Deploy rtexe and bitfiles to cRIO without LabVIEW Development Environment

All,
How can I deploy code to a cRIO in the field without the LabVIEW development environment? I think I can make this work via FTP for updates but for fresh installs as I'm at a loss for what files are required. There seems to be a bunch of magic going on here.
Regards,
Ken

Note, a little (good natured)sarcasm here.
No problem. Just connect it to your development system. What, you sent the application to the field? Why would you do that? Oh well, another way is to get your backup controller of the same type, hook it to your development system and load it though max. Then load the application. Then download and use the replication tools to save an image of the RT controller. Note, you have to have the same one as you sent out (you kept a spare of the RT controller, right?). Then send the files and the replication program to the field with instructions on how to use it. If you don't have a spare of the exact type, just have them send it back to you to reprogram or take a road trip, with your laptop with your development system on it.
Needs a little work, don't you think. Hopefully, it will improve. The thing about it is, the hardware is top notch. Just need a little work on distributing it. See this idea on the exchange.
http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Real-Time-Idea-Exchange/Complete-installer-for-Labview-RT-Targets/id...
They need a way to, without your development system:
1. Create an installer that will load all the drivers, os, etc that your development system would, with options for different controllers.
2. Installer for the application.

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