Direct JDBC vs SOAP

hi,
We need to provide a service for a partner. Which performances better-- direct JDBC from partner's application server to our database, or we host SOAP service and implement soap client call in partner's application server? Also, can JDBC go through firewall?
Thanks,
Dean

We need to provide a service for a partner. Which
performances better-- direct JDBC from partner's
application server to our database, or we host SOAP
service and implement soap client call in partner's
application server? Also, can JDBC go through
firewall?Generally speaking, less layers are faster, but the answer is seldom that simple. The JDBC implementation may require multiple round trips across the network whereas you can craft a SOAP conversation with HTTP 1.1 that will (in the large) make only a single roundtrip and that can be a much greater performance factor.
You CAN get a JDBC link to work across a firewall, as long as you open the right ports ;->
Chuck

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bean update to the DB has not been committed yet.
We are using Weblogic 5.1 SP6. The DB is Oracle.
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Patrick Shen wrote:
>
But if I do that, then they would not be in the same transaction anymore.
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Are you calling all the CMP create in the session Bean ? If so, beforeyou
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"L'artiste" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Can you give a little bit more information?
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"Patrick Shen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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these
are not in the same transaction. When I use the JDBC call, the CMP
entity
bean update to the DB has not been committed yet.
We are using Weblogic 5.1 SP6. The DB is Oracle.
What I do for the JDBC is get a new connection from the pool usingweblogic
jdbc pool driver.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Can anybody give me the links for SOAP to JDBC/RFC-BAPI or RFC-BAPI/JDBC ---> XI ---> SOAP XI Scenario?
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> PI -
> SOAP Adapter -
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HI,
for XI EP
Please see the below links so that you can have clear Idea..
/people/saravanakumar.kuppusamy2/blog/2005/02/07/interfacing-to-xi-from-webdynpro
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/webas/java/integrating%20web%20dynpro%20and%20sap%20xi%20using%20jaxb%20part%20ii.article
Consuming XI Web Services using Web Dynpro Part II-/people/riyaz.sayyad/blog/2006/05/08/consuming-xi-web-services-using-web-dynpro-150-part-ii
Consuming XI Web Services using Web Dynpro Part I -/people/riyaz.sayyad/blog/2006/05/07/consuming-xi-web-services-using-web-dynpro-150-part-i
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/09/15/creating-a-web-service-and-consuming-it-in-web-dynpro
/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/09/15/connecting-to-xi-server-from-web-dynpro
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Dear all,
I configured scenario where SOAP web service is consumed from SAP ABAP system via PI. The problem is in communication with the web service: the error observed in communication channels monitor for the configured SOAP receiver channel is:
Message processing failed. Cause: com.sap.aii.af.ra.ms.api.RecoverableException: invalid content type for SOAP: TEXT/HTML; HTTP 302 Moved Temporarily: java.io.IOException: invalid content type for SOAP: TEXT/HTML; HTTP 302 Moved Temporarily
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If the service is consumed not via PI, but tested directly from external SOAP client (I used soapUI) with the same WSDL and endpoint, the response is fine and error-free.
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I am working on a similar scenario where I my consuming an external web service using https protocol from PI.
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This is their server fail over handling mechanism which is very common. But PI 7.0 is not able to handle this.
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I can easily send strings and primitive datatypes to and from different
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Erik van Zijst <[email protected]> wrote:
Looking at the multitude of questions regarding SOAP and WLS 6, I think
the time has come to make some kind of HOWTO on integrating SOAP
(especially apache's rpcrouter) in WLS 6.
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SOAP?
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rpcrouter admin);
- define DeploymentDescriptors for these EJB-wrappers.
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implemented many interfaces).
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implementations if it is ever to pass one as an argument to a SOAP
function call.
In case of a Java client, I might give it these classes at forehand. In
case of, say, a C-sharp app, this ain't an option.
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implementation abstraction: my EJB return-types and arguments are all
interfaces. So the clients automatically use RMI to obtain an
implementation at runtime. What about SOAP here? How do SOAP clients
obtain implementations of these classes?
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even get me a working SOAP interface for my EJB's?
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Erik van Zijst

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i am working on scenario as given below.
JDBC to SOAP synchronous.
So once i got the response i need to save as file (XML format).
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Hi Saran,
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