CS4 editable master text frames in CS5 no longer editable

Hi,
Problem: Text frames on CS4 document pages (from locked text frames on masterpage) are no longer editable on CS5 document pages.
CS4 situation:
Masterpages contain text frames which are locked to prevent users from inadvertently moving them when working on document pages.
On document pages, the text frames can be edited, i.e. text entered, but are position-locked.
CS5 problem:
When you now open the same document, the text frames on the document pages are totally locked, the positioning as well as the content. This means they are no longer editable! The only way I have found to make them editable once again is to unlock the text frames. But unlocking also removes the position lock.
What do I have to do to get things working in CS5 like they were in CS4? Any quick solution or is this simply no longer possible?
Confounded by InDesign once again...

Yes, it works just like in CS4! Wunderbar!
As I just had some trouble finding the where to change this setting,
for anyone working with the German version of InDesign CS5:
Menü: Bearbeiten > Voreinstellungen > Allgemein
then under "Objektbearbeitung", remove the checkmark from "Auswahl von gesperrten Objekten verhindern"
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