Depreciation Adjustment While Asset Transfer

Hi,
We have some old legacy assets which is capitalized in 2010 and depreciating for the last 4 years, These old assets contain the value of several different assets and the usefull life of the old asset is 50 years, Now we need to segregate these old asset to different new assets , my process contains
1) Creating new assets with different asset class with different usefull life
2) Transfer the respective value from the main asset to the new assets
3) Adjustment of depreciation already posted.
Here i am facing some issues regarding the asset transfer , anybody suggest which is the best way to transfer the asset acquisition value to new assets ?
when i am using ABUMN to transfer the values , system posting depreciation value adjustment which is the alredy posted depreciation for the past 4 years with the usefull life as 50 years. Is there any methode to adjust these value ?
If i am posting Asset transfer with F-02 (with negative posting) , system will transfer the net book value and start the depreiation calculation based on the usefull life of the new asset. Here system is not considering the depreciation already posted.
Is it possible to make changes in the system where assets will consider the depreciation start date as 2010 (old asset depreciation start date), If i am manually changing the depreciation start date then system is calculating the depreciation start date as 1st period of the current year (because previous years are alredy closed),
instead of 5 years usefull life ,system depreciated the values with 50 years, i need to adjust the posted depreciation and when i create a new asset with usefull life of 5 years i need to manage the asset as already 4 years usefull life is expired.
Is there any solution ?
Regards
San

Hi Ajay,
Case : We have an asset 1000, which contains a value of $ 100000, it was capitalizes in 2010 with usefull life of 50 years and past 4 years depreciating with 50 years usefull life, This is a legacy asset and contains the value of so mny different assets.
Now we need to create different assetd with different asset class and contains different usefull life, We need to transfer the value from Asset 1000 to these new created assets, here my concern is about the depreciation already posted to the asset 1000,
Assume my new assets value is $ 20000, i can transfer the value from asset 1000 to my new created asset. but here depreciation should be a problem because last 4 years depreciation is calculated as 20000 @ 50 years , but actual usefull life was 5 years.
Is there any methode to adjust the already posted depreciation.
Regards
San

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Hi,
We have some old legacy assets which is capitalized in 2010 and depreciating for the last 4 years, These old assets contain the value of several different assets and the usefull life of the old asset is 50 years, Now we need to segregate these old asset to different new assets , my process contains
1) Creating new assets with different asset class with different usefull life
2) Transfer the respective value from the main asset to the new assets
3) Adjustment of depreciation already posted.
Here i am facing some issues regarding the asset transfer , anybody suggest which is the best way to transfer the asset acquisition value to new assets ?
when i am using ABUMN to transfer the values , system posting depreciation value adjustment which is the alredy posted depreciation for the past 4 years with the usefull life as 50 years. Is there any methode to adjust these value ?
If i am posting Asset transfer with F-02 (with negative posting) , system will transfer the net book value and start the depreiation calculation based on the usefull life of the new asset. Here system is not considering the depreciation already posted.
Is it possible to make changes in the system where assets will consider the depreciation start date as 2010 (old asset depreciation start date), If i am manually changing the depreciation start date then system is calculating the depreciation start date as 1st period of the current year (because previous years are alredy closed),
instead of 5 years usefull life ,system depreciated the values with 50 years, i need to adjust the posted depreciation and when i create a new asset with usefull life of 5 years i need to manage the asset as already 4 years usefull life is expired.
Is there any solution ?
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Hi Ajay,
Case : We have an asset 1000, which contains a value of $ 100000, it was capitalizes in 2010 with usefull life of 50 years and past 4 years depreciating with 50 years usefull life, This is a legacy asset and contains the value of so mny different assets.
Now we need to create different assetd with different asset class and contains different usefull life, We need to transfer the value from Asset 1000 to these new created assets, here my concern is about the depreciation already posted to the asset 1000,
Assume my new assets value is $ 20000, i can transfer the value from asset 1000 to my new created asset. but here depreciation should be a problem because last 4 years depreciation is calculated as 20000 @ 50 years , but actual usefull life was 5 years.
Is there any methode to adjust the already posted depreciation.
Regards
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Depreciation Problem after asset transfer

Hi All,
During our month end, our user did the asset transfer within the same company code. When he runs the Depreciation through AFAB, the new asset is not showing any depreciation for current month, where as Old asset has some balance. I checked the new asset and in the Depreciation area, the Dep. start date is showing as 05/02/08. We changed the date to 03/02/2008 through AS02, but still it is not showing up any depreciation. I do have following questions.
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Hi Muriel,
I am very sure you did not do it correctly. Now, this is the step to follow:
1. First adjust the APC value to what it should be using transaction code ABSO. Once you're sure that your Acquisition Value is correct, the next thing to do is
2. To execute transaction AFAB(Depreciation Run) in "Test Mode". This would give you the depreciation that would be posted by the system asset by asset. This are under three main headings namely: "Planned", "Posted" & "To Post".
Depending on your depreciation method, the "Planned" figure gives the total amount the system would post for the financial year whilst the "Posted" figure gives you what has been posted up to date and the "To Post" figure gives you what would be charged to the P&L when you run AFAB in Production mode.
Your Net Book Value(NBV) at the end of the depreciation run for say November 2006 would be NBV = APC - (Posted + To Post)
If Posted + To Post (i.e. Accummulated Depreciation) is more or less than what you expect it to be from you manual calculation, you then need to adjust the figure upward or downward depending on the situation at hand. That is when you now need to
3. Perform Manual Depreciation Adjustment using either transaction code ABAA or ABMA.
You can then use AW01N to view the asset. You would be able to see the different postings made. Do not forget to run AFAB in production mode. If not, no depreciation value would be posted and your report would still be wrong.
I hope the above helps.
Do not forget to award the points please.
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Jacob
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Hi
We are getting an error message when transfering an asset from one Company code to another Company code using transaction ABT1N.
We are getting the following error message -
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Diagnosis
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Procedure
Check the transfer variant and the receiving asset.
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Hi,
Can you please compare both of your CODs (Spain & UK), and find, which depreciation areas were comman for both CODs.
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Here assign the cross system areas to the respective local dep areas.--SAVE
BACK
Now set your COD (UK) with OAPL in other session.
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ret tran type = 300
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SAVE after creating records for each comman dep areas and use the same transfer variant, while doing ABT1N.
I hope all of your company codes were assigned to one global company only. (in OX16)
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Getting error while doing Intercompany asset transfer

This is the first time that they are doing an intercompany asset transfer in our client. Intracompany asset transfers were done in the past. While doing an intercompany transfer, an error is popping up as given below.:
Account 'Contra account: Acquisition value' could not be found for area 01
Message no: Au133
Diagnosis
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Procedure:
Enteer this account in the account determination for Asset Accounting.
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Hi,
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There one field will be there called Contra account: Acquisition value, so enter a B/S GL account there and SAVE it.
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Carl,
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Hi All,
I did the asset transfer with in the company code using T-code: ABUMN
Old Asset # 1000
Asset Value Date: 18/04/2006
Estimated Life time: 5 Years
Depreciation: Every year: $ 5400.00/12 = $ 450.00 p.m.
For the current year up to 31 Mar 2007 Posted Depreciation is $ 5400.00
I did the asset transfer
New asset # 2000
Asset Value Date: 18/04/2006
Estimated Life Time : 15 Years
Depreciation Posted up to 31/03/2007 - $ 1800
The issue is, after I did the transfer, the book value of the old asset # 1000 has transferred to new asset # 2000, the depreciation has also calculated correctly- $ 1800
In addition to that, an extra amount $ 450 (Depreciation amount of the old asset #1000 per month) has also deducted the book value of new asset # 2000
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Value Adjustment $      450-
   Net Book Value $ 24750 - But this value is not correct.
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Thanks for ur response, till now we were not run the depreciation from the golive date, now they were reconciling the depreciation in AW01N with manually for the last fiscal year 2007 to run the depreciation. In the asset transfer date(IMG) it is showing 31.03.2005. I think somebody changed the take over date in asset transfer date. In Asset explorer (AW01N) it is showing difference value in Ordinary depreciation while comparing with manual depreciation and also in AS92 it is not showing the take over values getting green colour message as "Asset was not created as old asset data record - (Check your entry)" I had checked in development server. if I changed the Asset Transfer date it is asking the recalcuate the depreciation. My doubt this is correct solution, if it is correct shall I do this directly in Production. Kindly helpme in this issue.
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