Deltas in generic extraction

how can we set delta updates in generic extraction?can any one help in this

Hi Praveen,
Please do check the link for step by step for generic extraction
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
check the following
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv235/BI_EN/html/bw.htm
business content
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/how%20to%20co-pa%20extraction%203.0x
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/co
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/5fb13cd0500255e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
(navigate with expand left nodes)
Check these links:
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/23/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-two-v3-update-when-some-problems-can-occur
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/19/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-three-the-new-update-methods
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/02/14/logistic-cockpit--when-you-need-more--first-option-enhance-it
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/04/19/logistic-cockpit-a-new-deal-overshadowed-by-the-old-fashioned-lis
<b>For Generic:</b>
>Go to Tcode : RSO2,
>There give the name of data source which you want to create like transaction data source or master data attribue or Text data source.
>enter
>again in the next screen you need to give application like SD or MM etc
>in the same screen need to select table/view or infosetquery or function module. these are different ways of creating data sources.
>Give the name for the same like if u r creating data source on table give the name of table.
>click on Generic delta which will there in application tool bar and fill the required columns in that screen like type of delta and all
>continue and save
>it will give all the fieds
>enable the check boxes based on your requirement like selection or hide or field only..
>save
Hope This Helps.
Regards,
Ravikanth

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Delta for Generic Extraction

Hi all,
Can anyone tell about delta for generic extraction i.e 3 options in detail and when do we use it.
thanks in advance,
chandra sekhar

When you want to customize existing datasources at R/3 sides then you can do that with customer exits.
Suppose if you want to add a column to the existing datasource then you will use append structures (Transaction SBIW-> Edit Data sources - Enhance Datasource) then to fill the column you will write the code in these Exits.
There are 4 types of Exits available.Function Group (XRSA)
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_001 Customer Function Call for Supplying Transaction Data
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_002 Customer Function Call for Supplying Master Data (Attributes)
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_003 Customer Function Call for Supplying Text
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_004 Customer Function Call for Supplying Hierarchies
As you are aware there 4 types since the datasources in R/3 are predefined to fill the data of BW viz, attributes,Text,Hierarchy and Transaction.
Check the below forum discussion for more information..
DataSource Enhancement
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Gopi
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Where to find deltas in generic extraction

hi experts,
could you please explain me tcodes which are used to find the delta data while we go for generic extraction. Also can anyone explain me the full process of extracting the data using
infoset query and function module.
Cheers,
Pragya.

Hi
You can define delta's in generic using " calendr day, numeric pointer, time stamp."
Generic Delta
If a field exists in the extract structure of a DataSource that contains values which increase monotonously over time, you can define delta capability for this DataSource. If such a delta-relevant field exists in the extract structure, such as a timestamp, the system determines the data volume transferred in the delta method by comparing the maximum value transferred with the last load with the amount of data that has since entered the system. Only the data that has newly arrived is transferred.
To get the delta, generic delta management translates the update mode into a selection criterion. The selection of the request is enhanced with an interval for the delta-relevant field. The lower limit of the interval is known from the previous extraction. The upper limit is taken from the current value, such as the timestamp or the time of extraction. You can use security intervals to ensure that all data is taken into consideration in the extractions. After the data request was transferred to the extractor, and the data was extracted, the extractor then informs generic delta management that the pointer can be set to the upper limit of the previously returned interval.
The delta for generic DataSources cannot be used with a BW system release prior to 3.0. In older SAP BW releases, the system does not replicate DataSources for master data and texts that were made delta-enabled using the delta for generic DataSources.
Determining the Generic Delta for a DataSource
       1.      Choose Generic Delta.
       2.      In the subsequent dialog box, specify the delta-determining field and the type for this field.
       3.      Maintain the settings for the generic delta:
                            a.      Specify a security interval.
The purpose of a security interval is to make the system take into consideration records that appear during the extraction process but which remain unextracted (since they have yet to be saved) during the next extraction.
You have the option of adding a security interval to the upper limit/lower limit of the interval.
A security interval should only be specified for the lower limit when the delta method results in a new status for changed records, in other words, when the status is overwritten in BW. In this case, duplicate data records that could arise in such a safety interval have no affect on BW.
                            b.      Choose the delta type for the data to be extracted.
The delta type is used to determine how extracted data is interpreted in BW and which data targets in which it can be posted.
With the delta type additive delta, the record to be loaded for summarizable key figures only returns the change to the key figure. The extracted data is added in BW. DataSources with this delta type can supply both ODS objects and InfoCubes with data.
With the delta type New Status for Changed Records, every record to be loaded returns the new status for all key figures and characteristics. The values are overwritten in BW. DataSources with this delta type can write the data into ODS objects and master data tables.
       4.      Save your entries.
Delta transfer is now possible for this DataSource.
After generating the DataSource, you can see this from the marking for the field Delta Update on the DataSource: Customer Version screen.
In systems from release 4.0B, you can display the current value of the delta-relevant field in the delta queue.
Example for Determining the Selection Interval for a Generic Delta
Safety Interval Upper Limit
The delta-relevant field is a timestamp.
The timestamp that was read last is 12:00:00. Delta extraction begins at 12:30:00. The safety interval for the upper limit is 120 seconds. The safety interval for the delta request is: 12:00:00 to 12:28:00. Upon completion of the extraction, the pointer is set to 12:28:00.
Safety Interval Lower Limit
The delta-relevant field is a timestamp. After images are transferred. In other words, the record is overwritten with the status after the change in BW, for example for master data. Any duplicate records that appear have no effect upon the BW system.
The last changed timestamp is 12:28:00. Delta extraction begins at 13:00. The safety interval for the lower limit is 180secs. The safety interval for the delta request is: 12:25:00 to 13:00:00. Upon completion of the extraction, the pointer is set to 13:00:00.
source: help.sap.com
Hope it helps
kalyan

Deltas for generic extraction.

Hi,
if i want use time stamp & calday for my generic extraction , i can use uppercase and lower case, wher can i give timings suppose want run deltas for 10am-10.30am.
regards
anitha

Hi,
Security interval upper limit The delta-relevant field is a timestamp.
The timestamp that was read last is 12:00:00. Delta extraction begins at 12:30:00. The security interval for the upper limit is 120 seconds. The selection interval for the delta request is: 12:00:00 to 12:28:00. When the extraction is finished, the pointer is set to 12:28:00. Security interval lower limit The delta-relevant field is a timestamp. After images are transferred. In BI the record is overwritten with the post-change status, for example, for master data. Any duplicate data records do not affect BI. The last read timestamp is 12:28:00. Delta extraction begins at 13:00. The security interval for the lower limit is 180 seconds. The selection interval for the delta request is: 12:25:00 to 13:00:00. When the extraction is finished, the pointer is set to 13:00:00.

Delta in Generic extraction

Dear All,
When we should go for which delta method and is there any specific reason for this.
What we use in real time scenerio.
Thanks,
Saveen Kumar

Please read this and let me know if still you are not clear.
It all depends upon your reporting requirements.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/e3/e60138fede083de10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/BI/Generic+Extraction
@AK
Edited by: Ashok KUMAR on Apr 1, 2010 3:39 PM

Delta for generic extraction using FM

Hi All,
I am trying to create generic datasource using function module. I need to set delta functionality for this DS but I don't know how to set delta for FM.
Do I need to give delta specific field in RSO2? My delta specific field is either AEDAT or ERDAT? Is it possible? how to write code for this?
I have around 13 tables & there is no stadard DS for these table so is it correct way to use generic using FM or is there any other way?
plz suggest & if u have any step by step document for FM plz provide.

Hi Manesh,
Yes you need to set up your delta enabled field in RSO2 when you click the delta button for the datasource.
Usually for generic datasources we use any date field to genarete deltas and looks like you have the same (AEDAT and ERDAT a re date fields).
You dont need to write any code for this. Just provide any field for executing delta and initialize. It will get you the delta based on the date.
In some scenarios, we get postings happening on an older date and hence dates cannot be used, in those scenarios we can go by numeric pointer.
Creating a datasource on 13 tables, i ma not sure how efficient it would be (mainly depends on the data volume on these tables) but yah writing a function module will be fine.
Let me know in case of any clarification
Thanks
Sachin

Generic Extraction Delta Loads

Hi Experts,
I am facing problem is I want to extract the data in Generic Extraction in View, Suppose my requirement is I want to delta loads every 1 hour per day, how can i do, Generic Extraction possible are not delta records.
Note:- LO Extraction is possible like we have update mode we can scheduled hours in everyday, But Generice Extraction possible are not.
Please provide me solutions ASAP.
Thanks in Advance......
Regards,
Bharathi.

There are various delta method
1.calday.
2.time stamp.
3.Numeric pointer.
For youe requirement Time stamp will work.
Please check weather you have any field related to time.
Thanks,
Saveen kumar

Delta in Generic data extraction

Hi all,
I have a doubt here,
What is the delta in Generic Data extraction?
What are the types?
and what are their significances?
Please give reply.
Thanks
Surya.

Hi Surya,
If a field (date, progressive document number, timestamp) exists in the extract structure of a DataSource that contains values which increase monotonously over time, you can define delta capability for this DataSource. If such a delta-relevant field exists in the extract structure, such as a timestamp, the system determines the data volume transferred in the delta method by comparing the maximum value transferred with the last load with the amount of data that has since entered the system. Only the data that has newly arrived is transferred.
To get the delta, generic delta management translates the update mode into a selection criterion. The selection of the request is enhanced with an interval for the delta-relevant field. The lower limit of the interval is known from the previous extraction. The upper limit is taken from the current value, such as the timestamp or the time of extraction. You can use security intervals to ensure that all data is taken into consideration in the extractions (The purpose of a security interval is to make the system take into consideration records that appear during the extraction process but which remain unextracted -since they have yet to be saved- during the next extraction; you have the option of adding a security interval to the upper limit/lower limit of the interval).
After the data request was transferred to the extractor, and the data was extracted, the extractor then informs generic delta management that the pointer can be set to the upper limit of the previously returned interval.
Hope now is clearer...
Bye,
Roberto

Reagrding Generic Extraction Delta

hai
Can anyone explain in detail with example or reak time scenarios about "Generic delta extraction for '0calday'" , "Generic Delta extraction for Numaric Pointer" , "Generic Delta extraction for timestamp" individually ..
Please also send some documents or forums or weblog or screen shots to [email protected] now
Thanks
Bye
mohammed

Dear shylaja,
can you please send the documents related to generic extraction to [email protected] &/ to [email protected] ?
hope you will help.
Waiting for your reply.
Regards
Vinay

Generic Extraction & delta

Hi Experts,
Can anyone tell me regarding the generic extraction and how delta happens in this case.
regards,
MGR

MGR,
Please find the below links for more better understanding about the generic delta and extraction:
Business Content and Extractors
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
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Gattu

HI could you pls explaing generic extraction delta mechanism

I know what is delta . but i couldnt differentiate when we go for time stamp and numeric pointer
i have the document for how to generic delta but inthat it is mentioned about how to use . but i want to know when shoudl i use time stamp and numeric pointer
all answers would be rewarde

Hi Dolly,
Here the changed records can be isentified by :
1. Based on the date of creation or last change ( Delta based on 0Calday)
2. Based on the record number ( Numeric Pointer )
3. Based on time of change ( Timestamp)
real time examples would be
1. Master Record creation like customer ID creation
2. Timesheets in SAP PS
3. Invoive details / Sales Order Details.
Here is a weblog from Siggi for Generic Delta Extraction with Function Module.
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
Check previous posts as well.
Generic delta
Data Warehousing
regards
@jay

In Generic Extraction how can we know whether it is Delta Enabled or not?

In Generic Extraction how can we know whether it is Delta Enabled or not?
Thanks,
Pramod.

Hi Pramod,
In R/3 use RSO2 tcode and enter your DS name and click "Change / Display" In this "Press F7 or Display Filed List" icon near to Generic Delta.In this Screen if Delta Update is Checked means it supports delta method otherwise it won't support delta method.
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-Arun.M.D

Delta loading in Generic extraction

Hi Everybody,
Can anybody explain the procedure of delta loading in generic extraction.
With Regards
Raju

Raju,
Just goto RSO2->Enter your datasource name->Click Generic Delta
Select one in Delta Specfied field.
Either Time stamp or Calender day or numeric Pointer.
If you select Numeric Pointer then enter the filed name on which you want to creat delta in Field name.
Or just browse in Field name , it will display you all valid fields for delta.
Check new status for changed records.
Now save.You know the next steps.
If you need any thing else.Buzz me.
Thanks
Ram
"BW is Everywhere"
Then make necessary setting in setting.
Safety interval upperlimit-1
Safety interval lowetlimit-1

ALE delta Generic Extraction on Z table

Hi All,
I am doing generic extraction on a Z table (Custom table).I want to run delta on this. But there is no delta specific field in this table.
Now I want to use ALE delta method for this.
I got following information from SDN
1. It is possible for only master data attribute data sources as it does not capture deletion of record.
2. It can be based on one or more delta specific field.
Follow below steps in order to create ALE delta method for generic DS
1. Go to RSO2
2. create mater data attribute DS
3. Give all details like App Comp , description & table / view name
4. Menu -> Data Source -> ALE Delta -> give table name & Change doc. object for that table. Save
5. Click on Generic delta & choose Numeric pointer under delta specific field.
Now my questions are
1. Can I use ALE delta method for an Z table? As I am not able to find any Z table in Menu -> DS -> ALE delta & Change doc. object for Z table.
2. Is it possible only for master data DS not for transaction datasource?
3. Is it possible only when generic DS is created on table not on view?
4. How to create Change doc. object for Z table (transaction SCDO)?
Any help will be appreciated
Thanks

Beside the steps done in RSO2, you have to create your own Change doc. object in t-code TCDOB and generate the update
program there. Then call this pgm when you update the source table. more details can be found in below link.
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ABAP/Change+Document

Difference between Generic extraction and Generic Delta

Hi Experts,
Pleasee give of some information below query:
1) Difference between Generic extraction and Generic Delta.
2) How to achieve Generic delta.
3) When we go for Generic delta instead of generic extraction.
Advance ThankU. Points vl be assigned.
Thanks,
Ragu.R

Hi,
Generic delta is the delta load done using Generic DS.
Generic extraction
Usage:
1. When the standard extractors are not supporting the extraction what you need. If SAP does not have a standard extractor for your need to get data from R3, you would have to go for generic extractor.
2. If you create a custom object say by combining certain base tables in R3 say custom tables ZTAB1 and ZTAB2. These two tables are not SAP provided tables and there will not be any standard extractors. So cases like this you will have to go for generic extractors.
How:
You have to use RSO2 transaction and you can also set delta based on, one of the three characteristics such as timestamp, calday or pointer (a sequence no).
once you create it and activate it. The extractor will be available in ROOSOURCE - (table in R3 where all the data sources are available).
Refer:
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/3f/548c9ec754ee4d90188a4f108e0121/content.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
Generic Extraction via Function Module
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
thanks,
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