Debit side Down Payment Chain Link to Sales Order
Hi,
I have activated EA-FIN for capturing customer retention amount. Durin creation of debit side down payment chain system asks for a sales contract number. Once the document is saved system generates the invoice with retention amount on spl GL.
This invoice is not reflected in the document flow of sales order. Let me know if this can be possible link Debit side Down Payment Chain to sales order?
Regards,
Ajay Gupte
Dear ,
about my Q2: I want to change Line item number of sales order after posting customer down payment.
Have you looked Q1 : that sytem did not asked to enter line item number of sales order at the time of posting down payment
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Can any one tell me what is the exact usage of down payment chains. and best business scenario for that?
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Detailed answers will be appreciated.
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Creation of A/R Down Payment Invoice based on Sales Order not logical
When creating a A/R Down Payment Invoice based on a Sales Order you
have the option to create multible ones. Which by itself could be
usefull to create one of 50 % for a certain day and decide they need to
pay another 25 % at a later date.
But SBO does not track what already have been posted. Therefore you can
create a sum more then a 100% without warning or blockage.
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Create and post a Sales Order
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Making the total for the Sales Order 210% worth of Down Payment
Invoices without warning/blocking. I would expected that you would only
be able to set the rest sum %. For instance first scenario I entered
60% therefore setting the second Down Payment Invoice to a max of 40%
Untill you have used up the 100% and you cannot select the Sales Order
in question..
If multible users do the same work, SBO doesn't show that it has
already been done. Same if you forgot you already created it you can
still create one. Plus sometimes it will happenyou create the Down
Payment Invoice and not paying attention you create the first one with
a 100% and later with the intended percentage..Hello Petronella,
you are right that B1 is not checking the total value of DP created from the Sales Order.
The logic and checking procedure here is only between Sales Order -> Delivery/Invoice.
DP Invoice is considered as transaction related to document the receipt of the money (parallel to the sales process). Between the moment of basing of DP to Sales Order it is still possibility to adjust Sales Order as there is no posting behind Sales Order.
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I the Down Payment Chains application is
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This because SAP cannot guarantee that the application meets legal
requirements in other countries.
The Down Payment Chains were developed to meet the business requirements
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Can any one please provide me configuration material for Down Payment Chains? I have already gone through SAP help documents; I would be very grateful if any one provides me document apart from SAP help document.
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1. creat a GL account Downpayment Made
2. Link between Recon account and Alternative account in OBYR
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5. Clear downpayment in f-54
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Down payments u2013 Credit Management, Sales Value FD32.
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We have a problem with the credit management in Down payments. The down payments requests are not decreasing the Sales Value of the client. I mean when I bill a down payment, the sales value of the client in transaction FD32 keep with the same value. I have to bill the next milestone where the down payment is cleared to decrease the sales value of the client.
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1º Down payment 200
2º Final Billing 1000
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Bill the Final Invoice. Sales Value FD32 = 0.
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Thank you in advance and best regards.Hello Alberto,
As you mentioned down payment of 200 and final bill of 1000, generally down payment is received at the start of activity. If you have credit limit say 500 and you receive down payment of 200 then system store down payment in separate GL account and when you carry out business, system first consider consuming down payment and then credit limit. So down payment never consider as sales till it get cleared off as it is before start of business as extra security to manage risk
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Where can we link between sales order to Credit management?
HI Gopala rao.,
In VOV8 sales document type there is <b>credit limit & Credit group</b> Where we asign the credit mage,ment data to Order
The configuration part of credit managemnt is
CREDIT MANAGEMENT:
A credit limit may be a customers credit limit, which is the permitted limit of value of open items, such as invoices not yet paid, plus the value of open sales orders.
The credit limit is the total combined value of the following documents:
Net value of sales order
Open Sales order: order created, but not delivered
Open deliveries: delivered, but not invoiced
Open billing doc: value of billing doc, which has not yet been forwarded to accounting
Open items: forwarded to accounting, but not settled.
Types of Credit Check
Simple Credit Check
Automatic Credit Check
o Static
o Dynamic
Simple Credit Check:
SPRO- IMG- SD- Basic Functions- Credit Mgmt/ Risk Mgmt- Simple Credit Check- Assign Credit Check to Doc Types.
Based on sales doc types
It will check all the above-mentioned docs & if the credit limit exceeds, the system responds in the way defined by you in the configuration menu.
Cannot differentiate according to customer
3 ways to Control the Simple Credit Check:
A: warning
B: error message: the doc cannot be saved
C: warning message with delivery block: the doc can be saved but is automatically blocked for delivery.
Automatic Credit Check:
This credit mgmt control is maintained by using the automatic credit control functionality. The automatic credit control divides the sales doc types, the delivery doc types, & goods issue into specific credit groups. It also uses the customers risk category as assigned to the CMD of the payer & assigns an outcome proc to the combination of the above 2 objects, i.e. the credit group & customer risk category along with the credit control area. The definition of customers risk category is carried out in the fin accounting module.
A customers risk category is a grouping category that controls the credit check when automatic credit control takes place. Thus one can assign high-risk customers to risk category for e.g. A01, medium risk to B01 and low risk to C01.
Automatic credit check divides customers in to 3 categories:
High-risk customers,
Low risk customers &
Medium risk customers.
A credit check can only occur at 3 places: Credit Group
Sales order: for high risk customers
Delivery: for medium risk customers
Goods Issue: for low risk customers
Credit Control Area (CCA): highest organizational element in credit management. A credit control area is an organizational unit that is comprised of one or more company codes. A company code can have no more than one credit control area. Defined by FI.
Menu Path to create Credit Control Area: OB45: FI people.
SPRO- IMG- Enterprise Stru- Definition- Fin Accounting- Define Credit Control Area
Credit Control Area Description
0001 Credit control area 0001
1000 Credit control area Europe
Menu Path to Assign Company Code to Credit Control Area: OB38: FI people.
SPRO- IMG- Ent Stru- Assignment- Fin Accounting- Assign Comp Code to CCA
It is possible to assign Credit Control Area to a Sales Area. This is more specific assignment than the assignment to Company Code.
Company code Company name City Credit Control Area Over write CCA
Menu Path for Defining Risk Categories: OB01: FI people
SPRO- IMG- Fin Accounting- Account Receivables & Payables- Credit Mgmt- Credit Control Account- Define Risk Categories.
Risk Category CCA Name
001 4500 Low risk
002 4500 Medium risk
003 4500 High risk
Menu Path for defining Credit Groups: OVA6
SPRO- IMG- SD- Basic Function- Credit Mgmt/ Risk Mgmt- Credit Mgmt:
Define Credit Groups: OVA6
Assign Credit Groups to Sales Docs & Delivery Docs
o Credit Limit check for Order Types: OVAK
o Credit Limit check for Delivery Types: OVAD
Define Automatic Credit Control: OVA8
Define Credit Croups: OVA6
One merely creates a credit group for each differentiation in the doc type. You enter the credit groups when you configure the sales doc types for credit management & define the automatic credit check. The following credit groups are contained in the standard R/3 system:
01: credit group for sales order
02: credit group for delivery
03: credit group for goods issue
CG (Credit Group) Doc Credit Group
01 Credit group for sales order
02 Credit group for delivery
03 Credit group for goods issue
Assign Sales Documents & Delivery Documents:
Sales Doc Type Descp Check Credit Credit Group
OR Std Order D 01
Delivery Type Descp Del Credit Group GI Credit Group
LF Delivery 02 03
Define for each sales doc type whether a credit check should be carried out. Enter D if an automatic credit check should be carried out.
Specify a Credit Group
Specify a Credit Group for the Delivery Type for which you want to carry out a credit check
Specify a Goods Issue Credit Group for the Delivery Type for which a credit check is to be carried out for goods issue.
SIMPLE CREDIT CHECK CANNOT BE ASSIGNED TO DOCUMENTS.
Define Automatic Credit Control:
One can now assign settings to the combination of the Credit Control Area, the Customer Risk Category & the Credit Group.
CCA Risk Cat Credit Group Credit Control
4500 001 01 Low risk sales orders
4500 001 02 Low risk deliveries
4500 001 03 Low risk goods issue
4500 002 01 Medium risk sales orders
4500 002 02 Medium risk deliveries
4500 002 03 Medium risk goods issue
4500 003 01 High risk sales orders
4500 003 02 High risk deliveries
4500 003 03 High risk goods issue
Select line item and go to details, you can decide whether to do Static or Dynamic Credit Check. Credit Horizon can also assigned here. Additional function checks can be performed here:
A credit check when the maximum document value is exceeded.
A credit check when changing critical fields.
The risk category assignment occurs in the same place as the customers credit limit, which is the customers credit management screen. That is, the risk category is assigned to the customer by the Finance in transaction code FD32.
The customer credit master record is divided in to 5 views:
Overview Screen: gives an overview of credit settings in relation to the customer, including his credit limit, credit exposure, the %tage of credit limit used, his payment data & his risk category.
Address: view gives the customers address details as they appear in CMD
Central Data: is a view that shows the total credit limit the customer can receive across all credit control areas as well as the maximum limit he can receive in one credit control area.
Status: view shows the customers actual individual details according to particular CCA being investigated. This includes his credit limit, percentage used, credit exposure, risk category, whether he is blocked due to credit or not.
Payment history: view displays the payments made by the customer for a particular credit control area where a comp code is assigned.
Static Credit Check Dynamic Credit Check
Net Doc Value Net Doc Value
Open Order Open Order
Open Delivery Open Delivery
Open Billing Open Billing
Open Item Open Item
Compares the total combined values of the above-mentioned documents to credit limit. Plus credit horizon. Compares the values of the following documents to credit limit + credit horizon.
Credit horizon has an attached time period that states that the system is not to include sales orders in the total of outstanding items created after that specified period i.e. for the purpose of evaluating credit, you want the system to ignore all open orders that are due for delivery after the horizon date. Maintained for low & medium risk customers.
Update Groups
Basically it is a info structure where system stores all the data about credit limit. The credit relevant data is updated in a info structure, where it is accessed & updated. Thus each automatic credit control must be assigned an update group.
Update Group 000012
Update Group 000015: delivery & billing
Update Group 000018: sales order, delivery & billing.
Update group 000012, updates at:
Sales doc: increased order value
Delivery: decreased order value & increased delivery value
Billing: decreased delivery value & increased billing amount
Invoice: decreased billing amount & increased open item value.
Release Blocked Sales Order/ Deliveries:
VKM3: sales order
VKM5: delivery
VKM4: both
One can see the offending document. Note on the right hand side, the Status Field. This shows the check, the doc failed. If this field is empty, the doc did not fail a credit check, even though it may be in the list of SD documents that are required to be released.
To release the doc, one indicates the doc to be released and then clicks on the Release Button. The result is the offending doc entry, highlighted green. One then proceeds to save, after which you are informed the doc number has been released.
Net value with sub total A, in pricing proc, will be the basis for credit limit.
REWARD if helpfull
Thanks & Regards
Narayana
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Vendor down payment request to MM purchase order
We want to post vender down payments request and make the relation with the purchase order.
Up to now the systems ask for the purchase order number (mandatory) and the line item number (mandatory)
As we have with our customer PO's with sometimes more than 100 line items, we do not want to relate down payments request for every PO line item.
Is it possible to link the total amount of the down payment request to the purchase order as a whole, so without the line item numbers.
Thanks
Martien
Edited by: M. van den Eshof on Mar 12, 2010 1:10 PMDear Martien,
we have had the same problem here at our company. In ECC6.0 we haven't found a solution for this.
We are doing a workaround:
We post the down payment request only on one, the main item in the purchase order. But this causes negative effect on cash management.
If you find a other solution, so please tell me.
Best regards.
Manuel -
Down payment request to the purchase order as a whole for f-48
Hi Gurus
I want to post vender down payments request and make the relation with the purchase order.
Up to now the systems ask for the purchase order number (mandatory) and the line item number (mandatory)
As we have with our customer PO's with sometimes more than 100 line items, we do not want to relate down payments request for every PO line item.
Is it possible to link the total amount of the down payment request to the purchase order as a whole(we can say as Header), so without the line item numbers.
Actually looking for any screen exit is available for that or any other way.
Regards
RKCheck for FI user exits in this link
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPFI/UserExitsin+FI
Check also this links
USer Exit / Badi F-47 & F-59
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ABAP/Find%2bApplication%2bclass%2bwith%2bExits%2band%2bBadis%2bfor%2ba%2bTransaction
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on May 25, 2010 1:03 PM -
Down payment request to the purchase order as a whole
Hi Gurus
I want to post vender down payments request and make the relation with the purchase order.
Up to now the systems ask for the purchase order number (mandatory) and the line item number (mandatory)
As we have with our customer PO's with sometimes more than 100 line items, we do not want to relate down payments request for every PO line item.
Is it possible to link the total amount of the down payment request to the purchase order as a whole(we can say as Header), so without the line item numbers.
Regards
RKHi
Actually looking for any screen exit is available for that or any other way
Rgs
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