Direct material POs question
We are implementing a classic scenario with direct procurement (PDP) in EBP 5.0 (SRM 4.0) with 4.7 as the backend.
The problem is that the POs generated are not changeable in R/3 because the buyer who is responsible for direct materials has been created locally (per SAP configuration notes).
So, the question is - is this standard functionality or not ?
P.S. - The POs can be changed in EBP, though
Thank you.
-Bakulesh
Hi Bakulesh,
Direct procurement with ECS prevent from modifying the backend PO. This is the standard behaviour !
Because you have a PO in two system, you have a master system (SRM) and a slave system( backend).
In the slave system, the PO is jus a copy of the master PO which resides in SRM.
If possible, do not change this behaviour, as you will have some desynchronisation between SRM PO and backend PO content.
Why do you need to change the backend PO ? What data ?
Kind regards,
Yann
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we like to create a PO, from a QUOT after BID, with transaction type "ECDP" (Direct Material). Therefore we select in QUOT the transaction type "ECDP" and press the "Create PO" button. I can´t see any differents to the transaction type "ECPO" (Normal PO). The Backround is that we like to create a PO without account data (e.g. G/L account, cost center), but we got the same error message both "ECPO" and ECDP". The error message from backend is ME 083 "No cost center".
Has anybody of you an idea how I can use the direct material functionality in QUOT.
Thanks for you help in advance.
Kind regards
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<b>Please go through the following - ></b>
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Note 496082 FAQ: Account assignment in purchasing
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Dear All,
My requirement is like this:
There are some 16 material groups from A to P each containing some materials(finished goods).
I want to allocate overhead to different material groups(Charecteristic in copa) in COPA using the periodic assesment cycles. I am able to allocate overhead(admin & sales cost) to different value fields in copa from different cost centers.
I want to analyse the product cost and also the profitability of each material group in COPA using Report painter. Iam able to pull all the costs which i assign to value fields using assessment. But, i am NOT able to get the direct material cost which is issued to production orders using BOM.
My question is whether we can assign the direct material cost to any user defined value field(material cost value field) while the material is being issued to production orders. Is there any automated way where we can directly assign the direct material cost to value field in copa while issuing the material to Production orders.
Pls explain me whether we can do it. if yes how?
Thank you very much in advance.
Regards,
Vishnu
VST-IT.PA is a Profitability analysis tool. That means it gets updated when a sale is made, not before. (Except for settlements and assessment of overheads.)
Goods issues for production gets updated in CO-PC, and needs to be analysed there. If you don't, you loose all the inbuilt tools for variance analysis, cost estimate comparisons, Wip Calculation etc. To the best of my knowledge, a Profitability Segment cannot be used as a cost object in Production Planning, because amongst others, you need to be able to capitalise the produced materials to stock at the end of the production run, or to WIP at the end of the Financial period,which is not possible with PS.
Similarly, overheads are recorded in CCA and needs to be analysed there.
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Activating Order as Direct material button on Shopping cart screen
Hello SRM experts,
we are in SRM 5.0. we implemented BADI: BBP_DP_PROD_CHK_BADI to suppress Order as direct material button on Shopping cart screen.in this BADI under PRODUCT_CHECK method we have this code CLEAR ev_dp_possible.Now the requirement is to bring back that order as direct material on to shopping cart screen and we need to check there for direct material and non direct material.
i commented the code in METHOD PRODUCT_CHECK . but still i'm unable to see that button on SC screen.After bringing that button on to screen we need to check for Direct and non direct materials, if it is a non-direct material and trying to press button Order as Direct Material it should hav to give some error.
please help me.
thanks in Advance....Dear Poster,
As no response has been provided to the thread in some time I must assume the issue is resolved, if the question is still valid please create a new thread rephrasing the query and providing as much data as possible to promote response from the community.
Best Regards,
SDN SRM Moderation Team -
Regarding direct material procurement in Classic scenario.
Hello SRM Gurus ,
We are implementing SRM5.0 classic scenario, (SSP with CCM).
As per standard , Shopping cart for a direct material (Requisition for
stock) will create a follow-on document in SRM only (controlled extended
classic scenario).
Client's requirement is that it should create a back-end PR in R/3 system.
Reason being, the client needs to have only one indenting system and one
procurement system.
which BAPI in R/3 for PR/PO has to be used to create PRs or Pos from SRM. Similarly, RFC which FMs have to be used to update status in SRM.
How to bypass the standard replication mechanism.
Please help me..
Thanks and regards,
Mani
mail id : [email protected]Hi
<b>Why not go for the BADI -> BBP_TARGET_OBJTYPE</b>
Or
<u>Alternatively using SPRO settings, you can change the standard behaviour of the system based on various attrbutes e.g., for a Particular Product, Item category, etc.</u>
<b>Here is the Path ->
IMG -> Supplier Relationship Mnagement -> SRM Server -> Cross-Application Basic settings -> Define Objects in Backend System (Purch. Reqs, Reservations, Purch. Orders)</b>
<b>Define Objects in Backend System (Purch. Reqs, Reservations,</b>
You perform this step only if you create your Materials Management documents in a backend system.
You specify the documents that are to be created in the backend system for a requirement coverage request.
The following documents can be created:
Purchase requisition
Purchase order
Reservation
You enter a product category (such as office supplies, or hardware) and/or an organizational unit. The organizational unit contains the purchasing group that is responsible for procuring products in this category.
You can enter the product category generically, such as Office*.
Note
The backend system is determined using the product category in the requirement coverage request item. The item also contains the organizatinal unit.
You can use the Business Add-In BBP_TARGET_OBJTYPE if you wish to implement a different logic for creating documents in the backend system.
Example
If purchasing group 01 wants to procure materials from the category Raw Materials, a reservation is to be created every time.
If materials in the category PC are to be procured, a purchase requisition is to be created every time.
Activities
1. Enter the organizational unit and/or the category.
2. Enter a source system.
3. Choose the procurement type.
Reservation if stock is available, otherwise external procurement
The system creates a reservation if the material is subject to inventory management and sufficient stock quantity is available in the warehouse on the requested date.
Always reservation for materials subject to inventory management
The system creates a reservation if the material is subject to inventory management, irrespective of whether stock is available.
Always external procurement
The system does not create a reservation, but always procures the item externally. In this case, you specify the type of external procurement.
The following options are significant if the system cannot create a reservation (for example, if there is no stock available or for a non-stock item) or the system must not create a reservation (choose Always external procurement).
Purchase order if item data complete, otherwise purchase requisition
The system always tries to create a purchase order. If the item data is incomplete (for example, the vendor or price is not known), the system creates a purchase requisition from the item.
Always purchase requisition
The system always creates a purchase requisition.
Always local purchase order
The system always creates a local purchase order.
Hope this will help.
Please reward suitable points.
Regards
- Atul -
Order as direct material in catalog, with contract
Hi,
We are using SRM 5.5 and we have an issue concerning direct materials in a SC.
In the shopping cart via a catalog, when you choose "Order as direct material" function for an item on the 'Basic data' detail screen, the information about the contract assigned to that item disapear.
This situation doen't happen when we do a SC with reference to a contract, but without being in catalog.
Do you have any idea about the reason of this behaviour?
Many thanks,
Andreia NascimentoIs this thread still valid? If not, please close the thread.
If so, as no response has been submitted, please rephrase your question and/or provide further information to describe your requirement.
Thanks
Jason
SDN SRM Moderator Team -
How to use the direct material indicator in Plan Driven Procurement?
Dear Experts,
How the system determine the procurement as direct material procurement in Plan driven scenario? In case of manual shopping cart, the system determines the direct material /indirect material procurement based on the check box 'Order as direct material'
indicator.
Now in case of plan driven procurement, where the requisition comes from ECC system, there is no way to indicate in the MM system for direct material?
Could you please enlighten me here?
Thanks and regards,
RanjanHi Ranjan,
In case of manual shopping cart, system at that point does not know whether the material procured has inventory management maintained or material valuation. Hence we need to specify option of 'Order as direct material'.
But when requisition is created in ECC system, SAP system already is aware of direct procurement since material used will have material master / Inventory management / Material valuation / Storage location etc maintained. And the info or some indicator will be sent to front end SRM system accordingly.
Moreover it does not really matter for front-end SRM system to check whether it's a direct or indirect procurement since all procurement processes followed in SRM will be exactly same.
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-Ravi -
Hi experts
I am using transfering external requirements from R/3 to SRM for direct material, in SAP documentation to use external requirements and create POs as direct material I should use badi BBP_DP_PROD_CHK_BADI, but my external requirements when tranfered to SRM become POs as direct material and mentioned Badi is not activated.
Why this is happening?
Thanks
NilsonSolved
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Getting error while creating PO for direct material in SRM 7.0
While creating PO in SRM for direct material,i am getting the error as :Backend error-No Funds center entered/derivedin item 00001(3000/2211100).Please suggest me the solution
Hi,
We are using PPS functionality with SRM 7.0
Regards,
Gopal
Edited by: gopalthadi on Feb 9, 2011 5:01 PM -
Error in Order as direct material with PPS activated
Hi,
Using SRM 7.0, EHP-1 activated PPS. Before activating PPS direct material scenario worked fine. After activating the PPS I getting the following error.
No account assignment exists; enter an account assignment.
Created new account assignment category and assigned that in u201CSet Default Account Assignment Category for Direct Materialu201D. Even after that also I am getting the above error. Please suggest where I am doing mistake. Only for down payments purposes we activated the PPS. Now SRM system is only working for purchase orders with account assignment and getting the above error immediately after pressing on order as direct material. I am not able to transfer Purchase requisitions also. In SLG1 getting the above error.
Please suggest what to do.
KiranHello Kiran,
Also I had PPS active in SRM 7.0 EhP0:
SRM_SERVER SAPKIBKV09
SRM_EXT SAPK-70006INSRMEXT
and in my case the error:
No account assignment exists; enter an account assignment
was fixed by note:
[1473951 - Follow-on note of note 1339337|https://service.sap.com/sap/support/notes/1473951]
You might check also other related notes:
Note 1293572 - Account assignment is cleared in case of direct material (Delivered in SAPKIBKV04)
Note 1362696 - Accounting screen action metadata for Direct Material line (Delivered in SAPKIBKV04)
Note 1369359 - Issues related to Direct Material error messages (Delivered in SAPKIBKU06)
Note 1399676 - Guaranteed Minimum: Display Accounting for Direct material (Delivered SAPK-70006INSRMEXT)
Regards,
Peter Jancik -
Issue in PO creation for Direct Material Procurement.
Hi Experts,
I am working with SRM 7.0 Classic Scenario.
I have no issues with SC creation for indirect materials with Account Assignment.
But when I select Order as Direct material in SC for any material with out account assignment on Approval of SC PO is created in SRM system as Extendended Classic Scenario even though I have not activated Extended classic scenario.
Kindly help me out in this issue how can I order as DIRECT MATERIAL WITH Classic scenario.
Regards,
B.N.Karthikeyan.karthi
it is standard behavior,
but you can do one thing .
BBP_CREATE_BE_PO_NEW BADI - TRY . CLEAR THE ACCOUNT ASSIGNMENT .Thats all . check it up with technical resoucre.
but you have to decide by developemnt what are the materials are PO with account / without account assignment
br
muthu -
"order as direct material" indicator is not coming in Shopping Cart.
Hi Experts,
I am trying to perform the employee self service procurement for a direct material. I have performed the below config and attribute maintenance.
1. Defined a new transaction type and new number range for local PO in SRM Config
2. In R/3 Back-End, for the same document type, I have ensured that number range is present
3. For my Root Organization, I have added "DP_PROC_TY" for "Transaction Type: Create PO manually" maintained with my above transaction type defined
4. I have selected my local P Group and added 001 Product Category with R/3 Back-end system as source system in "Responsibility" tab
After that I have started created Shopping Cart expecting to find "Order as Direct Material" indicator in Shopping Cart details.
But I could not be able to see that indicator in Shopping Cart. What I see is Product Category 001 but different P Group is coming.
Is this the reason, what I am missing. Please help.
Thanks & RegardsHi,
Please check that the component configuration has not hidden the field, it is under the following configuration:
General Information About the Application and Component
Application: /SAPSRM/WDA_L_FPM_GAF
Web Dynpro Component: /SAPSRM/WDC_DODC_SC_I_BD
Window Information: IV_L_FPC_CA_DETAILS
View Information: V_DODC_SC_I_BD
Configuration ID: /SAPSRM/WDCC_FPM_DODC_SC_I_BD_WI
Component Element you are looking for is ORDER_DIRECT_MAT_LABEL
Also check if someone has hidden the field using WD customizing onscreen, right click over the screen and choose 'User Settings', here check if any fields are hidden.
Regards,
Jason -
Source of supply doesnu2019t work for SC items ordered as direct material.
Hi there.
We are working in SRM 5.0 with classic scenario.
We are doing a SC with material code.
We create a SC with two identical items. The only difference between items is: one item is order as direct material and the other one not.
The problem is that for our item order as direct material, the system doesnu2019t propose any ECC contract or any ECC info record. But for our item not order as direct material, the system propose us ECC contract and ECC info record.
So for SC items orders as direct material, the system never proposes any source of supply.
However, in transaction BBPSOCO01 (Carry of sourcing) the systems propose source of supply OK for SC items with and without direct material.
Any suggest?
Thanks and regards.
Raúl.Hi,
The issue might be because when you choose, 'order as direct', the scenario changes from classic to extended classic, hence only local contracts are proposed in this case. Since you don't have anything local, you will not see any source of supply. Try using bbp_sos_badi instead and call all backend contracts using fm meta_sourcedeter_getsos_multi.
Regards,
Sanjeev -
Order as Direct Material Changes the Delivery Address
Hello,
We have encountered an odd behavior when the Order as Direct Material button is pressed. The delivery address that previously displayed is changed to the plant address.
Is this normal? Can it be de-activated so that is does not changes the address?
Regards, DeanMuthu,
Thanks for the reply.. been busy...Is there a way to change this behavior with BADIs, etc? I think I can do it BBP_DOC_CHANGE_BADI. However, I thought there might be a more elegant way .
Regards, Dean. -
How to ensure for material POs, TDS does not get deducted.
Dear Seniors,
Single vendor is supplying material and doing some service also. How do we ensure that for material POs, TDS does not get deducted.
Regards
KVKRHi kkvr,
As i see your requirement is to execute MRRL alongwith the performing a proper TDS deduction and also using single vendor.
There is no Standard SAP solution for this, as a workaround you will have two options for doing the same
Option 1 : Create a different vendor code then you can run mrrl for the vendor code one for service and another for material
The demerits of this solution is duplication of vendor code, which results in not having proper information for the SCM personnel for the purpose of vendor evaluation and vendor reconcilation
Option2:
you need to enahce the Purchase order at line item level with the a custom fields for the WHT tax code to be selected at the time of PO creation. For this you need to do a screen enahcement in PO and also at the time of providing the popup for selection it should only dipslay the wht codes available in the vendor master so that proper control on the tax code selection will happen.
The practical issues here is the po creation person should have the knowledge of the tds code which you need to see whether it is possible or not or you can also suggest that finance controller should be part of po release startegy to check these po's to ensure the correct tds code populated.
Further to this you need to also perform additional enahcement changes for the selected tds codes in the po it should be replaced at the time of mrrl transaction making other tds tax codes base as 0 or removal of tds codes not applicable in the exit.
This exit with the help of the abaper you will be able to find hte standard enhacements available for mrrl and code the same over there so that at the time of posting this will happen.
Further, to this while writing the logic you can also further stream line it as for material po's the tds not to be deducted at all so that user input for the material po's can be avoided and it is required only for service po's this disticntion you can do with the item category.
With this you can perform the enahncement with a minimal changement to achieve your purpose.
Do let me know if you have any quereies,
Regards,
Bharathi
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