Deltas for generic extraction.

Hi,
if i want use time stamp & calday for my generic extraction , i can use uppercase and lower case, wher can i give timings suppose want run deltas for 10am-10.30am.
regards
anitha

Hi,
Security interval upper limit The delta-relevant field is a timestamp.
The timestamp that was read last is 12:00:00. Delta extraction begins at 12:30:00. The security interval for the upper limit is 120 seconds. The selection interval for the delta request is: 12:00:00 to 12:28:00. When the extraction is finished, the pointer is set to 12:28:00. Security interval lower limit The delta-relevant field is a timestamp. After images are transferred. In BI the record is overwritten with the post-change status, for example, for master data. Any duplicate data records do not affect BI. The last read timestamp is 12:28:00. Delta extraction begins at 13:00. The security interval for the lower limit is 180 seconds. The selection interval for the delta request is: 12:25:00 to 13:00:00. When the extraction is finished, the pointer is set to 13:00:00.

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Delta for Generic Extraction

Hi all,
Can anyone tell about delta for generic extraction i.e 3 options in detail and when do we use it.
thanks in advance,
chandra sekhar

When you want to customize existing datasources at R/3 sides then you can do that with customer exits.
Suppose if you want to add a column to the existing datasource then you will use append structures (Transaction SBIW-> Edit Data sources - Enhance Datasource) then to fill the column you will write the code in these Exits.
There are 4 types of Exits available.Function Group (XRSA)
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_001 Customer Function Call for Supplying Transaction Data
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_002 Customer Function Call for Supplying Master Data (Attributes)
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_003 Customer Function Call for Supplying Text
EXIT_SAPLRSAP_004 Customer Function Call for Supplying Hierarchies
As you are aware there 4 types since the datasources in R/3 are predefined to fill the data of BW viz, attributes,Text,Hierarchy and Transaction.
Check the below forum discussion for more information..
DataSource Enhancement
Regs
Gopi
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Delta for generic extraction using FM

Hi All,
I am trying to create generic datasource using function module. I need to set delta functionality for this DS but I don't know how to set delta for FM.
Do I need to give delta specific field in RSO2? My delta specific field is either AEDAT or ERDAT? Is it possible? how to write code for this?
I have around 13 tables & there is no stadard DS for these table so is it correct way to use generic using FM or is there any other way?
plz suggest & if u have any step by step document for FM plz provide.

Hi Manesh,
Yes you need to set up your delta enabled field in RSO2 when you click the delta button for the datasource.
Usually for generic datasources we use any date field to genarete deltas and looks like you have the same (AEDAT and ERDAT a re date fields).
You dont need to write any code for this. Just provide any field for executing delta and initialize. It will get you the delta based on the date.
In some scenarios, we get postings happening on an older date and hence dates cannot be used, in those scenarios we can go by numeric pointer.
Creating a datasource on 13 tables, i ma not sure how efficient it would be (mainly depends on the data volume on these tables) but yah writing a function module will be fine.
Let me know in case of any clarification
Thanks
Sachin

Deltas in generic extraction

how can we set delta updates in generic extraction?can any one help in this

Hi Praveen,
Please do check the link for step by step for generic extraction
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
check the following
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv235/BI_EN/html/bw.htm
business content
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/how%20to%20co-pa%20extraction%203.0x
https://websmp203.sap-ag.de/co
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/5fb13cd0500255e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
(navigate with expand left nodes)
Check these links:
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/23/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-two-v3-update-when-some-problems-can-occur
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/19/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-three-the-new-update-methods
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/02/14/logistic-cockpit--when-you-need-more--first-option-enhance-it
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/04/19/logistic-cockpit-a-new-deal-overshadowed-by-the-old-fashioned-lis
For Generic:
>Go to Tcode : RSO2,
>There give the name of data source which you want to create like transaction data source or master data attribue or Text data source.
>enter
>again in the next screen you need to give application like SD or MM etc
>in the same screen need to select table/view or infosetquery or function module. these are different ways of creating data sources.
>Give the name for the same like if u r creating data source on table give the name of table.
>click on Generic delta which will there in application tool bar and fill the required columns in that screen like type of delta and all
>continue and save
>it will give all the fieds
>enable the check boxes based on your requirement like selection or hide or field only..
>save
Hope This Helps.
Regards,
Ravikanth

Where to find deltas in generic extraction

hi experts,
could you please explain me tcodes which are used to find the delta data while we go for generic extraction. Also can anyone explain me the full process of extracting the data using
infoset query and function module.
Cheers,
Pragya.

Hi
You can define delta's in generic using " calendr day, numeric pointer, time stamp."
Generic Delta
If a field exists in the extract structure of a DataSource that contains values which increase monotonously over time, you can define delta capability for this DataSource. If such a delta-relevant field exists in the extract structure, such as a timestamp, the system determines the data volume transferred in the delta method by comparing the maximum value transferred with the last load with the amount of data that has since entered the system. Only the data that has newly arrived is transferred.
To get the delta, generic delta management translates the update mode into a selection criterion. The selection of the request is enhanced with an interval for the delta-relevant field. The lower limit of the interval is known from the previous extraction. The upper limit is taken from the current value, such as the timestamp or the time of extraction. You can use security intervals to ensure that all data is taken into consideration in the extractions. After the data request was transferred to the extractor, and the data was extracted, the extractor then informs generic delta management that the pointer can be set to the upper limit of the previously returned interval.
The delta for generic DataSources cannot be used with a BW system release prior to 3.0. In older SAP BW releases, the system does not replicate DataSources for master data and texts that were made delta-enabled using the delta for generic DataSources.
Determining the Generic Delta for a DataSource
       1.      Choose Generic Delta.
       2.      In the subsequent dialog box, specify the delta-determining field and the type for this field.
       3.      Maintain the settings for the generic delta:
                            a.      Specify a security interval.
The purpose of a security interval is to make the system take into consideration records that appear during the extraction process but which remain unextracted (since they have yet to be saved) during the next extraction.
You have the option of adding a security interval to the upper limit/lower limit of the interval.
A security interval should only be specified for the lower limit when the delta method results in a new status for changed records, in other words, when the status is overwritten in BW. In this case, duplicate data records that could arise in such a safety interval have no affect on BW.
                            b.      Choose the delta type for the data to be extracted.
The delta type is used to determine how extracted data is interpreted in BW and which data targets in which it can be posted.
With the delta type additive delta, the record to be loaded for summarizable key figures only returns the change to the key figure. The extracted data is added in BW. DataSources with this delta type can supply both ODS objects and InfoCubes with data.
With the delta type New Status for Changed Records, every record to be loaded returns the new status for all key figures and characteristics. The values are overwritten in BW. DataSources with this delta type can write the data into ODS objects and master data tables.
       4.      Save your entries.
Delta transfer is now possible for this DataSource.
After generating the DataSource, you can see this from the marking for the field Delta Update on the DataSource: Customer Version screen.
In systems from release 4.0B, you can display the current value of the delta-relevant field in the delta queue.
Example for Determining the Selection Interval for a Generic Delta
Safety Interval Upper Limit
The delta-relevant field is a timestamp.
The timestamp that was read last is 12:00:00. Delta extraction begins at 12:30:00. The safety interval for the upper limit is 120 seconds. The safety interval for the delta request is: 12:00:00 to 12:28:00. Upon completion of the extraction, the pointer is set to 12:28:00.
Safety Interval Lower Limit
The delta-relevant field is a timestamp. After images are transferred. In other words, the record is overwritten with the status after the change in BW, for example for master data. Any duplicate records that appear have no effect upon the BW system.
The last changed timestamp is 12:28:00. Delta extraction begins at 13:00. The safety interval for the lower limit is 180secs. The safety interval for the delta request is: 12:25:00 to 13:00:00. Upon completion of the extraction, the pointer is set to 13:00:00.
source: help.sap.com
Hope it helps
kalyan

When to go for generic extraction using view and infoset query?

Hi,
Can anyone clarify me when we should go for generic extraction using view and when we should go for generic extraction using infoset query....
Also what is the difference between view and infoset?
I tried but could not find out....
Regards,
Kalyani.

Hi Kalyani,
We normally go for View or infoset when the data to be fetched in BW is distributed in different tables in SAP R/3.
Had the data been available in one table we can easily build our datasource on that table but if there are more tables then its not possible to do it without Views or Infosets. You can use Function Modules to build your datasource in case it involves complex logic to figure out the data from various tables.
Depending upon the table relationships we create view and include various fields from these tables in that view. Same is with the Infosets, you can have more flexible options like Outer Join, left outer Join etc.
Regards,
Pratap Sone

Bussiness Scenario for GENERIC EXTRACTION

Hi friends,
 can any one explain me... in what situation we go for Generic Extractions..
The normal reason is When the Bussiness Content Datasource is not matching with our requirement.. we go for Generic extraction..
 I told like this only... but they are not satisfied with my answer.. and they asked .. tell me the bussiness scenario( in what situation u done generic extraction)
so, friends... could any one plz explain me any scenario... which you done for generic extraction...
 i will appriciate by giving points to the appropriate answers..
Thanks
babu

Hi,
These 2 below links may be helpful,
GENERIC DATA EXTRACTION USING FUNCTION MODULE
Difference between Generic Extraction and Enhancement of existing Extractor
1)Go to RSA6 and find the data source you need to enhance.--> Display
2)Double click on the Extract structure.
3)Now click on the append structure button to add the required field on to the existing structure.
4) add your required fields with ZZ appended to your field.
5) Save & Activate the append structure. Then go back and make sure you activate the extract structure also.
6) Now again go back to RSA6 and select your Data Source. But this time go to change Data Source to remove the hide option to the enhanced fields. By default theyll be in hide mode. If you dont remove the hide field then this field will not be seen in BW side.
7) Now go to SE38 to write the logic to populate the data into the enhanced field. Program name to write the logic is ZXRSAU01.
8) Check + Save + Activate.
9) Check in RSA3 if data is populated as per your requirement.
10) Replicate your Data Source.
11) Now go to Data Source/ Trans. Structure screen. Now you can see the enhanced field on the right hand side.Enhancements:
Enhancements:BW Side:
Go to CMOD.
1. To Save give Description  createcreate new projectgive the project name
2. Select the radio button Enhancement Assignment and give the Enhancement name you want and press Enter.
3. If the Enhancement is already assigned to some other project it will display the same message saying it is already assigned it some other project. Click on
4. If the Enhancement is not assigned to any project save.
5. Give RSR00001 (For Variable Exits)
6. Activate the Project.
7. and click on the components button.Now go to Display
8. Now Double click on EXIT_SAPLRRS0_001. In that you can see an include ZXRSRU01.
9. Double click on that include, it will say program name ZX are reserved for includes of exit Functions groups.
10. Just Press Enter.
11. Itll Pop-Up a window Create Object.saying Include ZX. Does not exits
12. That is where you have to write the code for the variable exits. BW: Virtual
13. RSR00002 Chars and Key Figures. BW: Moving Characteristics.
14. RSR00003
Thanks,
Aby Jacob

When we go for Views and Function Modules for Generic Extraction

Hi Experts,
Can you please explain when we go for extracting the data using Views and when we got using Function Modules using Generic Extraction from R/3 system to BW with examples. And also can you explain when we go for delta for the above both scenarios.
Thanks for you help in advance
Rohith

Hi,
Scenario for Extarction using FM
Imagine the scenario where you need to extract data from
tables having no common field between them and thereby preventing you from creating a view on top of those tables..
Or simply consider tables that are highly unrelatd in terms of fields, but you have a requiremnt to extract data from them.
Also Refer.
create generic extractor based on 2 tables
Generic Extraction via Function Module
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
Steps.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a0f46157-e1c4-2910-27aa-e3f4a9c8df33
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/86/1c8c3e94243446e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Scenario for Extraction using View
If there are more number of tables and data in those tables can be represented using joins then we can use this type of extraction
For more info Refer these links
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/cf/21ecf9446011d189700000e8322d00/frameset.htm
Difference between "Help View" and "Search Help"
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/cf/21ed06446011d189700000e8322d00/frameset.htm
for more detailed info look on:
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/what-is-the-different-types-and-usage-of-views.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/home/abap+dictionary&
For GEneric Delta refer these links
[generic with delta;
[https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=11388803&messageID=5164737]

Scenarios for Generic extraction

Hello experts ,
Please give me some scenarios where we will go for the extraction using
function module,
infoset query,
View.
Thanks in advance,
pragya.

Hi Pragya,
Generic extractors are of 3 types:
1. Based on table/view
2. Based on Infoset Query
3. Based on Function module
In some cases Business Content will not give your required data sources , In such scenarios you need to develop your own data sources ( Views / Function modules ) , Then you can bring that data source to BW and use that .
if you can't find the suitable business content data source then you have to create
your own data source ( Generic )
or enhance the given data source.
Need for customized generic extractor
Business Content may not have a suitable
Data Source for your application.
Business Content may require additional enhancements that need data that is not supplied by SAP BW.
The application may not have its own generic data extraction method.
We have used our own custom programs to populate tables in SAP system.
Please see link below
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/3f/548c9ec754ee4d90188a4f108e0121/frameset.htm
Good weblogs
/people/siegfried.szameitat/blog/2005/09/29/generic-extraction-via-function-module
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/04/19/logistic-cockpit-a-new-deal-overshadowed-by-the-old-fashioned-lis
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/16/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-one-v3-update-the-145serializer146
/people/sap.user72/blog/2004/12/23/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-two-v3-update-when-some-problems-can-occur
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/19/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-three-the-new-update-methods
Regards, ABY

Delta in Generic extraction

Dear All,
When we should go for which delta method and is there any specific reason for this.
What we use in real time scenerio.
Thanks,
Saveen Kumar

Please read this and let me know if still you are not clear.
It all depends upon your reporting requirements.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/e3/e60138fede083de10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/BI/Generic+Extraction
@AK
Edited by: Ashok KUMAR on Apr 1, 2010 3:39 PM

How to set Delta for COPA Extraction

Hi all,
I want to do generic data source using Function Module for COPA can any one tell how to set the delta what fields i have to fill.
thanks
kavitha

Hi kavitha,
The easiest way to work out with Function Module is to copy the standard one and modify according to your reqirement.
The standard one is RSAX_BIW_GET_DATA_SIMPLE .
Dont forget to copy the Function grp RSAX into a custom defined Grp and Modify the Ranges options as per ur req.
and in Function module, in Sourcecode and Tables, Do modify the E_T_data with ur Generic datasource ,make sure u also modify the select statements within the sourcecode. If you have an idea on ABAP its really easy to work out.
And regarding the creation of Datasource.
this blog may help for the same.
Generic Extraction via Function Module
Safety Interval Upper Limit of Delta Selection
This field is used by DataSources that determine their delta generically using a repetitively-increasing field in the extract structure.
The field contains the discrepancy between the current maximum when the delta or delta init extraction took place and the data that has actually been read.
Leaving the value blank increases the risk that the system could not extract records arising during extraction.
Example: A time stamp is used to determine the delta. The time stamp that was last read is 12:00:00. The next delta extraction begins at 12:30:00. In this case, the selection interval is 12:00:00 to 12:30:00. At the end of extraction, the pointer is set to 12:30:00.
A record - for example, a document- is created at 12:25 but not saved until 12:35. It is not contained in the extracted data but, because of its time stamp, is not extracted the next time either.
For this reason, the safety margin between read and transferred data must always be larger than the maximum length of time that it takes to create a record for this DataSource (with a time stamp delta), or it must display an interval that is sufficiently large (for determining delta using a serial number).
Safety Interval Lower Limit
This field contains the value taken from the highest value of the previous delta extraction to determine the lowest value of the time stamp for the next delta extraction.
For example: A time stamp is used to determine a delta. The extracted data is master data: The system only transfers after-images that overwrite the status in the BW. Therefore, a record can be extracted into the BW for such data without any problems.
Taking this into account, the current time stamp can always be used as the upper limit when extracting: The lower limit of the next extraction is not seamlessly joined to the upper limit of the last extraction. Instead, its value is the same as this upper limit minus a safety margin. This safety margin needs to be big enough to contain all values in the extraction which already had a time stamp when the last extraction was carried out but which were not read. Not surprisingly, records can be transferred twice. However, for the reasons above, this is unavoidable.
these are used to determining the delta in a datasource:
1. Time stamp - The field is a DEC15 field which always contains the time stamp of the last change to a record in the local time format.
2. Calendar day - The field is a DATS8 field which always contains the day of the last change.
3. Numerical pointer - The field contains another numerical pointer that appears with each new record .
Regards,
Anish

Any docs regarding Table/View,Function Module for Generic Extraction

Hello All
I need to do Generic Extraction,for that if anyone has docs., I need docs on how to create table,view,Function module and infoset query ,on that pl forward to my id
[email protected]
Many Thanks
balaji

hi Amit
Thanks for your docs,but this docs i have already,do u have any thing different one,if so please forward?
Facing a Problem
Iam trying to create view(database view)for vbak and vbap and given in Tables in Table/Join Conditions tab and clicked in Relationship and the relantionship has been generated automatically,now when i tried to activate this view its saying like "No tables and/or fields are defined for view xxxxx(xxxx-> name of a view)
what will be the problem?pl let me know how to create a view?
And also I need to know the diffference between database view,Manintenance view,Projection view and help view?
Pl let me know on this?
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Delta for generic master data extractor

Hello,
Is it not possible to load deltas for a generic master data extractor?
I have created a generic extractor on R/3 table MEAN (EAN number assigned to material). I have also performed the init run which worked fine, but no deltas are being loaded.
Why is this?
Best regards,
Fredrik

hi,
its possible
how to generic delta
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
SAFETY DELTA
check these links
oss note 368739
Symptom
For the setup of summarization levels and summarization data in the Profitability Analysis a 'Safety delta' of half an hour is used. This means, the system only includes records which exist half hour already. You want to reduce this delta in order to get more current data in reporting.
Additional key words
Summarization levels, summarization data, safety delta, time stamp
Cause and prerequisites
The reason for the duration of these safety deltas are possible differences in the clocks on different application servers. If the delta is selected too short, when updating the summarization levels/data, records may not be taken into account. In particular the Account-based Profitability Analysis depends on the sufficient length of the delta, so that update processes which take longer do not cause inconsistencies. For the Costing-based Profitability Analysis a lock is set. If not active update processes exist, it fails and the update terminates.
Solution
The attached source code correction is not part of the standard system. With this change the safety delta is set from 30 to 5 minutes. You should only implement this, if exclusively the Costing-based Profitability Analysis is active in your system. If you also use Account-based Profitability Analysis we do not recommend the change for the above-mentioned reasons.
Generic delta safty intervals
oss note 392876
safety interval
0FI_GL_4 Safety Delta
Genric delta fro table
check this thread which already discussed about this topic
Generic Extractor - Delta
Shreya

How to maitain Deltas for generic master data source

Hi Friends,
I created a view using MARA and MARC table. This view fields maitained by attributes of ZWMAT_PLT Characteristic.
Now i faced the problem with deltas.
How i need to maitain delta for above view.
please give me solution for above problem.
Thanks & Regards,
Guna.

Hi,
If you have timestamp field in the view it is better use the Timestamp for the generic delta. Else try to include a timestamp field in the view.
Also check this forum.
How to set the delta for existing generic data source
Delta Updating a Master Data Infoobject
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/84bf4d68-0601-0010-13b5-b062adbb3e33
Assign points if this is helpful
Rgs,
I.R.K

How to set Generic Delta for Generic Datasource

Hi to all,
please can any one explain me the generic Delta option for Generic datasource
after creating generic datasource, i need to set the generic delta .
can any one explain me all generic delta option in simple language with example.
Field Nm
Time samp
calend. Day
Numeric Pointer
Safety Interval Upper Limit
Safety Interval Lower Limit
New status for changed Records
Additive Delta
i shall be thankful to you for this.
Regards
Pavneet Rana

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