Devil's Canyon Z97 Compatibility

There is going to be some seriously :censored:ed off people, me included, if the Z97's are not compliant for the 4670k or 4790k out of the box. I function tested the mainboard with a 4770k and had revised the BIOS to V1.2 before V1.3 was ever released, but I no longer have that CPU readily available. The board better at least POST with the 4790k to be able to set it up enough to flash the full support V1.3! The forum can expect to see plenty of others with complaints starting next week if all their brand spanky new Z97 boards won't POST with either of the Devil's Canyon CPUs. All the Z87 owners are soon to follow with their tear jerk stories begging for support BIOS's.
Z97 Gaming 7 CPU Support List
Core i7 Haswell Refresh i7-4790K 100 4.0 1M 8M C0 88 HD Graphics 4600 1250MHz 7916v13.zip

Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 10-August-14, 15:23:58
4770k? 72.72C is the limit, so with that one it will hit 72C, and once in a great while if the ambient is high, 74C during transitional load changes on a couple cores.
Wow just as I expected haswell is about 10C's more hotter in full load with i7 OC'ed, right Froggy? That was with the same multi and vcore?

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Intel Devil's Canyon 4790k A Rebranded 4770k?

I wasn't the one to come up with this theory, but it is an interesting one to ponder. How simple and easy it would be for Intel to just improve the TIM implementation and program a higher clock frequency on a 4770k. Still a 22nm, and still the anemic 16 lanes. 20 lanes sure would have been an improvement (sarcasm). Fact or fiction? Truth or theory?

Not inconceivable. Most 4770K, just like the 3770K before can clock to 4,3 to 4,5 in turbo mode, with all voltages still in Auto. The only issue was heat. Intel knows that too well. Sandy had proper soldering and not some chemical compound that doesn't conduct. No matter what cooling you use, if the heat cannot be transferred from the inner chip to the lid, its all in vain. The only thing preventing great OC is the thermal characteristics.
So take the identical chips and package them the way that Sandy was packaged. Magic happens, not really, heat is transferred to the surface from where it can be dissipated via the heatsink, like it should. The potential of the chip is unleashed.
Wouldn't surprise me if all of a sudden these chips, which I suspect are onle repackaged 4770K, will show the 5GHz+ numbers that were achieved on air cooling with SB.
Quick win for Intel in terms of a new consumer interest in terms of OC potential. Now all you need to market with that, is how the Z97 chipset unleashes this OC potential and you have created the demand on both products. The Z87 owners will cry foul soon enough to have BIOS support for the Devil's Canyon, but only those that didn't jump onto the bleeding edge bandwagon of the Z97. If the microcode and BIOS support is perfected, then the same OC potential will exist on current Haswell boards.
Intel always releases these "special" versions towards the end of the life of a particular series.

Z87 compatiblity with Devil's Canyon

Question, if I have an older BIOS version (about to get a Z87 XPower), will I be able to boot up into the BIOS and successfully flash the latest BIOS with a Devil's Canyon chip?
The newer versions of the Z87 XPower do seem to support Devil's Canyon but I'm non 100% about what version of the BIOS is flashed onto the motherboard when I get it. Starting from AMI 1.5, it looks like the Haswell refresh are supported, but not sure if I can get into the BIOS to flash with just a DC chip? The chip is a G3258.
Should I clear the CMOS before handling the chip?
Also, are there any compatibility issues that I should be aware of? I understand that Haswell refresh and Z87 are not 100% compatible?

Haswell refresh and Devil's Canyon are 100% compatible with Z87 boards and the Z87 XPower IF a current bios version with an updated ME firmware has been flashed (either by the fab or the user). If you get a board that had been shelved before Haswell Refresh bios versions were released the board will not even post and you can not flash it yourself when trying a Devil's Canyon cpu. You'd need an older (supported) Haswell cpu then (e.g. any cheap Haswell Celeron) or contact a pc-shop to do so. If the board is at a bios version that supports Haswell Refresh but doesn't support Devil's Canyon yet you can update it yourself as it will at least post then and allow to update the bios.

Msi z87 mpower max AC support Intel Devil's Canyon?

the bios be updated to Intel Devil's Canyon?

Quote from: donpower on 10-June-14, 01:45:23
http://processormatch.intel.com/MotherBoards/CompatibleBoards
in the compatibility list are Z87 motherboard msi mpower max
is the same for the max ac mpower right?
Quote from: df1ech on 26-June-14, 15:54:25
And this i wonder about too.
Of course. These are identical boards except for the AC WLAN (Mpower MAX just 802.11 a/b/g/n WLAN)
Quote from: df1ech on 26-June-14, 20:47:44
http://www.msi.com/news/1664.html
That is irrelevant for the K cpus in question here as it covers the Haswell Refresh cpus without K already listed in cpu support chart.

Unboxing MSI Z97 Mpower Max AC Overclocking Motherboard

Intel Z97 chipset based motherboards is already out and I’m glad that Intel decided it to make the CPU socket the same LGA 1150 as before. Backward compatibility for the current CPUs and at the same time will have support for the upcoming Haswell Refresh and Broadwell (14nm) processors. More importantly, the chipset has three new features and these are:
•SATA Express – PCIe M.2 support. Can deliver data speeds up to 10Gb/s
•Boot Guard – serves as a shield against low-level malware attacks using Intel device protection system
•Upgraded Intel Smart Response and Raid start technologies. Now with Dynamic Cache Sharing
Few? yes, but don’t get disappointed about it yet, as I heard that the Z97 will be good at high memory frequencies and has better CPU overclocking.
That’s it for the review and thank you … just kidding hehehe. The main gist of this short review is on MSI’s Z97 MPower Max AC and it’s such a good looking motherboard. It has new features, heat sink design and OC essential tools which will be further discussed later on. Before that, let us take a look at the packaging first.
Black and Yellow ~~black and yellow…box is same as the Z87 Mpower Max before except for the OC Series logo design.
Flipping the front cover will give you some short info on Military Class 4 components (Hi-c Cap, Dark Cap, SFC, OC PCB), Guard-Pro (Circuit Protection, Humidity Protection, High Temperature Protection, ESD Protection, EMI Protection & Eco Power), OC Essentials (tools for overclocking), Enhanced Thermal Solution, Enhanced Power and Enhanced BIOS. Then to your right is a clear plastic window which will give you a sneak peek on the actual unit. Drools…
The Z97 Mpower Max AC is OC certified as it passed the Prime95 24-hour burn-in stress test with a liquid-cooled overclocked CPU. This is to ensure the board’s overclocking stability.
I/O overview is also shown here and Intel’s Wi-Fi AC module.
Specifications:
•CPU
Supports 4th and 5th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors, and Intel® Pentium® and Celeron® Processors for Socket LGA1150
•Chipset
Intel® Z97 Express Chipset
•Memory
4x DDR3 DIMMs 1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*/2200*/2400*/2600*/2666*/2800*/3000*/3100*/3200*/3300*(OC) DRAM, 32GB Max
•LAN
Intel I218-V Gigabit LAN controller
•Audio
Realtek® ALC1150 Codec
•Video
3 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots (support x16, x8/x8, x8/x4/x4 modes)
•Peripheral Interfaces
6x SATA 6Gb/s ports from Z97 with RAID Support
2x SATA 6Gb/s ports from ASMedia ASM1061
6x USB 2.0 ports (2 Rear / 4 Front)
12x USB 3.0 ports (8 Rear / 4 Front)
The package is full of bundles and some new stuff included
•Z97 Mpower Max AC Overview Map
•Z97 MPower Max User Guide
•Software & Application User Guide
•Overclocking Guide
•Quick Installation Guide
•OC Door Message Hanger
•SATA Cable Label Stickers
•MSI OC Badge
Closer look on MSI’s new OC case badge
•WiFi and Bluetooth Antenna
•Intel Wifi/Bluetooth Module
•MSI SLI Bridge
•IO Backplate
•M-Connector for Easy Header Installation
•V-Check Points Cable
MSI so extravagant with the bundles!!! Keep ‘em coming
•6x SATA 6GB/s Data Cables
•E-SATA PCI Expansion Bracket
What you will notice right away is the new water cooling heat sink for the VRM area. Enthusiasts will like this very much as they don’t have to worry on buying water blocks for this section. But even on stock, the heat sink is efficient to cool down the VRM chips. It is composed of heat pipe and ceramic materials.
PCB is matte black and is using dark solid capacitors. Layout is clean and organized especially on the area of the multi graphics card slots. OC button tools are placed on the upper right area of the board for easy access. The 8pin and 4pin power connectors on the upper left area are used to supply power to the CPU and it also helps achieve higher overclock potential and stability to the processor.
MSI also included an integrated Clock Generator chip called OC Engine (located below the CPU socket). Having this will support more BCLK adjustments from 100 / 125 / 167 MHz straps. The more flexible the strap is, the more doors for maximum OC potential.
12Phase DigitAll power design. Powerful enough to break OC world records and dominate benchmarks.
You also have the Military Class 4 components SFC chokes and Hi-c caps surrounding the CPU socket.
On the area in between the two heat sinks connected by a heat pipe is an additional 6pin power. It provides more juice and stability in multi-graphics card configuration.
The first two buttons on the left are the Base Clock Control Buttons. These buttons are used to increase or decrease the base clock frequency in real-time. At the bottom, you have the Discharge button and it allows you to fully discharge the motherboard and even removes information from the Z97 PCH. Next you have the Reset and Power buttons and lastly the most valuable button of them all – OC Genie for auto overclock.
To the farthest right is a switch. This is the OC Genie Mode switch which provides two overclocking modes. First mode is the Gear 1, the default automatic overclocking setting while Gear 2 is a higher auto overclock tweak than Gear 1. This goes hand in hand with the OC Genie Button.
V-Check Points is now version 2 with 2 extra ground connectors, allowing overclockers to use 3 multi-meters at the same time. You can check the VCCIN, DDR, Core,IGP, Ring Bus and System Agent voltage on the fly.
Audio Boost is also been upgraded. It has Dual Amps now and is using better Nippon Chemi-con filtering capacitors.
Here comes one of the major features of having Z97 chipset based motherboard, SATA Express. M.2 slot transfers data through a PCI Express 2.0 x2 interface which can reach up to 10 Gb/s speed. That is 67% much faster than your regular SATA 3 solutions.
Two more switches are to be found at the bottom of the board. First one is the Multi-BIOS Switch. This model has two built-in BIOS ROMs labeled as A and B (Default is BIOS ROM A). If one crashed, you can shift to the other for booting or perhaps use the other one for test purpose of new BIOS available in the net. You can also use this feature to fix corrupted BIOS. Next switch is the Slow Mode Booting and mostly used during LN2 or extreme overclocking situations. What it does is it will temporary decrease the CPU Ratio to 8x and after successfully booting to Windows you can flick the switch back again to apply your high overclock frequency settings.
Done with the switches and now for the small black button called Go2BIOS. Pressing this button before turning on your computer or right after a system restart, will go straight to your board’s BIOS.
The ever reliable Debug Code LED indicator is available in this model. This can be used greatly for troubleshooting boot up and hardware problems. Check out the User Manual Guide for the corresponding POST Code errors.
SATA ports 8 and 7 on the left are controlled by ASMedia ASM1061 while the rest are from the Intel Z97 chipset. There also 2x USB 3.0 internal headers available and also controlled by Intel Z97.
•PS2 Combo Port
•2x USB 2.0
•Empty space for Intel’s WIFI/Bluetooth AC Module
•6x USB 3.0 by ASMedia ASM1074
•1x Intel I218-V Gigabit LAN Controller
•1x S/PDIF Audio Output by Realtek ALC1150
•1x HDMI Port
•1x DisplayPort
•2x USB 3.0 by ASMedia ASM1042
•6x Analog Gold Plated Audio Ports by Realtek ALC1150
This is it for now and I don’t still have the right parts to run the motherboard to its max potential. I will update you guys as soon as I get my hands on the stuff I needed. Benchmarks and overclocking results will be made.
Long live MSI OC Series!!!

It is interesting MSI chose not to incorporate dedicated SATA Express port(s). Some manufacturers even incorporated that on it's Z87's.
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Few? yes, but don’t get disappointed about it yet, as I heard that the Z97 will be good at high memory frequencies and has better CPU overclocking.
If Intel didn't increase the useable RAM bandwidth with Devil's Canyon, those higher RAM frequencies are going to do nothing! With a VRM still in the CPU, even with the improved TIM, it remains to be seen how much of a better OC'er Devil's Canyon will be on conventional cooling solutions. Anything above Z97 Gaming 7 or 9 is kind of overkill for an average non exotic cooling pc user. If anything like the Z87 Power Max I got to work with, most of those OC settings on these class boards was a total waste. Z97 better OC'er for normal users? Time will tell.

Z97 MPower Mainboard + i7-4790K CPU

High,
can somebody help me, on compatibility of Z97 MPower board and the new i7- 4790K CPU ?
Thank you
Bruno

See here: http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-devils-canyon-coming-this-month-intel-core-i7-4790k-core-i5-4690k_143234
These processors should work on all Z97 boards and may work on some Z87 as well, but Z87 will probably get a BIOS update. Expect a BIOS update at the time of the release, around 25Jun.
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Devil’s Canyon will work on motherboards with Intel’s LGA 1150 socket and you’ll ideally want to use an Intel Z87 or Z97 chipset in order to change the unlocked multiplier on one of these processors. Intel isn’t sure all Z87 motherboards will be up to the task though as the board will need a BIOS/UEFI update before being able to use one of these processors
Read more at http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-devils-canyon-coming-this-month-intel-core-i7-4790k-core-i5-4690k_143234#KDPWlucUE51YL46Z.99

MSI Z97 XPOWER AC - Form Factor?

I have this board being shipped right now. I saw a question on Newegg asking whether this board is an E-ATX as mentioned at MSI, or XL-ATX as listed at the Egg.
Hopefully, it's E-ATX as my Corsair 900D apparently doesn't support XL-ATX. I thought it did, but when I saw this question, I checked and it doesn't.
If this motherboard is actually E-ATX then fine. If not, then I won't even open the box and will have to immediately return it.
This board has every single thing I've waited and looked for, ever since the specs for the new Devil's Canyon cpu were announced.
I also have an i7-4790K pre-ordered. They're supposed to be released June 25th.
TIA.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.
Any idea what an M.2 ssd is used for? Most Z97 boards, including mine, are M.2 ready, but what good are they?
If, IF, you can boot from one, then it would help in making a benchmarking system, I guess.
Just put a basic OS on it, along with your benchmark programs and nothing else. Not even a security program.
All I'm after is a stable 5GHz with the Devil's Canyon cpu and a full water cooling loop.
I know I've read that they won't easily do this, but the ones mentioned were all marked ES for Engineering Samples.
ES models never have benched very well since they're for helping the motherboard manufacturers design their new boards.
The faster cpu's will be retail versions, plus the ones that are binned for the company sponsored OC teams.
It's been quite a while since I hit a stable 5GHz, http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2350918, 2 years & 1 month, and it's high time I did it again. That was either on air or some Corsair water cooler. I'm hoping a full water cooling system this time around will make up for all these overly hot cpu's Intel has stuck us with these past 2 years.
Unless something drastic happens, this will be my last quad core system. Right now I'm running 2 Intel 6 core computers and am looking forward to X99 and, hopefully, an 8 core system with DDR-4.

Skype using 1GB ram and Error Message

I get the below error message on verion 7.30 of skype:
'Not enough storage to process this command'
PC Spec below:
Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150
Processor
Asus Z97-A Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard
Kingston HyperX 16GB (2x8GB) PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual
Channel Kit
SuperFlower Leadex GOLD 650W Fully Modular "80 Plus Gold"
Power Supply
Samsung 256GB SSD 850 PRO SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State
Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM
Corsair Hydro H80i High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus GeForce GTX 980 "Reference Design" 4096MB GDDR5
PCI-Express Graphics Card
Windows 8.1
Anyone any ideas on the error message?
Once it's poped, you can't get rid of it, it gives you an 'Ok' option, but if you press it, it just loads again, and you can't press the 'x' or it just comes back.
In order to get Skype working again I have to 'End Process' in task manager (Where I see it using 1GB Ram), and then re-start skype and it's fine.

Please, run the DirectX diagnostics tool.
Go to Windows Start and in the Run box type dxdiag.exe and press the OK button. This will start the DirectX diagnostics program. Run this diagnostics and save the results to a file. Please, attach this file to your post.
Be aware that you will have to zip this file before attaching it here.

PC build for PrPro & SpeedGrade

My builder is suggesting some body parts for a new editing machine, based on an Asus mobo listed below with 32Gb RAM, re-using my current EVGA GTX770-4gb video card and twin-raided SSD system drive ... but of course, there are choices. I don't know between the chips he's suggested which is best especially of course per dollar ... though a few dollars here & there I'm not worried about. And is the mobo a good choice for cost/performance?
Mobo:
ASUS Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac)/USB 3.1 LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com
RAM:
CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model CMZ32GX3M4X1866C10 - Newe…
Based on the above, he offered these chip choices ... and reasoning ... I try to follow his reasoning, but ... I'm not the tech brain he and clearly some around here are. And while he builds incredible gaming machines per dollar, he doth get frustrated when Adobe doesn't code things the way he thinks they should, and his knowledge of just what works for the Adobe DVA's isn't as comprehensive as many here. I have had him look at the Tweaker's page. I don't know how much weight he put on what he found there. Anyway ... these are what he suggested for CPU ideas given the above choices ... would love to hear thoughts & suggestions.
Assuming we get any one of the options to an extra 800Mhz with the same $300 cooling system, their total Mhz per dollar scores are:
6 core Ivy-Bridge @ 4.8Ghz / $1325.99 = 21.7Mhz/$
6 core Haswell-E @ 4.1Ghz / $0689.99 = 35.6Mhz/$
4 Core Devil's Canyon @ 4.8Ghz / $639.99 = 30Mhz/$
Or, in the context of single threads, like a given video stream, where its simply top speed / $:
Ivy-Bridge @ 4.8Ghz / $1325.99 = 3.6Mhz/$
Haswell-E @ 4.1Ghz / $0689.99 = 5.9Mhz/$
Devil's Canyon @ 4.8Ghz / $639.99 = 7.5Mhz/$
So while the old Haswell offers in stock speeds the greatest Mhz per dollar ratio in a general sense, the Devil's Canyon gives the best top-speed per dollar.
In contrast, using stock cooling and keeping stock speeds, the per-dollar efficiency is pretty stellar:
6 core Ivy-Bridge @ 4.0Ghz / $1025.99 = 23.3Mhz/$
8 core Haswell-E @ 3.0Ghz / $1049.99 = 22.8Mhz/$
6 core Haswell-E @ 3.3Ghz / $389.99 = 50.7Mhz/$
4 Core Devil's Canyon @ 4.4Ghz / $339.99 = 51.7Mhz/$
So basically, the sweet-spot for efficiency without taking into account the cost of building a whole machine to support the CPU, is the Devil's Canyon as linked, sans additional thermal units. Taking it into overclocking, however, we would expect to pay 117% the cost for 120% capacity. This is one of those very rare cases when I'd recommend doing so.
Neil

first, game machines are based off maxing the graphics. most get by just fine with an i5 and a high end video card or two or three. video/graphics programs are the opposite. they use the cpu much more than the graphics, and in some cases like AE, use the graphics very little to none. video games are still primarily 32-bit applications, which only use 2 cores but usually run better on 4 core cpu's. most video/graphics programs are now 64-bit which will make use of as many cores as given. the problem is with bad/sloppy programing, which adobe is guilty of. parts of the program are still single threaded, 32-bit based, and therefore can bottleneck the program as everything has to wait just for one part of the program to finish. AE is guilty of this, as many of its effects are still 32-bit and ruin its performance. they have their tricks to help get around it, but its still terrible. they are supposedly working on updating it to be true 64-bit and use the graphics card to catch up with the other major players in that market, but who knows when they will do that. these may be some of the things he gets frustrated with, as would anyone who buys a fast computer only to have the software bottleneck itself. this is becoming extremely important as intel is adding cores and dropping its clock speeds to gain performance/speed. intel has some xeons with 12, 14 and even 18 cores. that 18 becomes 36 with hyper-threading! any program thats not full/true 64-bit could bottleneck a $50,000 super computer into a $500 dell. this is why its so important that software companies get their act together.
so for parts, if you need to save money build around a i7-4790K and possibly re-use your ram. if you have the budget, get the latest and greatest, the new haswell-E. the i7-5820K is best value, but there is also the i7-5930K and i7-5960K. the new haswell-e takes ddr4 ram, so you wont be able to re-use your ram. ddr4 also costs a bit more as its new tech. if you are overclocking and paying for high-end overclocking components, then you can afford to go with the haswell-e.

Z97i Gaming bios settings clearing after power is disconnected

I've just received a Z97i Gaming mobo with a Devil's Canyon i5 4690k. Whenever I remove the powercord from the PC the bios settings clear, including the date and time etc. I've tried updating to bios version 1.1 but the problem persists.
I've read this problem is typically due to a dead battery, but this is a new board, so I thought it was unlikely to be the issue. If it is definitely the battery, please could someone help me locate it on the board as the manual/ google search hasn't yielded anything useful.
Thanks in advance.
Craig

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If it is definitely the battery, please could someone help me locate it on the board as the manual/ google search hasn't yielded anything useful.
Sounds like it is the battery. See pics for it's location:

Ram compatibility on gaming 3 z97 MB

Hey guys, i am going to buy MSI Gaming 3 (Z97) and there is in specifications this
Memory DDR3: 1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*/2200*/2400*/2600*/2666*/2800*/3000*/3100*/3200*/3300*(*OC) MHz
i wonder if i could mount following memmory in this board without any problems in compatibility or bottlenecking
Memmory: Corsair 8GB KIT DDR3 1866MHz CL9 Red Vengeance Low Profile
Thanks for help

Hi,
Should be no problem with this RAM. Though as mentioned by the spec, anything above 1600MHz is OC which is not guaranteed by MSI it will work (it's CPU memory controller and RAM compatibility debate rather than motherboard)
Though I am happy owner of Corsair RAM that is apparently 1600MHz (on the box) but runs flawlessly at 2133MHz

Z97-GD65 Gaming compatibility

Hi there!
I wonder if anyone knows the compatibility with the Z97-GD65 GAMING mobo to my older Z68A-GD65 mobo. I'm using Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B memory but on the compatibility it only lists Corsair [Vengeance] CMZ16GX3M2A1600C10 or [Vengeance] CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10. Are they close enough to work? (I have 4x4GB modules).
Also on CPU I have Intel i5 2500k (Sandybridge) @3.30Ghz socket 1155 LGA which I do not see listed (didn't know there were so many different i5's) even though mine is Haswell and this mobo uses Ivybridge which is compatible with Sandybridge?!
If anyone knows about this I'd be very grateful for the answer. Thanks!

yes, no way to use this old CPU in newest platform
for detailed CPU support about Z97-GD65 Gaming see here:
http://us.msi.com/support/mb/Z97GD65_GAMING.html#support_support

MSI Z97 U3 Plus Compatibility Issue with router WD My Net N900 Conn.Prob.noIP

I got problems with LAN connection on new mb MSI Z97 U3 Plus on which is used Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller (Realtek® 8111G Gigabit LAN controller).
I can't get IP from DHCP of the WD My Net N900 router.
I've made new fresh install Windows 7-64bit Ultimate, tried drivers on dvd which came with mb, downloaded drivers from msi web, downloaded latest drivers from realtek site, none of them helped me.
There was no conflict in device manager all drivers were fine, but when connected cable I get only ip 169.254.x.x, even when I manually added my ip 192.168.1.x I get connected localy, but no internet connection.
On same router are other pc, nb, tb, mp connected and working.
I tried even another LAN cable, but problem not resolved.
Restarted N900 router more times.
On router I got latest firmware Firmware Release 1.07.16 (5/21/2013).
But when I connected it to old Netgear router which is not conected to internet I get the ip address correctly.
I dont think that on new mb could be the LAN bad or?
Anyone have same problems compatibility with WD My Net N900 routers an Realtek PCIe Gigabit Controllers?
Can someone HELP me out with this problem PLEASE? THANKS!

It seems more like problem with router's config, rather than computer's.
When you said restarted, did you mean just off and on, or restored default settings? You might need to configure things through the router (default gateway 192.168.1.1).
Also, I don't really know these tools that are provided by WD, but why not give them a try?
http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=1704&lang=en (I'd try Smartware update, NetView evaluation tool and Installed CD ISO) just to try out.

Will MSI Z87 MPOWER Motherboard boot into Bios with Devils Canyon?

Hey guys !
I decided to take the plunge and update to a Devils Canyon i5 4690k and purchased a MSI Z87 MPOWER motherboard which was on special. I know I need to update the bios for this cpu.
I forgot to check something crucial !
Will i be able to boot into UEFI Bios and update the Bios with this CPU ???? I have only used ASUS Mobo's and they have the bios flashback feature. I'm worried i'll have this great mobo and cpu and not be able to update !!! I don't have a standard haswell cpu to use just to update the bios to support Devils Canyon.
Could someone confirm if it will boot allowing me to update via the MSI Bios flash method.
I still have time to cancel the order if need be.
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not quite automatically. It will recognise the CPU but may not properly work or boot. You can try booting into Windows/other OS, but you might need to update BIOS.
Once you have the updated BIOS prepared on the USB stick, you just boot from the USB stick and it will give you some instructions etc to follow, and that's all about updating.
As last resort if it won't let you do it, you can take motherboard to some PC repair center where they have SPI programming tool and they'll update BIOS even without the CPU inside

Just purchased Z97 Gaming 7 and was wondering about Compatibility with RAM

Hello there,
Just purchased the Z97 Gaming 7 MB and was wondering if it is compatible with the following RAM -
Kingston HyperX 16 GB 1600 Mhz CL9 DDR3 HyperX Beast Desktop Memory Kit (2 x 8GB) - Intel XMP
G.Skill 16GB Ripjaws X Dual Channel Memory Kit - Blue (2x 8GB, DDR3 1600MHz,1.5v, F3-1600C9D-16GXM, XMP Ready)
Corsair CMZ16GX3M2A1600C9 Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 1600 Mhz CL9 XMP Performance Desktop Memory Kit Black
Regarding the Kingston, the model number specified in the MSI compatibility list of this board is very similar to the ram I've listed.
Thanks in advance and feel free to share your opinion on the rams or if you recommend anything else.
Thanks

Quote from: Sea Dog on 06-August-14, 14:36:13
It's too late for that. OP inquired about Z97, this has taken a turn to a Z87 and a debate.
Seems you have a bit to learn about RAM speed and actual performance achieved. Over 1866 doesn't show much gain. Higher the speed the more you have to 'loosen' the timings, :: rest of quote snipped ::
Yes, I probably could learn a thing or two about memory I suppose. I don't claim to be an expert on this subject. But, I've built several systems (always with Asus boards...) for 15 years or so for myself, family, and friends. I have a BS in computer science and masters in Electrical Engineering working in the SCADA/Control Systems field (look it up) so I do know a thing or two. I've never had a problem till now, my first MSI board.
I'm not sure how responding to a thread, hoping a user’s experience with memory would benefit me, is "hijacking" a thread but call it what you will. I don't recall too much of a debate except from you and the forum memory expert (not the GSKill guy, the other guy...) so back off. Funny how MSI's recommended memory list(s) prominently mention GSKill as being compatible multiple times with my exact memory, the F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH, being listed as well. Yet, GSKill is up to something funny with their timings which benefit only Asus or whatever while causing problems on everyone else motherboards.
For future reference, I'm not claiming anything in particular (such as memory) is causing my system to crash. I saw the forum sticky about GSKill memory and this thread which mentions GSkill. Since I'm using GSkill, which I have for multiple system builds without issues in the past, I began to wonder about something. After all, things do happen. Perhaps I simply got some bad sticks or something. It does happen regardless of brand/vendor.
For the record, I suspect the stupid Killer NIC, its driver, and/or system tray panel are to blame for my issue(s). The more I think about this NIC, the more I hate it. Give a boost to a specific app/game for better performance. That's marketing BS. All it does is give a specific app/game priority by purposely dropping performance of all the other apps so the designated process looks better relative to the other programs on the same system. I call that false advertising and potentially something worse.
Time will ultimately tell where my issue is.
MSI may have lost a customer...
The best of everything to everyone here and enjoy the rest of the day,
Chris

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