Discoverer Desktop Support

Does anybody know if Oracle will contunue to support discoverer desktop in 10.1.2.3 and beyond or will it be replaced by Plus?

Hi
For the foreseeable future Desktop will be here. It is part of the Tools install along with Administrator. Even in Discoverer 11g there will be a Desktop tool because you use the same 10.1.2.3 toolset and the EUL does not change. Later on I can see the day that Desktop is dropped but we have been discussing this for a long time, even before 10g came out, and it is still available. What you will notice though is that Desktop has not been enhanced as Plus has been.
Therefore, perhaps a better question should be: "Should I continue using Desktop now that Plus is available?"
My answer here is 100% NO. You should not continue working with Desktop now that Plus is available. Plus is such a better tool with many additional capabilities. A couple of years ago I won the prize for best paper at the ODTUG 2005 conference for my presentation on what is new in Plus. That paper is available for free from my downloads page here: http://ascbi.com/downloads.htm The paper is called DRAKEFIRSTLOOK and you will find it about two thirds of the way down the page.
Here's another little tip that many people are not aware of. Let's say you have got 25 users using Desktop today. Your investment in licenses is at least $25,000 which you will be concerned about losing should you convert to Plus. I can tell you from experience that most Oracle sales reps will let you apply the vast majority of that cost against an application server license. It's just not an option that is widely discussed. You will of course have to pay maintenance and support on the new version but if you work the discussion right you can get licenses cheaper than you thought, which will then bring you up onto the latest version complete with its frequent release of cumulative patches.
I hope this helps
Best wishes
Michael

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name:OraHome92
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'Oracle 82 beta'.It cann't be used as an oracle home for nt."
I have oracle 9i and form6i,report 6i installed in my system.
Please suggest me ..
Regards,
Satya

Hi
The easiest way to get a fully working TNSNAMES in a version 4 environment is to use the Net 8 Configuration utility.
Here's a workflow:
1. From the Start button, select Start | Oracle for Windows NT | Oracle Net8 Easy Config
2. When it starts, check Add New Service and in the little box to the right type the name by which you want this connection to be known
3. Click the Next button
4. Select TCP/IP (Internet Protocol) and click the Next button
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6. In Port, enter the port number - it defaults to 1521
7. Click the Next button
8.In Database SID enter the name of the database, then click the Next button
9.Click the Test Service button
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13. Click the Next button
14. Click the Finish button
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Michael

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Hi all;
I have problem. I can login Discoverer Administrator from my localmachine and i can see what ppl did it there.. But when i try to login Discoverer Desktop from my localmachine its gives me Invalid Username/Pass. error.
I even cant login my system from browser :
http://xx.com:7778/discoverer/plus << pages comes and i fill in the blanks area like:
Connect to : Oracle Application
Username: sysadmin
pass: ***
Database: VIS
I found some document from forums. Whihc is :
Discoverer Is Unable to Connect to Oracle Applications database: invalid username/password Doc ID: Note:467919.1
Discoverer 10g (10.1.2) Connectons To Oracle E-Business Suite 12 Fails With 'Invalid Username/Password' Doc ID: Note:443661.1
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Any idea;
Regards
Helios

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Maybe the easiest workaround is to use a custom table, and it work like this:
1. A database logon trigger or EUL post logon trigger would check the client_identier and get the organisation.
2. The organisation should then be stored in a database context. It is quicker than using a package variable.
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I appreciate that the details are a bit sketchy but hopefully this has given you some ideas.
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Can anyone working on 10g tell me, whether Disco 10g allows the use of Inline queries while working with Discoverer Desktop & importing SQL.
I am currently working on 4 & it doesn't allow.
Thanks

Thanks for your reply Steve, I am agree with you on your explanation. But still there are situations when you need to have alternate solutions.
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TIA.

Hi,
i believe many people would not have used this feature . Please contact Oracle support through a service request . they will defnetly help you
Thanks
Naga

Discoverer Desktop in future releases

Hello all,
Will Discoverer Desktop be available in future releases?
Thanks,
Andrea

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Hello
11.1.1.3 is fine. The EUL is the same and there are no changes in the Admin tool.
Best wishes
Michael

Will Discoverer Desktop work on Vista?

Are there any plans to release a new version of Oracle Discoverer Desktop that works on Windows Vista.
Thanks in advance

Hi Danko,
Even I came across Oracle and other websites reg Discoverer plus on Vista,
as of now this release doesn't support Vista yet except support for webtools like plus and viewer.
According to info from Oracle and other blogs and news, other releases of discoverer 10.1.2.3 or Discoverer 11g may support Windows Vista. may be we should be on latest release of AS10g or need to apply any patches by that time I guess, will wait and see.
As Oracle always constantly keep changing product versions, release numbers etc , we shoule be on track up to date :)
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As a part of Upgrade project we are migrating the discoverer reports from 11i (11.5.10.2) to R12 (12.1.3) .After migrating to R12, for a custom discoverer report the output given by discoverer desktop is correct (24 rows for a scenario). But the report output from Discoverer plus does not show the credit transactions (2 rows). The output from Discoverer plus shows only 22 rows (24 - 2), which is incorrect. The query is the same in Discoverer desktop and Discoverer plus.
Please let me know why these transactions that are appearing when the report is run from discoverer desktop are not appearing in discoverer plus. Is there any setup in discoverer plus for this?
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Brajesh

Pretty hard to answer a question like this. Best bet would be to copy the existing discoverer plus book and start removing conditions, fields, etc until those two rows from desktop show up and see if you can work it out.

Checkbox in discoverer desktop edition

Hi,
The query we are executing created for cross tab report have plenty of views and is returning null data which needs apps intialization which cannot be done from discoverer.
I think loging into Discoverer desktop edition with oracle applications user would resolve the same.
I have checked the checkbox in desktop edition and logged in as operations/welcome. but it is showing as invalid user name /password.
please help in setup that must required to check and login to oracle applications user. Also Provide if there is any alternative.
I would be very much thankful if you could help me on this.
Best Regards,
Katty.
Edited by: karthik.thadakamalla on May 10, 2009 11:49 PM

Hi,
The apps initialization can be done by Discoverer provided that you are connecting to an Apps mode EUL with an applications username and password.
You must specify that you want an Apps mode EUL when the EUL is created. Then when you connect to Disco Admin as the owner of the EUL you will be able to grant access privs and security to the Application users and responsbilities.
If you have an apps mode EUL and still get an invalid username/password then this could be because the application is running in secure mode. Then you need to copy the .dbc file to a local directory. Search this forum for details on how to do this.
Rod West

Discoverer Desktop crash

When trying to open a report created by a colleague, Discoverer immediately throws a Windows (Vista 32Bit) error that "Oracle Discoverer Desktop has stopped working". I click close program, and Discoverer closes. It's a very simple report so I recreated it yesterday, ran it fine, could change parameters for different outputs, no problems. This morning I log in and when trying to open the newly created report from yesterday, same error. No exception, no memory pointers, nothing, just the Win error that it has stopped working.
Anyone seen this before? Running Discoverer Desktop v 10.1.2.3 Client v 10.1.2.55.26.

My colleague was able to open and modify the report that I created without issue so I suspect the report is alright, perhaps my installation? Odd that I can run many other reports just fine in the same environment and that this one ran fine from development, but as soon as I closed it to reopen, no luck.

Discoverer Desktop Issues 10.1.2

Hi,
I am using Discoverer Admin and Desktop both of Verions 10.1.2
I have no issue with Admin; I could do successfully all the work here.
In Desktop i have login successfully as Application user; and created simple Order Report workbook (Order_Report.DIS) and saved it.
Again when i login as application user in desktop; When i try to open my existing workbook (Order_Report.DIS); It will prompt me
Do you want to run the query for the sheet Ord_report; Yes/No; If i select option as Yes i am getting error mesg as Failed to connect to database; If i choose No I will get empty sheet; In either case I will see empty sheet appears; From the Tool Bar if i select Sheet --> Refersh Sheet; I am able to see records in my sheet.
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Uday

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I have the same issue with Discoverer Plus 10g Rel 1 (10.2.0.2 )
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Also, this is not reproducible. Sometimes it works very smoothly, but sometimes it gives error for the same report.
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Thanks!
Yogini

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1. I'm bringing in a customer id field which I convert with a to_char in the query from a numeric field. Most of them are 5-digit, but some are 4. I notice in the x-axis the customer id's appear only for the 5 digit id's, and for the 4-digit ones the identifier appears. i.e. if the 5th record has an id of 1508, instead of displaying 1508 it displays 5. Does anyone know how to correct this?
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Hi paul,
Its a good idea to upgrade from 4i to 10g 4i is no more used by many and their are some issues or bugs with it.The latest version is 11g which has been released 1 week back.If not go with 10g version available.
1) Do all reports have to be stored on the database to allow them to be accessed by Plus or Viewer? Can only the 10G client version open files from a local hardrive or shared network drive?Yes they have to stored in the database so any ened user can access them from plus or viewer.
Can only one report be open at any given time with Plus or Viewer? In client it is possible to have 2 reports open at the same time to facilitate easier comparisons.Yes,if the reports are registered as different reports and if the end user has access to both the reports thn he can open and compare it OR if both reports are in same workbook as different sheets than its easy to view or compare.
NULL values are still showing the word "NULL" even though in Tools Options we have set it to show blank, existing reports are still using the NULL value.It should show blank,might be some problem.In discoverer 10g i think you will not find this issues.
Hope this helps you.
Best Wishes,
kranthi.

Discoverer Desktop 10.1.2 error while opening the report.

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Radhakrishna

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