Debugging a slow firefox

Lately I have noticed my web connection is really slow. I always use firefox and had assumed the problem to be with my router or ISP.
However I just started doing some stuff in parallels, and realised the response of the firefox browser from within windows is much faster. Then i tried safari and the same story - a much faster response.
I can even curl a URL from the terminal and get the response back much faster than firefox running on OSX.
I guess I should be asking this question on some firefox forum, but I want to get some tips from OSX users about how to debug this issue - how can I go about finding where the time is going when I request a page with firefox? can I see the traffic going out of the network connection?
It just feels as if there's a massive lag when firefox is first asked for a URL... as though it's having to ask permission for something from the OS. It seems to get quicker once a page has come back....
I have all my plug-ins disabled.
Any thoughts / advice appreciated.

I have noticed an additional problem.
Firefox hangs all the time, usually after I've been using it for about 20 minutes. I have to continually force quit and reboot the darn thing. When I use the restore function, it usually returns me to a page that's 2 or 3 pages prior to the last one I was using.
I didn't have this problem with Firefox previously but since I updated to 2.0.0.14, this problem never stops occurring. Anyone know where the conflict is? It's getting very annoying. I like the way FF handles several things better than Safari but I am almost ready to switch to a new browser (I'm open to suggestions there too. I don't really like Safari a whole lot).

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Videos played via internet are so slow and choppy, SLOW Firefox

Was wondering if anyone knew for sure the reason why videos/movie trailers played thru either Safari or Firefox are extremely slow and choppy on my G5 imac or G4 iBook laptop. Not sure if the outdated processors cant handle the flash embedded videos Youtube, Quicktime and other sites post, but it is really annoying not to be able to watch anything smoothly. Even if i let the entire video load (if it is a quicktime), then play it, it still is very choppy. The audio plays fine, but the video never keeps up. I have a 6mb DSL connection, so that cant be the problem. Any video I play via my iPod Touch (aside from flash videos it cant play) they are as smooth as can be (And that is via a wireless connection). Which makes me think it is a processor issue. Any thoughts?
Anyone have any suggestions on how I can remedy this situation? (aside from buying a new computer...)
PLUS, does anyone notice how slow Firefox is, or is it just me? Seems like even when i type in this form field, time lags as the letters show up. I have the latest version, and it is so slow. Switching tabs takes time... Reading and accessing RSS fields in the Feed Sidebar plug in is really slow...
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

QuickTime is designed to "drop" frames during playback when the machine can't keep up with the video data rate (audio continues normally). This may appear as a "stutter" during playback on an older machine.
It's not based on the Internet connection speed.
Apple movie trailers use the newer (2005) H.264 video codec and they demand a high CPU (Intel is best). You should get better performance on your G5 than on the G4.
Videos encoded using Flash will be equally difficult to view on older machines

Safari slow - FireFox fast

I just come U.S from China. I am using school's network now.
the soft update always report error, can not link to the sever. and safari, itunes, quicktime link very slow. just like through a slow proxy. but haven't set any proxy
the firefox works well. skype works well, ichat works well.
my friend told me, maybe is the DNS error. I try to link google by ip and web address with safari. they spent same time, about 3min, while firefox about 1sec.
Mac mini Mac OS X (10.4.5)
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Answer from Michael Bradshaw
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Re: i can't link the update
Posted: Mar 11, 2006 3:04 PM in response to: golden grape
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golden grape - Welcome to the discussions!
DNS problems are very irritating - and some of the hardest to figure out.
Let's start gathering some information to see how things are set up. Open the Network Utility and go to the "Lookup" tab. Pick one or two addresses and look them up. How long does the server report it took to do the lookup (query time). How long did you wait from clicking go?
P.S. sometimes the best thing is to ignore these things for an hour or so - it's often a temporary thing while your DNS server works out the addresses you need. Also - mac OS will cache the addresses - so once you have them - you don't need to wait anymore on DNS to find things. Try to leave your mac on as long as possible - unless you have some bad software or corruption on a disk - the longer it runs, the faster things will get.
golden grape
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Re: i can't link the update
Posted: Mar 11, 2006 3:59 PM in response to: Michael Bradshaw
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the lookup follows:
; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> www.google.com
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 19675
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 6, ADDITIONAL: 6
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.google.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com. 864 IN CNAME www.l.google.com.
www.l.google.com. 174 IN A 72.14.203.104
www.l.google.com. 174 IN A 72.14.203.99
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
l.google.com. 63663 IN NS e.l.google.com.
l.google.com. 63663 IN NS g.l.google.com.
l.google.com. 63663 IN NS a.l.google.com.
l.google.com. 63663 IN NS b.l.google.com.
l.google.com. 63663 IN NS c.l.google.com.
l.google.com. 63663 IN NS d.l.google.com.
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.l.google.com. 69875 IN A 216.239.53.9
b.l.google.com. 65589 IN A 64.233.179.9
c.l.google.com. 69875 IN A 64.233.161.9
d.l.google.com. 69875 IN A 64.233.183.9
e.l.google.com. 70669 IN A 66.102.11.9
g.l.google.com. 7812 IN A 64.233.167.9
;; Query time: 7 msec
;; SERVER: 136.165.253.10#53(136.165.253.10)
;; WHEN: Sat Mar 11 15:53:47 2006
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 276
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The problem exists about 1 week already.
i can link to google with firefox very quickly. but very slow with safari.
Mac mini Mac OS X (10.4.5)
Michael Bradshaw
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New! Re: i can't link the update
Posted: Mar 11, 2006 4:30 PM in response to: golden grape
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7ms! Your DNS server is a lot faster than mine.
I can confidently say that you don't have DNS problems. If you had DNS problems - firefox and Network Utility should be equally slow. This really has nothing to do with mini hardware either.
It would be best to ask a new question titled "Safari slow - FireFox fast" in the Safari group. I'm sure a lot of people there will have good ideas to find out what causes safari to go slow when firefox can browse the same site with speed.
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=169
One things I can suggest is:
* Temporarily change your Safari preferences to open the bookmarks or a blank page. You will know if safari is waiting on something locally or the web page is drawing slowly. I doubt this is it - but you never know until you try to narrow down what exactly is slow.

I am using school's network now.
Does the same thing happen if you connect to the internet through 'normal' means, such as a home internet connection (broadband, dialup etc), or does it just happen at school?
Matt

Hi! I downloaded a plug-in that slowed Firefox, even after I removed it. I reset Firefox, during reset my computer went black. Now it won't open. Help!

I downloaded a plug-in (add-on) from Facebook onto my toolbar and it made my entire computer run slowly. I disabled the add-on, removed the toolbar, and everything was still super slow. I went to troubleshooting and hit reset firefox. It was in the process of resetting and my screen went black. I thought it was just the screensaver but after pressing the space bar, screen did not return. I did a hard exit on my Mac and restarted my computer. On my desktop there is now a folder that says "Old Firefox Data". When I try to open firefox I get a message that says "your firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible. I've tried to reinstall firefox as well, only to have the same result. Help!

Do you have JSON backups that Firefox keeps in the bookmarkbackups folder?
If you use the Time Machine then you can try to restore the places.sqlite file.
*http://www.apple.com/support/timemachine/
*https://support.mozilla.org/kb/Recovering+important+data+from+an+old+profile
*http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_Firefox

What is the reason for a slow Firefox on a new powerful laptop? (with no other programs running and with no infection of viruses or adwares)

''dupe of https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/914529''
With about 1500 bookmarks and just 4 active Firefox extensions on my new laptop (Dell XPS L502, Core i7, 6GB of RAM, Win7 64-bit Ultimate) my Firefox boots up and works real slow. by slow I mean it boots up in 15 seconds; and with 3 tabs open when I switch tabs, it takes 5 seconds to switch to the new tab some of the times!). Internet Explorer and Chrome work much faster and I think this is not normal for Firefox. what can be the problem?
Can this be because of my VGA card? my system has 2 VGA's; the 2GB GT540M Nvidia graphic card which is not active by default for Firefox and an Intel on-board VGA which is working by default for normal usages like browsing.
I do not think this is a virus or anything, I have Updated malware and virus protection; and my RAM and CPU are not more than 25% loaded when running Firefox.

''dupe of https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/914529''
With about 1500 bookmarks and just 4 active Firefox extensions on my new laptop (Dell XPS L502, Core i7, 6GB of RAM, Win7 64-bit Ultimate) my Firefox boots up and works real slow. by slow I mean it boots up in 15 seconds; and with 3 tabs open when I switch tabs, it takes 5 seconds to switch to the new tab some of the times!). Internet Explorer and Chrome work much faster and I think this is not normal for Firefox. what can be the problem?
Can this be because of my VGA card? my system has 2 VGA's; the 2GB GT540M Nvidia graphic card which is not active by default for Firefox and an Intel on-board VGA which is working by default for normal usages like browsing.
I do not think this is a virus or anything, I have Updated malware and virus protection; and my RAM and CPU are not more than 25% loaded when running Firefox.

Very Slow Firefox

Hi! I have recently been experiencing problems with Firefox - new tabs take ages to appear, navigating through tabs is a drag, videos do not play properly, typing is very slow, the thinking ball appears randomly etc. By now I am quite frustrated, especially since deleting cache and cookies twice, or restarting my Mac twice did not seem to help. Performance improves for a bit, but then is back to its slow self. I ran EtreCheck (output below), but do not know how to decrease its process memory usage (if that is the problem). Finally, this has never happenned before.
Thanks a lot guys!
Hardware Information:
    MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2011)
    MacBook Pro - model: MacBookPro8,2
    1 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4 cores
    4 GB RAM
Video Information:
    AMD Radeon HD 6750M - VRAM: 512 MB
    Intel HD Graphics 3000 - VRAM: 384 MB
System Software:
    Mac OS X 10.7.5 (11G63b) - Uptime: 3 days 20:26:24
Disk Information:
    ST9500325ASG disk0 : (500.11 GB)
        disk0s1 (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
        Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 499.25 GB (248.09 GB free)
        Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
    MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8
USB Information:
    Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
    Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub
        Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
FireWire Information:
Thunderbolt Information:
    Apple, Inc. MacBook Pro
Launch Daemons:
    [System]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist 3rd-Party support link
    [System]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist 3rd-Party support link
    [System]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist 3rd-Party support link
    [System]    com.oracle.java.JavaUpdateHelper.plist 3rd-Party support link
    [System]    PPPMonitord.plist 3rd-Party support link
Launch Agents:
    [System]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist 3rd-Party support link
    [System]    Swapper.plist 3rd-Party support link
User Launch Agents:
    [not loaded]    com.apple.CSConfigDotMacCert-[...]@me.com-SharedServices.Agent.plist
    [not loaded]    com.facebook.videochat.[redacted].plist 3rd-Party support link
    [not loaded]    com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist 3rd-Party support link
User Login Items:
    gfxCardStatus
    iTunesHelper
    smcFanControl
Internet Plug-ins:
    FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 13.0.0.201 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link
    Flash Player: Version: 13.0.0.201 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link
    QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.1
    JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 51 Outdated! Update
    SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.2.0 - SDK 10.6 3rd-Party support link
Safari Extensions:
    iTube Studio: Version: 2.4.0.61
Audio Plug-ins:
    iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.1 - SDK 10.7
iTunes Plug-ins:
    Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.3 - SDK 10.7
User Internet Plug-ins:
    WebEx64: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.5 3rd-Party support link
    Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 7.1 3rd-Party support link
3rd Party Preference Panes:
    Flash Player 3rd-Party support link
    Java 3rd-Party support link
Old Applications:
    LIMBO:    Version: 1.0.0 - SDK 10.0 3rd-Party support link
    iCarambaSpanishDictionary:    Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.0 3rd-Party support link
Time Machine:
    Time Machine not configured!
Top Processes by CPU:
        20%    firefox
         9%    WindowServer
         3%    plugin-container
         2%    hidd
         2%    EtreCheck
Top Processes by Memory:
    1.20 GB    firefox
    160 MB    plugin-container
    147 MB    System Preferences
    115 MB    Finder
    98 MB    mds
Virtual Memory Information:
    259 MB    Free RAM
    1.80 GB    Active RAM
    1.03 GB    Inactive RAM
    932 MB    Wired RAM
    4.20 GB    Page-ins
    1.57 GB    Page-outs

EDIT: Oh, and you have very little free RAM and lots of Page Outs. So, in fact, first thing to do is to simply restart and only have FF open and test.
First thing to do is to start FF in Safe Mode and see how it's working. This will temporarily disable all Add-ons and use a clean Profile. If it's running OK there, then it's time to look at your Add-ons to find a culprit, or start with a new clean Profile.
Hold down the Option (alt) key when opening FF.
You should also get rid of the steam clean thing. Those cleaning programs, if that's what this thing is, are dangerous and not needed.
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Flash player terminal server Nomachine very slow firefox 3.0.3

Hello all,
I have a serious problem which i cannot reolve by myself.
When using firefox 3.0.3 and flash 9.0.124 and 10 in a
terminal server environment with bandwidth limit to 320k firefox is
slowing down because of the limit in bandwidth.
The terminal server software caps the bandwidth usage because
we run an controlled internet environment for our business safety
and there are more then 3000 users logged in so the bandwith should
be capped for performance reasons.
When i play a flash movie from youtube or visiting sites like
http://www.derbauer.de then the
terminal server software just tels the software that it cannot
process that much bandwidth so the application slows down.
Now i have off course multiple options:
1 disabling flash (not very nice to users)
2 raise the limit (less users in our environment or more
costs for extra hardware)
3 asking Nomachine to drop frames are do something fancy with
it.
4 make an option in the flash plugin to say play this video
with only 1 frame per second
The last isn't very nice for people either but flash
applications still work only viewing flash video's is not as good
as people want.
What are your thoughts on this?
With kind regards
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EDIT: Oh, and you have very little free RAM and lots of Page Outs. So, in fact, first thing to do is to simply restart and only have FF open and test.
First thing to do is to start FF in Safe Mode and see how it's working. This will temporarily disable all Add-ons and use a clean Profile. If it's running OK there, then it's time to look at your Add-ons to find a culprit, or start with a new clean Profile.
Hold down the Option (alt) key when opening FF.
You should also get rid of the steam clean thing. Those cleaning programs, if that's what this thing is, are dangerous and not needed.
Message was edited by: WZZZ

How do I fix a very slow Firefox browser often resulting in "Server Not Found"?

The browser is super slow, saying 'problem loading page' and ends up showing the 'Server not found' message. Eventually I'm able to access a website after highlighting the website address and hitting enter, maybe several times. My computer is new and have made minimal changes until this problem is resolved. Problem affects e-mail, too.

I think this is not a Firefox's bug/error.
This is I think generated from the back-end SQL syntax of the site, which means the site created this error message, not Firefox.
You may contact the site-owner and tell them about this error message, so they may know & fix this error.

Slow Firefox tried everything including reinstall. Slow in Safari too.

For 24 hours Firefox has been really slow to load. This is on my computer only - browsing on my ipad is fast and good. I tried the same on my computer with another browser and it is equally slow. I have tried all the suggestions including reinstalling Firefox but unfortunately the problem remains. Do you think it could be a hardware problem in which case any solutions? I have tried disk utility too a few times and all my other programmes are working as normal.

You can reset user set (bold) network.http.* prefs on the <b>about:config</b> page via the right-click context menu to the default value.
*http://kb.mozillazine.org/Images_or_animations_do_not_load#First_steps
*http://kb.mozillazine.org/network.http.pipelining
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I think his was not a Firefox update you downloaded, but a piece of malicious software you have inadvertently downloaded from a site called http://ffftp.co.cc/ which is impersonating Firefox.
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I have a several issues, which may be related, concerning slow Firefox startup, bookmarks, and display

Last weekend, I needed to go back to a restore point on my Windows 7 PC. Since then, I have had a number of issues. I'll outline them as best I can. I am using Firefox 23.0.1
1) When I click the tray or desktop icons, it takes between 1 and 5 minutes for Firefox to load (in fact, this is true for Thunderbird as well, but not other programs, as I can tell).
2) When Firefox starts, it is what I would call the bare bones display, not the usual for this version. In addition, my bookmarks aren't loaded. However, I can find the places.sqlite file
3) Related to 2, and I think a big part of my problem, is that there are 2 (seemingly) complete profiles, both designated as default. I have tried to rename each one as not being the default, and that hasn't worked. One is an older one, and the other from Sunday when I restored.
I have not uninstalled and reinstalled, because it seems the problem is deeper than that (as I wrote above). I have also not reset, for the same reason. I don't think it's related to add-ons and extensions, as I have disabled all and nothing seems changed (slow start, display, etc)
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Note that if there is a problem with the profiles.ini that Firefox will create a new default profile.
What matters is whether all profiles present in the Firefox\profiles folder appear in the profiles.ini file and that the currently selected c profile is marked with Default=1
If a new (xxxxxxxxx.default) profile has been created then you can restore the previous profile by editing the path in the profiles.ini file to point to your previous profile.
*http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recovering_a_missing_profile
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*https://support.mozilla.org/kb/Recovering+important+data+from+an+old+profile
*http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_Firefox

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Hi I'm running windows 7 every time i use flash based chat rooms they slow down and becomes totally unusable and youtube is very laggy too.
I'm running
Firefox version 24 (at the mo an upgrade from version 20 as the news the firefox the worse that seems to get)
flash player version 10.3.18.48 (As 11 and upwards seems to get worse too)
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Second;
Update your Shockwave Flash '''v14. http://get.adobe.com/shockwave/'''
The link for Flash Player is: '''http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/'''

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* Clear the Cache
Press the '''<Alt>''' or '''<F10>''' key to bring up the tool bar. Then;
'''Tools > Options > Advanced > Network > Cached Web Content: Clear Now'''
and
* Remove Cookies
Press the '''<Alt>''' or '''<F10>''' key to bring up the tool bar. Then '''Tools > Options > Privacy.'''
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There is a button on the right side called '''Show Cookies'''.
If there is still a problem,
'''''[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode Start Firefox in Safe Mode]''''' {web link}
While you are in safe mode;
Press the '''<Alt>''' or '''<F10>''' key to bring up the tool bar.. Then
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Poke around safe web sites and see if there is still a problem. Then restart.

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guess for vars to format in the debugger window).
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1) I've had no problems with data or code for a couple of
years now. I upgraded to v10.1 a year ago. I had to because v9 did
not work in OSX 10.4.x
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way too slow.
I have now isolated the problem; it was due to a new version
of Filemaker Pro inserted a new "special" char in some fields. My
code has been corrected now and runs fine in Dir 10.1.
In Dir 11.0 there are HUNDREDS of new errors in all our Dir
programs and projects.
And Dir 11 is Fantastically SLOW ! Slloooooooow!
Stupid Dir 11 - there's NO way I'm wasting time changing MANY
programs and projects just to do Arrogant Adobe's work for them.
Idiots. Didn't they test this stuff? How can they sell this carp?
3) I have Javascript that already handles 3 times this much
data, but the date is organized first into packets.
4) Yes, we will eventually have to rewrite all 3,000 lines of
code. And not just in this program, but in 4-5 other programs as
well.
We originally wrote these in Director due to the debugger and
the fact that I am an expert in Lingo for over ten years.
We'll stick with Dir 10.1 for a year or two, even if we have
to use an old Mac that's never updated or whatever.
Eventually, we'll have to ditch Adobe Director. Thank god we
never really buried ourselves in that other Macromedia MESS, Flash.
Macromedia & Adobe NEVER had any "authoring language"
programmers with any real "long term, coherent" design skill, they
are just hacky hacky hackers, forever adding new features with no
concept of any users but themselves.
What a mess.
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