Discount/surcharge condition type

Hello,
would please advise me how to resolve the following situation.
I have two condition type in pricing procedure.
one of them is PR00 a quantity base cond. type. for base price calculation.
and the second one is a discount.
I would like to prevent discount condition type determination in case of base price (PB00) cond. type isn't determined in pricing procedure
Is it possibly to solve it without creation a routine?
Thank's a lot
Kind regards
Vitaly

Is there other way to solve it without routine creation.?
What do you mean under "it will improve perfomance"?
I was thinking about condition supplement but this is not exacty what I would like to have.

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