Decklink Extreme v. Kona card

Hi all,
I'm working on a pmac G5 7,3 Mac osx 10.4.2 and running FCP 5. I edit for a motion graphics company and we do mostly SD. We worked in HDV once, but I'm sure it will come up again.
We have been using the Decklink Extreme video card, is there any reason to switch to Kona?
Has anyone tried both and can make a comparisson? Thanks in advance.
Jenna

no reason at all unless you cannot do the job you need to do with your Decklink
there are some great cards out there from both Blackmagic and AJA, but you have no reason to upgrade or switch if what you've got already does the job

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Hi,
I require some help in the following:
I recently bought myself a Blackmagic DeckLink Extreme™ with 10bit SDI/analog video and audio capture card.
Looking at the specs, http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/sd/specs/, can someone give me directions as to the best setup I can do from the following sources and what other equipment I may require to achieve it.
- mono stereo audio VHS -> has 1 video/audio in and 1 video/audio out (composite connections)
- stereo audio video camera -> has 1 8 pin S-Video out port to composite connections (Hi8 tape type)
- DVD player -> has composite 2 x 2ch stereo audio out, 1 x 5.1ch stereo audio out, 2 x video out, 1x component video out, 2 x S-video out, 2 x digital audio out; 1 x RCA/OPT
- 2 x 23" monitors connected by ADC and DVI connections to a Apple MDD G4, may relay to 60" Plasma for video monitoring from video card prior to creating DVD final piece for playback.
Basically, I wanted to have multiple source inputs and outputs, but I'm having difficulty in understanding the setup. Please refer to http://www.blackmagic-design.com/downloads/connections/decklinkdiagram.pdf page 5/6.
I purchased the following from JayCar
- 6 x PA3655 ADPT PLG RCA:
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- 1 x AC1668 SWITCH AV 3WAY:
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What other devices do I need to set up the equipment in the following way:
<pre>
Computer ------- Video In + Stereo In -----------> 3WAY SWITCH BOARD
| | ^ ^ ^
| | | | |
Bigpond |---- OUT ---> TV --------|-----|-----|
(Satellite Internet) | | | |
FOXTEL DVD VCR V/CAM
(Satellite TV)
</pre>
Currently I have not succeeded.
I have just done a simple test like so:
<pre>
Computer ------- Video In + Stereo In ---------> DVD (*)
|
Bigpond
</pre>
(*) Tested using the following:
<pre>
From Decklink -- Y IN (from deck) --> DVD Y port
-- B-Y IN (from deck) --> DVD Pb port
-- R-Y IN (from deck) --> DVD Pr port
-- SDI IN (from deck) ---> DVD Digital audio out
ASWELL AS
From Decklink -- Y OUT (from deck) --> DVD Y port
-- B-Y OUT (from deck) --> DVD Pb port
-- R-Y OUT (from deck) --> DVD Pr port
-- SDI OUT (from deck) ---> DVD Digital audio out
</pre>
Not one has seemed to work. What am I missing here?
Thanks
Tiberius
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pomme4moi wrote:
I want to buy a hard disk (not a NAS device) and plug it into my Airport Extreme in order to share data between two Mac computers, and to stream iTunes content to my Apple TV.
One option is to purchase a hard drive (say, a 2TB Hitachi G-Technology drive) and connect it to the USB port on the back of the Apple Extreme. The other option is to purchase a drive with an ethernet connection (say, a 2TB Lacie drive) and connect it to an ethernet port on the Apple Extreme.
In the second case what you'd have actually is a NAS. Apple's AirPort routers aren't known for fast file sharing. The NAS option might be faster.
Is either option better for streaming movies from the hard drive to my Apple TV?
I could be wrong, but an AppleTV may not be able to access content directly from a network drive. It may require that a Mac serve as an intermediary.

Export to Tape Grayed Out, 4.2.1, DeckLink Extreme Card

I have tried everything I can think of and read all of the related posts and I am unable to get video output when I play back the video in Premier CS4 4.2.1
with a DeckLink Extreme Card on Win XP SP2.
The deck I need to output to is a Panasonic D5 deck with SDI inputs and w/no deck control. For reasons related to forensics, I need to be able record the video at 10-bit uncompressed to preserve forensic details for future reference. Tape is much cheaper and more reliable in this case than any electronic means. A typical recording is usually 100 to 400 GB in size.
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It may not be any good using the trial version as mpeg 4 or mpeg-2/HDV codec may not be included. (although I thought they were ?)
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Note : If you trial Sony Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 11 )@ $119 AUD or less, (check for upogrades) it will have all the codecs including mpeg-2/HDV and will run on a 2GB min Duo-Core processor in 32 bit, it will run faster with a CUDA Video card (it is extremely fast with HDV, mpeg-4, H.264mov etc) . I used it occasionally as it has a very good video stabilizer at no extra cost ; CS5.5.2 needs a 64 bit computer. and you will need to buy Adobe After Effects for it's decent Stabilizer (The Warp stabilizer is now apparently included in CS6) @ about $1550 or ProDAD Mercalli V2 Pro as a plug-in for Premiere Pro @ about $250 from Germany or ProDAD 's East Coast of USA Centre. There is no need to convert the codecs in either product for ease of editing on either timeline. You do not need to buy the Production Suite to run Premiere Pro CS5.5.2 .
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I'm running Final Cut Pro 5.1.2 on MacOS 10.4.8. I've edited a 23.98FPS - DVCPro50 sequence. I can preview using the Decklink Extreme card fine. I can output via compenent out to a regular beta deck (UVW-1800) just fine, which is also the deck I use for monitoring while I am editing. I plug the SDI output from the decklink card into our digibeta deck (DVW-A500). I also send the audio over SDI. I see both the audio and video in my digibeta deck. If I just PLAY the sequence out, the digibeta sees and hears it fine. No problems.
This is my problem. Whenever I try to 'edit to tape' it usually starts out fine... then I get A LOT of digital drop outs / squares / digital distortion on the digibeta. They come up randomly and it also digitally distorts the audio when you play the tape back.
The digibeta deck is fine, as we use it to output via our Avid Media Composers every day...no dropouts or problems. It has to be with FCP / DeckLink Card when you try an 'edit to tape'. I've also tried a 'print to video' with the same results. Have you guys heard of this problem at all? Hopefully you have a fix for me...
thanks.

Awesome - the Out Ref fix did it!
When I did the edit to tape I tried both insert editing and assemble editing - both ended up the same.
On a side discussion - how do you sync the FCP machine with the black burst generator? I'm still a bit new to this - what exactly does the genlock do on the Decklink Extreme card? Is this where I sync with the black burst?
I assume the digibeta deck will also get synced with the same black burst generator. Does this go into the reference input on the back?
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Help outputting using Panasonic AJ-SD955 / Blackmagic Decklink Extreme

Hello to all,
Anyone out there able to walk me through connecting and outputting to a Panasonic AJ-SD955 and getting a reference signal? I am using a Decklink Blackmagic Extreme Card and FCP 5.0.4. I've been capturing all night, literally , from the deck, but am unable to Edit To Tape/output. I need to black and code a tape and output with picture starting at hour 1. I do not seem to be getting picture or reference to the deck.
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When I park on the timeline and push the record button on the deck and view via the deck, I have picture on my broadcast monitor.
The picture is jumping every few seconds, hence my thinking that I am not getting reference.
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(15) SDI in to SDI out on deck (top port)
If you need any other information please let me know. I am posting in several places in an effort to get an answer fast, because what would life be without deadlines? LOL!
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Peace,
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www.badamitv.com

Awesome - the Out Ref fix did it!
When I did the edit to tape I tried both insert editing and assemble editing - both ended up the same.
On a side discussion - how do you sync the FCP machine with the black burst generator? I'm still a bit new to this - what exactly does the genlock do on the Decklink Extreme card? Is this where I sync with the black burst?
I assume the digibeta deck will also get synced with the same black burst generator. Does this go into the reference input on the back?
Thanks for your help,
-Grant

UVW-1800 analog component video output low into Decklink Extreme

I have come to realize that my UVW-1800 is feeding into my Decklink Extreme card at 75% of the level it should (based on NTSC bars). I can raise the input level of the Decklink. But I wonder if the ultimate problem is increased noise using this fix. I am about to test the composite output level. I do not have a regular WFM moni so I can't see the level until after I get it in.
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Chris-
You might also look on eBay for a TBC remote. Even using the scopes in the Final Cut capture window will be OK. Analog video is subject to huge variations in levels and chroma. Getting them close to proper at the machine will give you a much more pleasing result than adjusting them after the fact in the digital domain.
The usual order of adjustment for analog machines is to first set the black level, then the white. If you adjust the white much it will affect the blacks, so go back and reset those. Which will affect the whites. so go back to THOSE. Usually about 3 tweaks on each will get both to the proper levels. Then set the chroma amount, and hue (if you are using the composite signal).
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We currently use a Canopus ADVC100 to capture video from a BetaSP (using the S-Video input). Because of that, we have to caputre using DV, which as far as I know, already compresses the data. We're now about to buy a Decklink Extreme to replace de ADVC100, and my plan is to start capturing from the BetaSP, using Uncompressed 10-bit.
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