Dealer Invoice !!
Hi
In procurement from 1st stage or 2nd stage dealers is there any special customization in SPRO or its just we have to tick the MRP indicator and change excise base value during excise capture.
Any help will be appreciated
Thank You
Hiii
I am reposting my question in the hope that may be some one answers my query.
We are using TAXINJ in our implementation process. Now when we go for dealer invoice scenario an issue is there.
We create the PO with zero tax code. We capture excise during MIGO(101) and tick the MRP indicator and also change the excise base value to its real one.
Then we post J1IEX part2. Till here evrything happens perfectly.
Now during MIRO we change the base value and give the real tax code ( which is supposed to calculate ED,Cess,SHcess and VAT). Here the systems does not take the excise posted in J1IEX part2 ( ie captured during MIGO)but calculates on the base value at 14% (which is wrong) and as a result VAT also calculated wrong.
Now my query is ...Are we supposed to do special customization for this dealer scenario or not and if yes then can anyone guide me wats tht.
Thank You
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Excise invoice capture process for dealer invoice
Hi,
As I read in many thread, that for the capture of excise invoice for dealed invoice in Po for item we have to maintain the base price as addition of both base value + excise duty amounts, then using MRP indicator we have to capture the duty amounts for dealer invoice but I have some query, when delaer make the invoice . they pass on the duty, even the duty amount is not intially known which excise invoice amount the delaer will pass, so while creating PO, How we can exactly enter he amount as BASE VALUE + DUTY amount, we have to chnage the the PO or without changing PO amount we can proces for capture of excise duty also in PO which tax code should be select , if we seelct the regular tax code which we use for excise invoice capture for other supplier then system will calculate the tax amount in the PO also, so which tax code should be calculate.
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zafarAt the time of Po creation we will be knowing the duties which he will be passing you, but you will be not knowing the base price of material ,as vendor will add his amount also into the original base price and apss the invoice.
So will be creating the PO as original base price and excise only , but at the time of GRN he will add his profit into the base price and will give supply the material, so you need to change the base price while GRN to match the excise duties and tick the MRP indicator so that at time of miro the duties will flow correctly.
Hope this may help you.
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In dealer invoice, we have done the process by ticking the MRP indicator and entering the excise duties manually in MIGO. During MIRO, all the values are coming correctly except VAT.
For ex:
PO base value is 10000
VAT is 400
The total PO value is 10400.
Now in MIGO we have reduced the base value to the extent of excise values by clicking the MRP indicator and then posted.
So the GR entry:
Stock A/c Dr: 9917.6(1000-Excise values(80(BED)1.6(Ecess)0.8(Shecess)
to GR/IR A/c Cr. 9917.6
Now in MIRO
The following entry is coming:
GR/IR clearing a/c dr 9917.6 dr
Cenvat clearing a/c dr 80
Cenvat clearing a/c dr 1.6
Cenvat clearing a/c dr 0.8
Vat input a/c dr 396
To Vendor a/c cr 10396
Now you can see the vat input amount instead of 400 it is coming as 396. This is wrong. Please suggest me how to make it correct.
Thanks & Regards,
A.Anandarajan.Hi,
Thanks for your reply. We are using TAXINN. For dealer invoice only, the VAT is not getting calculated on BaseExcise duty. For normal invoices(exclusive), the VAT is getting calculated on BaseExcise duty. Please suggest me.
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Auto matching of dealer invoices of multiple dealer or all dealer
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Can we match all / some Dealer Invoices (RV) with payment (AB,DZ) automatically which exclude Excess invoices?Hi
In one of my projects, we had a similar situation. The Customers used to make electronic payments against invoices to our bank. When the bank recon file was uploaded, it contained the reference of invoices against which payment was receieved. The automatic bank recon was configured to record the payment and also clear customer invoices against the payments recieved. You will have to work with your customers and bankers to record reference of invoices before you can set automatic clearing of customer invoices.
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Lakshmanan.Shi,
create a PO with zero tax code. such that base amount is equal to the inclusive of all excise duties.
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change the base value in the migo and manually enter the excise duties in migo, capture it and then post
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Dealer invoice excise duty..?
Hi all
Can anybody explain me about , wht is dealer invoice with excise duty.
How it wil difffer from other invoice ..
What are the other excise invoices are there while purchasing ..?
Thanks
sap-mmHI
To breif you, Dealer's are not suppose to avail the CENVAT credit they have paid to vendor of the goods at the time of purchase, reason behind is unless and untill you are doing any value addition in the production process or using the goods in your production process you are not eligible to take to CENVAT credit of the duties paid (As per Excise Law).
Now comig back to your question, since the delear is not taking any CENVAt credit therefor he will pass on the duties to us using the delear invoice which will include the name of vendor who has sold the goods to him and the duty amount which the vedor had charged to the Dealer. So the whole scenario is to pass the duty charged by the original vendor to delaer and then to us.
Please Note: This duty will not change even if the Dealer will add his margin (Gains) on the rate of the goods.
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Cenvat Clearing not coming in MIRO in case of Dealer Invoice
Hi,
This is a scenario of purchasing from dealer wherein the exact excise duty and VAT/CST is not known while creating a Purchase Order.
I did the following steps
Created PO with
One item of 5 quantity @ 1000 INR (Total Base Value = 5000 INR)
Assigned a tax code (V3) with Nil Excise and 5 % VAT Deductible
Did Goods Receipt (with Capture Excise Invoice Only)
Selected MRP Indicator
In Excise Tab at Item Level
Changed Base Value from 5000 to 4485 INR
Put BED as 500, ECS as 10 and SEcess as 5 INR
Posted the Excise Invoice in J1IEX, here the Cenvat Clearing Account was credited with 4485 INR
Now while trying to do Invoice Verification in MIRO
Again changed the base Value from 5000 to 4485 INR and selected the same Tax Code (V3) which was used in PO
Now the system is not considering Cenvat Clearing Account (Excise Duty) and since Excise duty is not being taken into account, the VAT is being calculated on the basis of Base Value (4485 INR) only not on the Base Value + Excise Duty
Please give me ideas to resolve this issue
Thanks in advanceThese are the details about the Tax Code (V3) being used and its condition record
Procedure TAXINN
Tax Code V3
Desciption Excise Nil and VAT 5%
Excise Duty JMOP 0
Set Off JMX1 100
EduCess JEC1 0
EduCess Set Off JEX1 100
SEduCess JSEP 0
SEduCess Set Off JHX1 100
VAT (RM) Claimable JVRD 5 -
VAT calculation going wrong in dealer invoice
Hi All,
I am doing a dealer purchase scenario where in am giving basic price inclusive of excise in the PO and then while capturing excise invoice am changing the base value and excise duties manually in MIGO by checking MRP indicator such that sum of excise base value and excise duty is equal to PO price and similarly am changing base while doing MIRO but am still not getting the VAT correct.
for example
PO price excluding VAT - 102,490.00
VAT - 4,099.60 + 1,024.90
Excise duties = 6,394.00 + 128.00 + 64.00
In MIGO i have changed base value as 95,904.00 and captured and posted the above excise duties. In MIRO i have changed base value as 95,904.00 and selected the tax code with excise 10.3 and VAT 4+1. Excise duties are coming as in excise invoice but VAT is being calculated based on PO price + (excise duty based on the base value in Excise Invoice i.e., )
Plz suggest
Edited by: SAp321436 on Jan 12, 2011 6:16 AMhi
what are the exicse % you have maintained in TAX CODE
it should be zero
like excise =0
cess=0
secess=0
and vat =4
vat1 =1
ASSIGN ACCOUNTS for all conditions including excise
now check
regards
kunal
now use this code -
During purchase from dealer / trader I want to do excise entry . I am not entering anything in PO . I am giving Excise entry at the time of MIGO . Now please tell me at the time of MIRO how can the tax liability be booked .
Hi,
In case of procurement from dealers the PO price is excise inclusive. So before goods receipt in J1IEX capture the excise with respect to Purchase order. During capture change the Excise Base amount to the Accessable value that the vendor will provide in its transporter copy. Tick the MRP indicator in the Excise header in Miscellaneous tab. Give the Excise Invoice Number, date & save it. Now During Goods receipt refer the excise invoice number & put the same date & the excise amounts will be copied from the Excise invoice. Post the goods receipt. Check the External amount in the Quantity tab in the Goods receipt document. Put that amount in the MIRO screen during Invoice verification.
Do the same for each & every line item in GR document. You will see that the VAT amount is properly calculated. The VAT amount will hit during invoice (MIRO). The CST is an inventorized item & will hit during the Goods receipt.
Pl. see the OSS Note 1104456 .You will find the Solution in this OSS Note .There is a ZIP file for this Scenerio.
Refer
[Dealer Excise details Capture]
Regards,
Vikas
Edited by: Vikas Mayekar on Jul 30, 2009 2:33 PM -
Hi Experts
I have a typical issue.
My client gets an invoice from dealer where the basic prices and assesable values are different.
ALong with BED/ECS/SECS Additional duty of customs is also charged by the vendor.
On the basic price the duties are added and then on them packing and vat is charged.
I am using TAXINN procedure.
How do I map this.
RegardsHi,
This is Traders pass-on scenario.
Eg. :
Material Price = 80/-
Excise Duty = 20/- (BEDECessSECess+ADC)
Total =100/-
VAT @3% = 3/-
Grand Total =103/-
Step 1:
Create PO with Base Price as 100/- by selecting tax code which is having VAT as 3%
(Total PO value will be 103/-)
Step 2:
Post MIGO and Capture Excise Part - 1
Click on More details icon in Excise tab(header), check MRP Indicator, sub transaction - IP
Enter Assesable value as 80 in Excise tab Item level and enter the excise values BED,
ECess,SECess,ADC, check & save the document.
Step 3;
Post Excise Part 2 in J1IEX
Step 4:
Post MIRO by checking calculate tax, edit base value as 80/- enter the amount in header as
praposed by the system (103/-), simulate & post the document.
bye
sridhar thota -
Dealer invoice with ECESS and HCESS : MIIRO Problem
Hi All ,
I have created a PO with Basic value 1000 , GR BASED IV is ticked and selected a tax code in PO where
JVRN (VAT NON DEDUCTABLE) condition record is maintained with 20%
and
JMOP (BED) , JEC1 (ECESS) and JHC1 (HCESS) with 0 value
and
Therefore my total PO value is now 1200.
JMXP (Set Off BED) , JEX1 (SET off ECESS) and JHX1 (SET Off HCESS) as 100%
Now I am wanted to claim CENVAT for
BED 100
ECESS 60
HCESS 40
The Step I followed are
1) J1iex capture
Basic Excise Amount = 1200 - 200 (VAT) - 100 (BED) - 60 (ECESS) - 40 (HCESS) = Rs. 800
2) MIGO Posted
Accounting enteries
GR/IR Cr. 1000
Inventory Dr. 1000
3) J1iex Posting
GR/IR - CENVAT 200.00-
RG23A BED 100
RG23A ECS 60
RG23A HECS 40
4) MIRO
Base Amount (at Line level) = Rs. 800 [(1200 - 200 (VAT) - 100 (BED) - 60 (ECESS) - 40 (HCESS)]
Selected Calculate TAX , system is calculating TAXes as 300 and following proposed enteries are given by system during simulation
Vendor 1100 -
GR/IR 1000
CENVAT CLG 100
Therefore there is a difference of 100 Rs in CENVAT CLG and VENDOR liability.It is only considering BED amount which is 100 , but not ECESS and HCESS.
In TAXINN procedure , accounting key attached with JMOP, JEC1 and JHC1 is JI1.
And CENVAT CLG account is maintained in OB40 for JI1 for my TAX CODE.
I am just wondering why system is only calculating BED not ECESS and HCESS ?
Need your advice.
Regards
ShreyHi ,
Problem resolved
Point to check
Condition type in "Classify Condition type" and in tax procedure should align
Record should be available in TAX code by country
OB40 , J1I GL should be assign
Regards
Shrey -
First Stage Dealer Excise Invoice
Hi,
We get an Excsie Invoice (First Stage Dealer Invoice *** Challan) from a Vendor as per the below detail:
Qty: 480
Rate: 114
Net Value: 54720
Assessable Value for Excise: 72480
Excise 10%: 7248 (Recoverable)
ECess 2%: 144 (Recoverable)
SHECess 1%: 72 (Recoverable)
Value for VAT Calculation: 62184
VAT 5%: 3109 (Recoverable)
Total Invoice Value: 65293
I have tried to map the scenario with SAP Note 1104456 - Use of MRP indicator for capturing excise duties from dealer but could not succeed.
I am not able to decide on following:
a. the Net Price in the Purchase Order,
b. Amount (Base Value, Excise Duty) which needs to be the entered manually at the time capturing Excise Invoice at the Goods Receipt (T Code: MIGO) with MRP Indicator.
c. the invoice amount at the time of invoicing.
Request you to please help us in the above scenario.
Also request you to tell me the FI Entries with Amount at all the stages.
Regards,
PKHi,
For the excise value you have to run the transaction code J1IEX(selection Capture:left corner in the screen) to capture.The system will take the base value and quantity from the Purchase order as u are going to capture the Excise amount with Reference to Purchase order by default. If quantity and Base value as well as the BED ,Cess, Ecess you have to change manually if reuired.Then save it......Go for GR....the system will ask the Excise invoice ref no. and date of Excise Capture.(in selection you take referral....option will be there).put the vendor Excise number and date which was given at the time of capture.system will take the capturing excise amount automatically.Check all the excise amounts in Excise Item.Post the GR.Again go J1iex transaction code select Post option(left corner)..put either vendor inv. no. or internally generated Excise no. and post it.
now for Vat amount the tax code will calculate in the P.O it self ...check that one .....the same amount will come at the time of MIRO.
and also the excise amount will come as per it is captured and posted when you trick on the check box (calculate tax)
With Regards,
Sudipto -
Excise Invoice Tab should not open at GRN
Hello all,
I am trying to procure assets with account assignment A and without material code. I am using 0% tax. We also do not have any records in J1ID tcode.
However, during GRN the Excise invoice tab is opening up.
One way to get around at GRN is to use " no excise entry". But this tab should not be opening at all.
Can you guess what configuration, if any, might be making the system propose excise for the PO. The PO item is not excisable in fact.
Thanks and regards,
SoumyadeepHi,
If you using asset PO without material master with a vendor. Now if you do not want excise TAB should come in MIGO, then remove vendor number in J1ID t.code and then do GR.
If you want to enter excises details , then you should slect check box of "Duty different at GR" check box selected ( so that you can entry manually the excises value in MIGO screen) in MIGO Setting segment in Maintaining Excise Group setting in following path
SPRO ->>Logistics general ->> tax on Goods Movements-->>India -->> Basic setting -->>Maintain Excise Groups
NOTE:
If you want Excise fields are should not be open, then you DO NOT should select check box of "Duty different at GR" in the above path. But think what about Dealer Invoice Scenarios.
Regards,
Biju K -
Hi Experts,
I have one typical problem in SAP
Due to space constraint in the current Plants (X and Y) we are planning to operate an extend Warehouse(WH) operated by us. The Scope of the warehouse is only receiving the part from supplier, GR making, Inspection and binning in respective places. Based on the plant demand (Qty)the parts will be moved to respective plant in Stock transfer invoice (STO).
The extend warehouse is registered as a first stage dealer since no Manufacturing is happening in that location. Currently we are doing STO between plants (i.e.) from X to Y and Y to X. We don’t have any issue in ST invoice
But in the case of new WH, the parts will be received from supplier for e.g.: 1000 No's and the GRN is made @ WH and X requirement is 100 Nos. In that case we need to move the part from WH to ORG with a ST invoice of 100 Nos. But the excise availment is done for the 1000 No's at WH. Since the WH is considered as a first stage dealer I need a ST Invoice to be “dealer Invoice” i.e., ED(Excise Duty) will be transferred to the mother plant for the proportionate Qty of dispatch
Is there a provision in SAP to make a dealer invoicing for Stock transfer?
This dealer invoicing is available in S&D module. But is the same is available for Stock transfer of parts from Inbound side (i.e Parts from WH)
Regards,
MahiHave you configured the WH in CIN configuration as a Excisable depot?
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