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Thanks for the Info guys!.
 I got a work around. I have client side JavaScript that checks to see if Permanent
 Cookies are disabled. I then pass the flag to the destination URL. If cookies are
 disabled, then I just set it to a temporary cookie and it's find.
 Got some tips from groups.googles.com. This side use to be the Deja Newsgroups.
 Later...
 - Wayne
 "Vyas" <[email protected]> wrote:
 >
 >If you use encodeurl to encode all your links (in the HTML you throw back
 >to browser)
 >then weblogic is supposed to detect if a browser is able to accept cookies
 >or not
 >(if not then uses URLencoding to put the cookies in the URL).
 >By default URLencoding is enabled in weblogic if cookies are turned off
 >on the browser
 >side.
 >
 >As usual there are a few caveats though
 >1. WL documentation states the because for the first communication, since
 >weblogic
 >does not know that a cookie is being accepted or not , it always encodes
 >the uRL.
 >I don't how this is supposed to be really true or not, because if true the
 >first
 >URL should always have JSESSIONID, I did not find it to be the case.
 >2. Even though cookies are turned off on the browser, I did not see URL
 >encoding
 >happening all the time.
 > There is an explicit option in weblogic to turn off cookies completely
 >(irrespective
 >of what the browser is doing).
 >
 >The bottomline is that your app has to code for urlencoding.
 >
 >Vyas
 >
 >"Wayne Lau" <[email protected]> wrote:
 >>
 >>I know that you can't save a permanent cookie to the user's computer when
 >>cookies
 >>are disabled in a browser. You can set a temporary cookie that will last
 >>for the
 >>session. An example is Weglobic's JSESSIONID cookie.
 >>
 >>First. I was hoping that when I tried to set a permanent cookie, that at
 >>least the
 >>cookie would last for the session so that it gets sent back to Weblogic
 >>like JSESSIONID.
 >> That doesn't seem to be the case. Doh! Any comments?
 >>
 >>Second. Is there a way I can tell if a browser has disabled cookies so
 >>that I can
 >>set my cookie as a temporary cookie instead of a permanent cookie so that
 >>it gets
 >>passed back to Weblogic in subsequent request? I looked at the header
 >information
 >>and I didnt' see anything.
 >>
 >>BTW. I'm developing on Windows 2000 and deploy to Unix. Using iPlanet
 >>4.1 as the
 >>WebServer and Weblogic 6.1 SP2.
 >>
 >>
 >>Thanks!!! Later...
 >>
 >>
 >>- Wayne
 >>
 >

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