Dataguard using ASM in primary node and FILESYSTEM in standby node

Hi There!
I need to configure a Dataguard, and my primary DB is working on ASM, the standby node is going to be using filesystems, so I want to know if there is a guide that I can follow in order to get this task successfully completed.
My operating system is Solaris 10, and the DB Release is 10.2.0.4. I want to know the best practices.
Also I want to remember some RMAN Restore and Recover techniques to have this configuration ready, up and running.
Thanks in Advance.
Paola
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setting this up isn't that different to setting up a single instance standby on ASM,
the MAA guide is here
http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/pdf/MAA_WP_10g_RACPrimarySingleInstancePhysicalStandby.pdf
this details the configuration using ASM on both sides, if you want to use filesystem storage on the standby then the following parameters will need to be changed
*.db_file_name_convert='+DATA/CHICAGO/','+DATA/BOSTON/','+RECOVERY/CHICAGO','+RECOVERY/BOSTON'
*.log_file_name_convert='+DATA/CHICAGO/','+DATA/BOSTON/','+RECOVERY/CHICAGO','+RECOVERY/BOSTON'
to something like
*.db_file_name_convert='+DATA/CHICAGO/','/oradata/boston','+RECOVERY/CHICAGO','/recovery/boston'
*.log_file_name_convert='+DATA/CHICAGO/','/oradata/boston','+RECOVERY/CHICAGO','/recovery/boston'
alternativly you can set the DB_CREATE_FILE_DEST and DB_CREATE_ONLINE_LOG_DEST_n parameters and let oracle create OMF files for the dataguard instance.
Chris

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