Delta Initialization for infocube 0FIAR_C03

Hi Frends
We r uploading data to infocube 0FIAR_o03 with infosource 0fi_ar_4.and subcequently to infocube 0fiar_c03. first time we r loading data with delta initialization then delta uploading.one typical problem we r facing here that.yesterday we have changed 3 records in our quality clint and delta loaded for same.the no of records transferd yesterday was zero.we have also checked same in transaction rsa7 there was no record with our data sorce.again today we have checked with transaction rsa7. the no of records was zero. but when we have loaded with delta update mode.there are 3 records in delta extraction(yesterday change records)
pl let me know some hints on this
Awaiting ur early reply/
Thanks & Rgds
Tukuna

Tukuna,
On which filed you have created Delta.
1. If delta field is Date (Record Create Date or change date), then use Upper Limit of 1 day.
This will load Delta in BW as of yesterday. Leave Lower limit blank.
2. If delta field is Time Stamp, then use Upper Limit of equal to 1800 Seconds (30 minutes).
This will load Delta in BW as of 30 minutes old. Leave Lower limit blank.
3. If delta field is a Numeric Pointer i.e. generated record # like in GLPCA table, then use Lower Limit. Use count 10-100. Leave upper limit blank. If value 10 is used then last 10 records will be loaded again.
Hope its help.
Thanks
Ramu

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Hello Gurus,
What are the scenarios we use Early Delta Init.
Is it available for Logistics datasources.
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hi BW,
check this
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/80/1a65dce07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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curious maven wrote:
> Do we need to lock the system (or posting-free the system) to do early delta initialization or not? If yes, please explain me how that work?
No,you don't need to lock the Source System which is the advantage of Early Delta Init.
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curious maven wrote:
> 2. Someone somewhere mentioned that early delta initialization is not preferable compared to normal delta initialization, even though early delta initialization is advantageous. Why is that so?
Early delta is not supported by all the extractors. See Lo Extraction
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curious maven wrote:
Imagine, while scheduling Queued Delta Init or un-serialized V3 delta Init, if I choose certain end date and time (say, 10pm, 12-31-2007) for the records, then all the records till that point would be loaded to setup tables and all the records after that point of time will be moved to extraction queue or update tables. My question is, if this is true why would we ever need to lock the system during setup tables filling?
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>     If you say the records after that particular time and date (10pm, 12-31-2007) will not be collected in extraction queue and update tables, why don't we do the following
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>              a). say, I do full load with end date and time (10pm 12-31-2007)
>              b). Next, I do delta init with start date and time (10pm 12-31-2007) (this time I lock the postings)
>
>          If we do this way, we can actually reduce the down time of the system. Is my conclusion right?
>
>          If you say it's not practicable as some transactions' saving time differs from time stamp and some transactions' delta is even measured by pointer.......if this is the case we can use Delta offset. What do you say about this?
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curious maven wrote:
How this scenario differs to early delta initialization?
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I am working on BW 3.5.
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we're on SCM 7.0 and I'm trying to copy data from livecahce into a cube for backup. Have set up the datasource, dso and cube and this has been working. We had this process running with the data extracting to the cube all fine.
Something has happened to cause this error below and I'm not able to fix.
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Initialize your delta update again.
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Hi Venkat,
Delta request REQU_429VZAIHRVBTP2OUFU2AP8T4Q is incorrect in the monitor A repeat needs to be requested
This is bcoz, Your last delta from ODS to CUBE is not success full.
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3. If even thats not the case, try to just load till PSA and then go to your PSA and simulate the upadte. See whats the problem is...you can find more details in the details tab screen in Monitor.
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Hi All,
The below description explain about the error that I am facing. But it is in the case of an Info cube that this description is valid. Now, I am facing this error when I am updating data into DSO, Info Cube from another DSO. I am performing delta update from DSO 0fia_ds11 to 0fia_ds12, 0fia_ds13 and Info cube 0fiaa_c11. Can anyone suggest if you know about this how to resolve.
Delta update for 0FIA_DS11 is invalidated
Message no. RSBM113
Diagnosis
The delta update for the InfoCube 0FIA_DS11 is invalidated. The can be due to one of the following:
1. A request, which was already retrieved from the target system, was deleted from the InfoCube.
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Procedure
Initialize your delta update again.

Hi,
Have you checked whether the initialization was successful? Go to the info package and select Initialization options for source system and check initialization is successful.
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Hi Experts,
I have seen some threads related to Early Delta initialization in this forum. I have a question regarding this option.
To minimize the downtime/block users in the R/3 production system during set up tables fillup I would like to use the Early delta option. Please give your suggestions on the following procedure:
For Sales Orders, billing and Deliveries
1. Initialize Early delta in the BI system.
2. Go and fill setup tables
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4. Run delta job in R/3 (LBWE)
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Do we miss any documents in this process for e.g. during set up tables fill up changes to existing documents or newly created sales orders.
I feel we won't miss. All changes will be reflected in Delta queue. And even newly created orders also will be coming to delta queue.
Please let me know if I am wrong.
Thank you.

Need Clarification on this thread,
According to my understanding, during the filling of set up table if a user does any posting, then the data available in BW will be incorrect.
am i right?
In your sequence the 4th step
4. Run delta job in R/3 (LBWE), this means you are using queued or unseriallized v3 update.
Early delta iniliazation essentially of no advantage because, as conventional initialization procedures, you can readmit document
postings after successfully filling the setup tables.
can anybody clear my doubt. is it possible during setup table filling user can post a document.
I know the documents will be collected in the queue. But the data loaded to bw will be incorrect right?
Regards,
Anand.
Edited by: araj123 on May 26, 2010 11:41 AM

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