Distributing Java MSI

Hi,
I've got problems distributing the sun java 5 on windows XP sp 2 clients
pc's when using the MSI it will only install whe the user has
administrative rights. I've associated the application object to the
workstation with force run but it does not install also tried settings
from secure user but still no result. We've got other msi's that run
without a problem. Can one one help me with this one?
Thanks in advance,
Sebastiaan.

Depends on how the MSI app is designed.
Primarily it has to do with some MSI's launch secondary processes that are
run outside of Windows Installer and hence loose the elevated rights that
Windows installer uses. Basically poor MSI design.
Craig Wilson
Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
Master CNE, MCSE 2003, CCNA
Editor - http://www.ithowto.com
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> I've tried the option of running as unsecure system user and made it a
> application that runs msiexec /i java.msi transforms=java.msi
> REBOOT=REALLYSUPPRESS /qn. and it worked. Thanks for the tip. Still wonder
> why this MSI doesn't work like all others i have.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sebastiaan.
>
>> I've used snapshot on the Java MSI because I too found the MSI install
> was
>> not always 100% reliable.
>> Did you check the option for Forcue-Run as User when Workstation
> Associated?
>> This will delay the install of the MSI until a user logs on which may
> help.
>> This does not change the impersonation to user impersonation.
>>
>> Did you try running MSIEXEC /i JAVA.MSI /QB- as an unsecure system user?
>>
>> --
>> Craig Wilson
>> Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
>> Master CNE, MCSE 2003, CCNA
>>
>> Editor - http://www.ithowto.com
>>
>> (Seeking Full-Time Expert? Drop me a note :> )
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've got problems distributing the sun java 5 on windows XP sp 2
> clients
>> > pc's when using the MSI it will only install whe the user has
>> > administrative rights. I've associated the application object to the
>> > workstation with force run but it does not install also tried settings
>> > from secure user but still no result. We've got other msi's that run
>> > without a problem. Can one one help me with this one?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Sebastiaan.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

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Christian

Vibe 3.3 and Java 7 Update 51

We have been running Vibe 3.3 for quite some time now and havent had really issues with it. But since the latest Java Update things went wrong. Before that update, if we opened a file out of Vibe (via "Edit this file") to edit, a Java warning (like this one http://www.java.com/en/download/help...variations.xml) was shown but if you accepted it, everything worked. After the latest JRE update to version 7 Update 51 we still get that Java warning but after accepting it, nothing happens.
After some research I found updated java applets for Vibe and installed them as mentioned here: http://download.novell.com/Download?...d=IjdLuwODIJM~
As you can guess, it didnt fix the problem.
So any idea and help is highly appreciated

Thanks for the hints, you got me in the right direction. In fact it seems as if the Java certificate Vibe uses is incomplete and since Java 7U51 it is blocked. If the Vibe Office Addin is used you dont even notice that there is a problem as the addin issnt using Java, but if you use a browser to work with your files you get hit by that Java problem.
After I did some research I found a blog with a description how to distribute Java Security Configuration via GPO which pointed me an (compared with that GPO thing) easy solution. I setup my Java Config on one client using the possibility with Java 7U51 to specify exception sites and entered my Vibe adress to teh exception list. Made a copy of the exception.sites file which is located within the user Profile (%USERPROFILE%\APPDATA\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deploymen t\security\exception.sites) (The file only exists if you alter the configuration with the Java Control panel), placed it on a share and deploy it using ZCM to every client.
Works fine for clients within the institute, everyone who wants access from outside needs to alter his configuration manually. It would be great to see an update from Novell adressing this issue, as the main issue seems to be an incomplete Novell Security Certificate.

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