Depot pricing

Is there any need to create new G/L codes and account keys in the pricing procedure of depot sales other than the existing factory pticing procedure or not..
regards,
CS

Hi,
This you need to check with your client because it depends on the requirement.
Here in depot sales excise figures will not be calculated using the tax codes or excise rates maintained
in J1ID excise rates, The excise amount paid to the vendor will be passed on to your customer with respect to the quantity ordered by the customer. So here what ever the excise you will collect from your
customer should goto revenue a/c inspite of your excise a/c since it is already paid to vendor.
Regards,
Swamy H P

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Depot pricing procedure issue

We are trying to configure Depot Sales. I have done stock transfer from manufacturing plant to Depot. GR was done based on replenishment delivery and excise document entry . now when i am doing sales from depot the excise amount that i captured at plant through j1iin has to be passed to depot. We have set 356 routine and EXD accounting key in depot pricing procedure ZJDEPO for JEX2, JEEC & JA1Y condition type.
After release to accounting of billing document generated in depot, the excise entries calculated on base price at depot is getting posted. Our requirement is to pass the same excise duty amount that we paid while removing the material from factory to be passed to the customer.
Correct me if there is any mistake in my pricing procedure. Please suggest how i can pass the same amount to the customers.

i have already done all settings for depot & the excise values are flowing from plant to depot using alternate calculation type 356. but the values captured in JMOD , JECS & JA1X financial condition records gets transferred to depot. the base price in stock transfer pricing procedure is 40000 and the base price set at depot is 36000.
so the excise calculated at plant is 4000, 40, 80. in depot after doing J1IJ the same values are getting passed for jex2, jeec & ja1y. but for jmod, jecs & ja1x the values are 3600, 36, 72 which is posted in accounts after release to accounts.so please suggest how to pass the correct excise amount to accounting.

Excise base value for CVD Calculation in Import depot pricing?

Hi,
In case of Import procedure the condition base value which is copying to excise should be sum of assessable value + Basic customs but it is not happening..
kindly suggest me on the same..
regards,

Hi
for custome invoice valu will be
1) IN CVD
2) ECESS on CVD (%)
3) SHECESS on CVD (%)
4) additinal
5) IN Basic customs
6)Custom's Edu Cess
7)Sec ECESS ON Customs
out of these
1 t0 4 will be in excise invoice
1)chek in po tax code 0
2)chek following setting in spro-
Logistic general-tax on goods movement-account determination-specifiy exciseaccounts per trasnction and psecify excise gruopper transction chek IP here for you Grop setting
3) chek condiiton type with accuralse and account key is there or not
GRPO IP CR CLEAR
GRPO IP DR MSUSP
GRPO IP DR ONHOLD
GRPO IP DR PLAAED
GRPO IP DR PLAAT1
GRPO IP DR PLABED
GRPO IP DR PLACESS
GRPO IP DR PLAECS
GRPO IP DR RG23AED
GRPO IP DR RG23AT1
GRPO IP DR RG23BED
GRPO IP DR RG23ECS
GRPO IP DR RG23SED
EWPO IP CR CLEAR
EWPO IP DR PLAECS
EWPO IP DR RG23AED
EWPO IP DR RG23AT1
EWPO IP DR RG23BED
EWPO IP DR RG23ECS
EWPO IP DR RG23SED
Regards
Kailas ugale

Billing problem in depot sales

Hi,
We was into the depot sales project.We have done till excise duty.
That means,first we are created a sales order and then outbound delivery for that.So based on the outbound delivery number normally we do billing.
But here after outbound delivery we are in to assigning excise duty tothe delivery.In j1ij we have given and done all the things its working fine by FIFO method.It will first show the first procurement.We will select and this process got over.RG23D table is filled up with the values.
But after this i gone for doing billing in VF01.But when i give the delivery number,it shows the condition typea and values but it didnt show any thing about excise duty which we are giving,So can anyone plz help me in this issue.
Whether any configuration we want to do,or any thing we want to do internally.

Hello Mahesh,
Please note the depot invoice is created after creating depot excise invoice in J1IJ. System will copy
the excise values to invoice (billing) based on the routine 356 assigned to all your excise condition types.
Also please note that Depot pricing procedure should not be classified under classify condition under
CIN customizing.
Depot sale process:
Sales Order
Delivery
Depot Excise Invoice
Billing.
Best Regards
Muralidhar

Depot excise capture for two different excise values

Hello Team
When doing STO from factory to Depot for product A, qty of 10 pcs, the excise duty levied is Rs. 100. Later, due to financial year and excise structure change, for another STO to Depot for product A, qty of another 10 pcs, the excise duty levied is Rs.150. As a process I will capture 20 pcs of product A at the depot, at different time intervals (10 pcs @100 Rs. and later additional 10 pcs @150 Rs).
Now if I want to dispatch from depot 15 pcs of Product A then what excise rate will the system determine in Depot invoice? I am creating a depot delivery for qty= 15 pcs.
Sorry I am unable to run this scenario, in the system now, to check J1IJ behaviour. I have to present my client the details, as he is having a depot sales scenario as part of his business
I will appreciate if you can provide a relevant answer to my query
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Hi Shane,
In depot system will not fetch any rate it will pass on the value of excise duties from J1IJ to VF01 based on the formula 356 that you assign to excise duty condition types in the depot pricing procedure.
Normally we will capture the values into RG23D register at depot while incoming goods receipt through J1IG & we will pass on the same while selling through J1IJ.
If there is any change in price on the same excise invoice which you have already captured in the system then you will follow the process of "A" certificate.
regards,
S.Himavanth.

Apportion Excise value in Return Sales order

Hi,
With reference to Depot scenario, when there is a return sales order created reference to Customer Invoice, the Excise values are not getting apportioned with reference to manual change in the quantity.
As per our customized routine the excise values are copied from Excise invoice to the customer invoice, instead of condition record. And as per the copy control settings the excise values are directly copied from Customer invoice to Return sales order. But when the quantity is changed in the return sales order only the Base price is changed, but the excise invoice (condition type - JEXP) is not changed as per the changed quantity.
If i do the update price in return sales order(order type - ZRC) the excise value is picked from condition order, but as per requirement of the business they will not do the update price, only the quantity in the return sales order is changed by the user.
Can you please let us now the solution how to apportion the excise value based on changed quantity.
Regards,
Jagadish

but the excise invoice (condition type - JEXP) is not
changed as per the changed quantity.
Assuming that the Calculation Type of your above condition type is percentage, I have a feeling that unless you wrongly assigned the From-To step number in your pricing procedure, definitely, based on the quantity, your price will vary and based on this price, your ED should also get changed. So check your return depot pricing procedure once again.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

Rajesh/Sadhu= Pricing Proc. Difference between Factory and Depot Sales ?

Hi,
What is the diff. between the Pricing Proc of Factory and Depot Sales ?
CIN Version.
Regrds,
Binayak
Message was edited by:
Binayak Ghosh

Hi,
We was into the depot sales project.We have done till excise duty.
That means,first we are created a sales order and then outbound delivery for that.So based on the outbound delivery number normally we do billing.
But here after outbound delivery we are in to assigning excise duty tothe delivery.In j1ij we have given and done all the things its working fine by FIFO method.It will first show the first procurement.We will select and this process got over.RG23D table is filled up with the values.
But after this i gone for doing billing in VF01.But when i give the delivery number,it shows the condition typea and values but it didnt show any thing about excise duty which we are giving,So can anyone plz help me in this issue.
Whether any configuration we want to do,or any thing we want to do internally.
Routine 356, which transfer this from j1ij to billing is not happening, Since it is direct procurement of traded items , excise duties need to be passed on to customer directly, Here I hope there is no point of calcualting the excise duty, Since the excise duty would have inventorised.
UTXJ condition record are maintained.

Pricing procedure for Depot Sales(CIN Version)

HI,
Can anyone explain me TAXINJ and
The Pricing procedure for Depot Sales(CIN Version)
alongwith the Condition Types like JMOD,JECS,JECX etc.
Points will be given
Regrds,
Binayak

Hi Binayak.
JMOD is a FI Tax condition which gets the Basic Excise duty from calculation formula 352. JEX2 is a copy of JMOD and is a Sales pricing condition. The value of JEX2 gets posted for Excise account key. This ensures that the cost accounting of excise value paid is done correctly. In cases where commercial invoice is created after utilization the condition value formula 353 ensures that the actual MODVAT utilized is accounted as excise.
Similarly JAED is a FI Tax condition which gets the Additional Excise duty from calculation formula 352. JEXA is a copy of JAED and is a Sales pricing condition. The accounting is done for the value of JEXA.
JSED is a FI Tax condition which gets the Special Excise duty from calculation formula 352. JEXS is a copy of JSED and is a Sales pricing condition. The accounting is done for the value of JEXS.
JCES is a FI Tax condition which gets the CESS from calculation formula 352. JCED is a copy of JCES and is a Sales pricing condition. The accounting is done for the value of JCED.
So, Conclusion :---->
JMOD -- > Basic Excise duty condition for FI side.
corresponding to it,
JEX2 is the Basic Excise duty condition for SD side.
That's why
account key to JMOD is linkes in TAXINJ.
and
account key to JEX2 is linkes in JDEPOT.
Hope this certainly helps you.
Please reward points if found useful to you.
Let me know if you have any other doubt.
Regards,
Gaurav Raghav.

Depot Sales Pricing

HI Experts,
We configured Depot sales, while doing pricing Excise duty, Education Cess and Higher Education is not showing in Conditions.
we got one solution through which we are not satisfied.Tthe solotion is that we went to condition tab and clicked on update button and selected " C ".
Our requirement is that we need excise duty, Education Cess and Higher Education cess should be shown in the condition tab as soon as we enter the plant into the shipping tab./
Please give me proper solution
Shibu

Hi Shibu,
Check the condition type settings :
Cond. class A Discount or surcharge
Calculat.type A Percentage .
also check that amount/percentage field is check in v/06. Once this setting is maintained chcek you have the condition records maintained for the required combination. and the final check is in pricing procedure this condition type are not marked as maintained manually.
If these settings are maintained the system will determine the condition types automatically in the order .
Hope this will help you !!!
Regards,
Krishna O

Depot sales pricing error

hi all,
we do the depot sales, while in particular oder, i did the depot sale for the trading material,
in that sales order , in the condition tab, the value of the VBRS cost , system not taken the updated cost .it take the old cost
we maintain the V for teh material
we want to know that from where the system pick the VBRS cost and how to control the system to pick the updated cost for the material. we have to any config for that.

Hi Shibu,
Check the condition type settings :
Cond. class A Discount or surcharge
Calculat.type A Percentage .
also check that amount/percentage field is check in v/06. Once this setting is maintained chcek you have the condition records maintained for the required combination. and the final check is in pricing procedure this condition type are not marked as maintained manually.
If these settings are maintained the system will determine the condition types automatically in the order .
Hope this will help you !!!
Regards,
Krishna O

Pricing procedure for Depot Sales

Hi SAP Expert,
Is Tax procedure TAXINN must use Pricing Procedure JINDEP for DEpot Sales ?
If we use JINDEP, how do we configure for the excise duty value flow from J1iJ to VF01 ?

Hi SAP Experts,
Any comment or advice on the subjected post ??

Sd depot sales pricing from me21n to vfo1

i want automatic pricing at vf01 through me21n.
pricing should flow from me21n to vf01

Hello Prasanna,
In Stock Transfer Cases there is no Sales document in SD, but still the basic Sales Order Functions like Item Category Determination, etc happens.
This is due to Default Order Type assigned to Delivery Type (NL or NLCC). Thus system uses settings in Sales Doucment Type DL to determine basic SD Functions.
Now coming to your question, in the copy control records Price Source is not required to maintain becase you are purely using SD Pricing Procedure itself.
In Billing Type, the Pricing Procedure will be simply SD Pricing Proceure with normal Price Detemination settings. But when it comes to maintaining Condition Records (in VK11) you will not be able to do so. This is because you have set Reference Condition (& aplication) in Condition Type (V/06).
The use of this setting is that you cannot maintian Condition Records in Sales Module, but System will access the Condition Record of the Referred Condition Type & Application (M - Purchasing). Thus if the Price components (Basic Price + Tax + etc) are exactly same in SD & MM Pricing, then values can be copied from MM Pricing. Means say for Basic Price (ZR00) you have set Reference Condition Type as ZN00 which is defined in MM Schema (Pricing Procedure), then system will search value for ZR00 in Condition Records of ZN00.
We are using this in Sales Order & Shipment Document. We have a requirement that the Freight paid to Shipment Vendor should be eaxtly same as one charged to Customer in Sales Order / Invoice. Thus Reference Condition is a perfect solution here without any Z-Development.
Hope I have managed to clarify your doubt to some extent.
Thanks,
Edited by: Jignesh Mehta on Feb 15, 2012 1:11 PM

VAT calculation through Pricing Procedure of MM

Hello gurus,
I have a doubt can we calculate and post the vat thru purchase condition type in pricing procedure, for excise and cess we are using Tax code with tax procedure TAXINJ, we are trying hard for it., we have even created new transactiion key and assign GL account to it, but still it is not posting at the time of MIGO.
your urgent help required,
Anand

Hi Anand
I too develop a new condition type for Vat in mm pricing procedure.
Our business process is as follows
We r transferring material to one depot to another to UK. we are doing STO through SD route. i created a vat condition type which is non inventorised and subsequently refund will be received.
Problem is that Accounting entries are not generating after doing PGI. Plese give your inputs on this.
I created a new gl accouts and assigned to posting keys.
Thanks
sitaram

Excise Invoice printout at Depot

I am doing Stock Transfers from Depot to Depot with Shipping.
After creating Excise Invoice in J1IJ, I am doing Proforma Billing for STO, but I am not able to get the Excise values in the Print out along with Moving Average Price from supplying Depot.
But when I am doing Stock Transfers from Plant to Depot I am able to get a printout with correct values.
Any tips for this.

Being it a depot, you can only pass on the excise duties with reference to original mother invoice receipt from a Plant.
as you do in J1IJ.
Scenario of a stock trasnfer from plant to depot & depot to depot are completely different as stated above.
You will have to do some workarounds for such scenarios with your pricing.
regards,
AK
Edited by: Akhileshwar Kashyap on Dec 2, 2009 9:38 PM

Printing of Depot Excise Invoice

Hii,
I have created a depot invoice through J1IJ. Can you all please let me know from where I could take the print of this invoice.
Regards
Ritam

In depot sales, the excise duty paid to vendor will be passed on customer for benefit. Let say 100 qty material are procured, and excise duty payable is 100 then it would be captured in J1IG and
While making J1IJ , excise invoice will be created for qty that we are selling to our customer .
Hence the routine 356 in jdepot pricing procedure will carry this values into billing , then while taking the printout , I hope values will be on the single invoice . This how customer do except for excise invoice.
Hema correct me if wrong, Will Jdepot pricing procedure will take the value from j1ij excise invoice posting or with a abaper you need to update the conditions getting the values from tables

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