Disaster Recovery in SAP ERP2005-SR1 ABAP- MSSQL.

Hello.
I am in the process of create a DR server for our SAP ERP2005-SR1 running in SQL2000 with a latest SP patch. This DR server (standby server) is going to have the same SID as my production system, but on a difference host with a difference IP address. I am planning to use a domain installation method to install this DR server. Could someone please provide me with the following information:
1. Can this be done with same <SYSID> but on the difference host, difference IP address but using domain installation method under Netweaver 2004s environment???
2. I am going to use the same <sysid>adm account to perform the same installation, is it possible???
3. Do I need to shutdown production system while I install SAP ERP 2005 on my DR server????
I hope someone could help me with the answer or provide me with the reference documentation on this issue.
Thanks in advance.
PL.

Hello Phuong,
Did similar thing for other purposes...
1. Can this be done with same <SYSID> but on the difference host, difference IP address but using domain installation method under Netweaver 2004s environment???
yes
2. I am going to use the same <sysid>adm account to perform the same installation, is it possible???
<domain>/administrator works. Not sure of <sysid>adm.
3. Do I need to shutdown production system while I install SAP ERP 2005 on my DR server????
Should not have to.
It is a lot of things to consider for a full DR solution. I would start with a Sandbox system before doing anything on PRD...
Best regards,
Victor

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    We are doing disaster recovery test for both ECC and BW systems so whole PR system switched to DR system for some time and then back to PR system. so in that case what precautions we need to take from BW side?
    Thanks
    Bhavin

  • Is anyone doing disaster recovery for a J2EE application?

    We generally use database log shipping to maintain a standby database for our ABAP instances.  We can successfully fail over our production application to our disaster recovery site with no real issues.  With the J2EE instances (EP, ESS/MSS, BI, etc), we have a few concerns:
    hostname cannot change, without going through a system copy procedure, so we would have to keep the hostnames in DR the same. (for example, ref: oss note 757692 - changing hostname is not supported)
    fully qualified domain name - from what I understand, there are potentially issues with changing the fqdn, for example SSO certificates, BSPs, XI has issues, etc.
    we can't keep both hostname and fqdn the same between DR and production, or we could never do a DR test.
    Has anyone implemented disaster recovery for any SAP J2EE application that has run into these concerns and addressed them?  Input would be greatly appreciated regarding how you addressed these issues, or how you architected your disaster recovery implementation.
    Regards,
    David Hull
    The Walt Disney Company

    I haven't done this personally, but I do have some experience with these issues in different HA environments.
    To your first point:  You can change the hostname, note 757692 tells you exactly how to do it.  However like the note says, "Changing the name of a host server in a production system is not automatically supported by SAP."  When it says "supported by SAP" I think it means SAP the company, not SAP's software.  So I would contact SAP to see if this configuration would be covered under your service agreement.  Then you have to think about whether you want to do something that isn't "officially supported" by SAP.  Also I'm sure you'll need some kind of additional licensing for the DR systems as their hardware keys will de different.
    To your second point:  As for SSO certs (SAP Login Tickets), I think they should still work as long as the SID and client number of the issuing system remain the same.  I don't think they are hostname or fqdn dependant.  For BSPs I would think they would still work as long as they use relative paths rather than absolute paths.  And for XI... I have no idea what kind of issues may arise, I'm not an XI guy.
    Again, I haven't done what you're describing myself.  This is just based on my HA experiences.
    Hope this helps a little,
    Glenn

  • Welcome to the SQL Server Disaster Recovery and Availability Forum

    (Edited 8/14/2009 to correct links - Paul)
    Hello everyone and welcome to the SQL Server Disaster Recovery and Availability forum. The goal of this Forum is to offer a gathering place for SQL Server users to discuss:
    Using backup and restore
    Using DBCC, including interpreting output from CHECKDB and related commands
    Diagnosing and recovering from hardware issues
    Planning/executing a disaster recovery and/or high-availability strategy, including choosing technologies to use
    The forum will have Microsoft experts in all these areas and so we should be able to answer any question. Hopefully everyone on the forum will contribute not only questions, but opinions and answers as well. I’m looking forward to seeing this becoming a vibrant forum.
    This post has information to help you understand what questions to post here, and where to post questions about other technologies as well as some tips to help you find answers to your questions more quickly and how to ask a good question. See you in the group!
    Paul Randal
    Lead Program Manager, SQL Storage Engine and SQL Express
    Be a good citizen of the Forum
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    What to post in this forum
    It seems obvious, but this forum is for discussion and questions around disaster recovery and availability using SQL Server. When you want to discuss something that is specific to those areas, this is the place to be. There are several other forums related to specific technologies you may be interested in, so if your question falls into one of these areas where there is a better batch of experts to answer your question, we’ll just move your post to that Forum so those experts can answer. Any alerts you set up will move with the post, so you’ll still get notification. Here are a few of the other forums that you might find interesting:
    SQL Server Setup & Upgrade – This is where to ask all your setup and upgrade related questions. (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlsetupandupgrade/threads)
    Database Mirroring – This is the best place to ask Database Mirroring how-to questions. (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqldatabasemirroring/threads)
    SQL Server Replication – If you’ve already decided to use Replication, check out this forum. (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlreplication/threads)
    SQL Server Database Engine – Great forum for general information about engine issues such as performance, FTS, etc. (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqldatabaseengine/threads)
    How to find your answer faster
    There is a wealth of information already available to help you answer your questions. Finding an answer via a few quick searches is much quicker than posting a question and waiting for an answer. Here are some great places to start your research:
    SQL Server 2005 Books Onlinne
    Search it online at http://msdn2.microsoft.com
    Download the full version of the BOL from here
    Microsoft Support Knowledge Base:
    Search it online at http://support.microsoft.com
    Search the SQL Storage Engine PM Team Blog:
    The blog is located at https://blogs.msdn.com/sqlserverstorageengine/default.aspx
    Search other SQL Forums and Web Sites:
    MSN Search: http://www.bing.com/
    Or use your favorite search engine
    How to ask a good question
    Make sure to give all the pertinent information that people will need to answer your question. Questions like “I got an IO error, any ideas?” or “What’s the best technology for me to use?” will likely go unanswered, or at best just result in a request for more information. Here are some ideas of what to include:
    For the “I got an IO error, any ideas?” scenario:
    The exact error message. (The SQL Errorlog and Windows Event Logs can be a rich source of information. See the section on error logs below.)
    What were you doing when you got the error message?
    When did this start happening?
    Any troubleshooting you’ve already done. (e.g. “I’ve already checked all the firmware and it’s up-to-date” or "I've run SQLIOStress and everything looks OK" or "I ran DBCC CHECKDB and the output is <blah>")
    Any unusual occurrences before the error occurred (e.g. someone tripped the power switch, a disk in a RAID5 array died)
    If relevant, the output from ‘DBCC CHECKDB (yourdbname) WITH ALL_ERRORMSGS, NO_INFOMSGS’
    The SQL Server version and service pack level
    For the “What’s the best technology for me to use?” scenario:
    What exactly are you trying to do? Enable local hardware redundancy? Geo-clustering? Instance-level failover? Minimize downtime during recovery from IO errors with a single-system?
    What are the SLAs (Service Level Agreements) you must meet? (e.g. an uptime percentage requirement, a minimum data-loss in the event of a disaster requirement, a maximum downtime in the event of a disaster requirement)
    What hardware restrictions do you have? (e.g. “I’m limited to a single system” or “I have several worldwide mirror sites but the size of the pipe between them is limited to X Mbps”)
    What kind of workload does you application have? (or is it a mixture of applications consolidated on a single server, each with different SLAs) How much transaction log volume is generated?
    What kind of regular maintenance does your workload demand that you perform (e.g. “the update pattern of my main table is such that fragmentation increases in the clustered index, slowing down the most common queries so there’s a need to perform some fragmentation removal regularly”)
    Finding the Logs
    You will often find more information about an error by looking in the Error and Event logs. There are two sets of logs that are interesting:
    SQL Error Log: default location: C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL.#\MSSQL\LOG (Note: The # changes depending on the ID number for the installed Instance. This is 1 for the first installation of SQL Server, but if you have mulitple instances, you will need to determine the ID number you’re working with. See the BOL for more information about Instance ID numbers.)
    Windows Event Log: Go to the Event Viewer in the Administrative Tools section of the Start Menu. The System event log will show details of IO subsystem problems. The Application event log will show details of SQL Server problems.

    hi,I have a question on sql database high availability. I have tried using database mirroring, where I am using sql standard edition, in this database mirroring of synchronous mode is the only option available, and it is giving problem, like sql time out errors on my applicatons since i had put in the database mirroring, as asynchronous is only available on enterprise version, is there any suggestions on this. thanks ---vijay

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