wrong.
Some things to try:
Try temporarily disabling the use of OpenGL through Edit - Preferences - Performance, or selecting an alternate level (Basic/Normal/Advanced).
Try disabling the "Show Overlay" feature in the Clone Source panel.
Check the web site of the manufacturer of your video card for updated video drivers.
-Noel

Clone tool problems

I recently purchased the Adobe cs5 upgrade.
it works fine but I am encountering a huge problem with the clone tool.I am trying to clone from one image to another. I click on the source image and the familiar tool with the crosshair appears. When I move over to the target image the original crosshair on the source image disappears but the cloning occurrs. on my target image
The + sign on the source image is now invisible so it is hard to view the area I want to clone from
IN cs3 the + sign remained on the source image. I reset the tool but the problem still remains.
However when cloning one part to another on the same image there is no problem and can see what area I am cloning from
I do not know if there are any preferences I failed to choose. I am very familiar with Photoshop so this really baffles me
Hopefully some one will be able to solve this
Thanks for any assistance
mom70

Photoshop CS5 works for me just as you described too: No source indicator when cloning between images, a + indicator when cloning in the same image. In this case OpenGL Drawing was enabled, set to Advanced mode.
I did some additional testing...
With Photoshop CS5 and OpenGL DISABLED the behavior changes. In this case the + indicator DOES move around on the source image even when cloning from another image.
I also verified the exact same condition exists with Photoshop CS4.
Perhaps it's just something they couldn't quite get to work with the new OpenGL drawing mode.
Running without OpenGL is probably not a good workaround, as you lose a number of other good things without it.
There's an official bug report form here that you may wish to use:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
-Noel

Clone Tool-Change to a "PaintBrush" versus the circle selections.

In CS4, at one time I THINK, I was using the "Clone tool" as a paint brush versus the other circle, square type tool selection.
This allowed me a more precise clonning out of unwanted items. But I cannot find it nor do I remember how I initiated the action.
I may be using the wrong tool but can't remember.
Can someone help?
Thanks!
Dan

Thanks Noel but therein lies my confusion.
The brush in the clone tool is a misnomer to me. I never see a "brush as in paint brush". Just the circle, square, and other types of tools not a "paint brush" type.
I know I saw and used it somehow somewhere but just can't remember how I got to it.
Thanks!
Dan

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Any ideas?
Thanks,
Andy

OpenGL being necessary for certain of the new features You might want to look into whether Your graphics card is on the list of approved ones for CS4.
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405711.html
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html

I am using Lightroom 5 and am hapy about it, but recently I hav encountered a problem when trying to edit an image in another program, i.e. Elements. I used the clone tool, saved the result and went back to Lightroom to open the image there. I did find a

I am using Lightroom 5 and am hapy about it, but recently I hav encountered a problem when trying to edit an image in another program, i.e. Elements. I used the clone tool, saved the result and went back to Lightroom to open the image there. I did find a second copy, but this is identic with the one I already had in Lightroom, and I can see noe result of the clone process.

At the moment I would say it is uncertain whether Acrobat is completely ignoring the change, or whether the changes you are making aren't affecting the ink density. I have a suggestion for a test you could make to see which is the case.
When editing in Photoshop just add a box or mark on the image, for your tests.
- If this box does not appear in Acrobat, you know Acrobat is not seeing the edit
- If this box does appear in Acrobat, you know the problem is that your tool for changing ink densities is not taking effect.

Problems With Clone Tool on Windows 7 and Elements 8

The clone tool is exhibiting strange behavior on a friends installation of Elements 8 on Windows 7.
Sometimes the clone tool refuses to clone, other times it will clone in over dark areas but not light areas. We tried resetting to factrory settings. This worked for a while be reverted to the strange behavior after a couple of days.
It's on the correct layer and the mode setting for the clone tool is Normal and when it works in a darker area it will make it even darker but will not darken a very light (white?) area.
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I guess you have some blending mode other than 'Normal' selected.Click on the top-left corner of tool option bar and choose "Reset Tool".

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