*.dng in Photoshop CS 8.0

How does Photoshop CS 8.0 learn do handle *.dng?

I suppose it could easily be Photoshop 8 (CS) Wikipedia says CS introduced:
Camera RAW 2.x
Highly modified "Slice Tool"
Shadow/Highlight command
Match Color command
Lens Blur filter
Smart Guides
Real-Time Histogram
Detection and refusal to print scanned images of various banknotes[3]
Macrovision copy protection based on Safecast DRM technology
Scripting support for JavaScript and other languages
Hierarchical layer groups
16 bit per channel layers, painting, and adjustments
Support for files over 2 Gigabytes
Documents up to 300,000 pixels in either dimension
Type on a path
I think you need ACR 2.3 for DNG support
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2609

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Saving DNG as a DNG in Photoshop CS4

Hi,
So I've converted a bunch of raw files to dng. I then did my edits in photoshop cs4, cloning, cropping, etc. What I'd like to do next is save the file as a dng in photoshop and then continue some editing in Lightroom. It seems to me that PS CS4 will not give me the option to save it as a DNG file. What am I missing?
I tried to save it as a .RAW but it gave me a wierd message about the file may not be able to be opened, or words to that effect. What can I do? Appreciate the help.

I'm using still CS2. Here it is possible to manipulate a DNG in ACR
and save it from there as a new DNG.
Save > Save Options > Format > Digital Negative
It's not possible to save an arbitrary file as DNG from Photoshop,
probably because metadata are missing.
Photoshop RAW has nothing to do with Camera Raw. It is a simple
file format which can contain image data, but the header is not complete,
therefore it can be interpreted only by the person who had packed the
image data into the file.
On this occasion I would like to thank Adobe for the free DNG converter
and the concept behind: I can use a very new camera together with
ACR in my old program CS2 by copying flashcard Raw data immediately
as DNG to the harddisk.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

SAVE or SAVE AS a DNG in Photoshop CS5?

I have gotten two different responses from Adobe as to wheter the DNG file format should be an option for saving in Photoshop CS5. Looking at some of the help topics it appears that it should be, and I chatted with a rep from Adobe who stated that the option should be there. The Adobe Rep gave me the number to call for tech support. I called tech support (sounded like I was talking to someone in India) to determine why my installation was not giving me that option. Initially tech support stated that it should be an option, then he went off (put me on hold) to see how we could fix the problem. When he came back, he said I should just use the Adobe RAW file extension and that DNG is not a saving option.
Can anyone else confirm whether or not I should be able to use the SAVE or SAVE AS command to save a file in the DNG format?

Save your file as a tiff file, to keep all the data. In photoshop use the file>open as. In the file type drop down box, select camera raw as the type. Select your tiff file and your tiff will load into camera raw. Now at the box left of the camera raw dialog box, select the save as button. In the pop up window you can now select dng for the file type.

How to edit DNG in Photoshop after adjustments but without them?

Ok, this might seem a stupid question but let me properly explain...
Just to make it clear, I now know I cannot edit a DNG directly in Photoshop, this must be converted to TIFF and that one can be edited and imported back into Lightroom.
I've read many posts where people tend to all LR adjustments and then go to PS for the final touches, but I prefer the other way around, PS first for any pixel editing and LR to finish the image. But I have two problems this simply because I forgot to edit some image in PS before making my LR adjustments. The only thing I wanted to do in PS was to remove some sensor dust I didn't notice before.
The problem is that I have now finished all my LR adjustments and I can't find a proper way to edit the original (without LR adjustments). When I open the context menu in LR and select Edit » Photoshop, all LR adjustments will be processed and the TIFF file generated will have them.
Q1: Isn't there a way to edit a DNG file in Photoshop without LR adjustments just like we can do it for any other type of file that is not some sort of RAW file?
To answer my own question, the only way I found to do this was to preset the Reset button in the Develop module in LR and then to Edit » Photoshop. This will work but it's a little bit clumsy, anyway to avoid this or is it my only option?
Let's say I do it like that anyway. I'm now with the original untouched DNG file converted to TIFF opened in Photoshop, I do all my pixel editing and save the file. This TIFF file will be automatically imported into Lightroom so I can do any final touches. Since I did a "reset" and the image edited in Photoshop was the original untouched by LR, I now need to do all my editing in LR all over again.
I though of simply copying all develop settings from the old original DNG into the new converted TIFF. But this doesn't work, the files are different, the same settings do not work for these 2 different fle types. The image looks completetly different.
Q2: How can I fix this without playing with all the sliders again to achieve the same look?
I've been done this road before and it was a painful process, in the end, I was not able to get the same exact result.
EDIT: I did not mention the spot removal tool because I wasn't getting very good results with it, it doesn't work as good as Photoshop's tools. The sensor dust was in the sky and very close to some clouds, selecting the whole thing was not working. After some time, I added 5 spot removals and was able to properly clean the sky of that dust. Still would love to hear opinions on my questions above.

Not it's not, it's my workflow, why don't you understand that? If I want to edit in PS first, well, that's my decision, you are assuming I want to keep the RAW data intact and if I wanted yes, my workflow would be wrong because I couldn't do it like that, but I don't want to keep it. Actually, in a perfect world, I would want to be able to keep RAW data and do som pixel editing in the same file, but this is not a perfect world so I'm fine in losing the RAW data. I never stated that but I though it was implicit the way I described my workflow.
I already knew everything you said in your post, nothing new there.
"You really can't move back and forth it one direction only..."
Like I said, I'm not looking moving back and forth, I don't think yous guys are understanding my question properly. Let's take another approach to see if you guys understand it better. I shot some photo in RAW and converted it to JPG (yes JPG), I've now lost any RAW data. However, I like to keep my files in DNG (DNG is a container so I can do that) and convert the JPG file into a DNG. I know have my "master" file as a JPG file in a DNG container.
I start to do some editing in LR in my master file but I forgot to remove the dust on Photoshop and now I need someway to open the original in Photoshop to remove it, because I don't want to lose all my LR adjustments, I want to edit the original and keep my LR adjustments. But even if the file inside the DNG container is a JPG file, since the file format is DNG, I don't have the option to Edit without LR adjustments when I chose Edit » Photoshop. As soon as I do that, the DNG file will be opened in PS with all LR adjustments, but this file is actually a JPG, there's no RAW data anymore. The only way to edit the original file like this is to "reset" all LR adjustments before going pressing the edit context menu option and then copy back all settings from a to b.
Now, this will work just fine because the original file is no longer RAW data, but linear data (I think it's called like this? what I mean, is a JPG, not RAW; i'll call it like this from now on, sorry if this is wrong) and so the settings can be copied at will from one file to ther other without any problems. After a bit of research I read around this forums that LR settings differ slightly if the original file is RAW data or linear data. For instance, the middle point for Temperature is actually 0 for JPG files but if it's a RAW file, it's something like 6500K (not necessarily this, just an example), and that means I can't copy the settings back and forth with a copy/paste.
So, to recapitulate...
My original image is now linear data (JPG) not RAW and saved into a DNG container and since it's a DNG container I cannot open the context menu Edit » Photoshop » Without LR Adjustments. Why? Is there any other any way around it or there's nothing I can besides making a reset or saving a snapshot in LR with the original settings so I can open them at will in PS and then copy the settings from a to b. I just don't understand why there isn't an option, for DNG files, to open it without all LR adjustments like all other files. It's actually a JPG file inside, not RAW data, so, why not? But even if it was RAW data, there could be such an option to. I mean, when you have RAW data and press Edit » Photoshop, the file will be demosaiced (or whatever it's called) and opened in PS, when you save it, it will be saved as TIFF. So why isn't there an option to demosaic the original file without LR adjustments.
As to my second question, I guess there's no way to solve it either. The data on each file is different and the sliders behave differently so there's not way to copy the settings from a file to another if the saved data is not of the same type. And there's also no way to "convert" the settings from one file to the other, or is there? That was actually my question, if there was a way to copy/convert the settings from a RAW file into a linear file so I don't have to move all the sliders all over again and try to achieve the same goal. But after a quick search around the forums, I found a related question and I guess there's no way to do it.

LR 4.1 RC 2 opening DNGs in Photoshop

I am getting really frustrated as all of a sudden Lightroom has started opening the original DNG files for editing in Photoshop (CS5) instead of creating a TIFF file and editing that. I have checked all my settings and it still specifies TIFF as the edited file, it just doesn't work. I have tried restarting everything (computer, LR, PS) and every once in a while it will use a TIFF file, but 99 times out of a 100 it opens the DNG itself. The only think that has changed recently is that I updated to LR 4.1 RC 2 (previously had RC 1) - although I think it still worked after this update. Then I updated Adobe Camera Raw to 6.7... does anyone know if this is causing the problem and if so, how I can fix it?

Is the DNG opened in PS as a normal picture (not in the ACR dialoge!) with the title "xyz.DNG"? If that is the case, it is actually correct. When LR detects a compatible ACR (which happened after you installed ACR 6.7), it will pass the raw/DNG directly to PS without rendering a TIFF on its own. The file name indicated by photoshop is the original raw/DNG file then.
When you save the picture in photoshop, it will create the actual image file using the file type and other options (color space, bit depth...) you configured in Lightroom. So the outcome of the whole "edit in..." action is exactly what you want, with Photoshop creating the image file at the time you save it.
P.S. What happened before updating to ACR 6.7 was that probably sometimes before, the ACR compatibility warning dialog appeared and you chose "render using lightroom", causing LR to produce the TIFF file on its own and Photoshop to load that TIFF file, and consequently also displaying "xyz.TIFF". Now that LR considers ACR 6.7 as compatible, that behaviour is replaced with the new behaviour as described above - and the warning dialog no longer appears.

Making small edits to a DNG in Photoshop

Hey there, I have a very simple question!
•Is it possible to edit a DNG file (using Lightroom's "edit in" option) in Photoshop CS3 while still keeping all of the image data intact?
e.g. I go to edit a DNG file.. right click image>edit in>CS3. TIFF / 16-bit / ProPhoto RGB file handling options. I do whatever it is that I need to do in CS3 cloning and blurring and save the file which then creates a copy in Lightroom. When I edit this copy in Lightroom it doesn't hold all of the information it use to..meaning there's nothing that can be brought out in deep shadow or blown out highlights; whereas if I was working with the DNG/RAW file I could just under or overexpose and there would be something to work with.
I hope this is clear! Thanks,
-jope

This is to be expected. RAW files usually have some headroom left over above white since usually not all three channels are completely blown out and you can still recover some info from them and reconstruct blown out areas, which is what Lightroom does with the RAW file. On the shadows side, there is usually a lot of info hiding that you can bring out by several methods such as exposure compensation, Fill light, lowering the blacks, etc.. Rendered files such as tiff however, do not have this headroom. White is white, and black is black. Nothing you can do when a pixel is all black or all white. So as soon as you bring your file into Photoshop, you are stuck with the rendering you had. Sometimes you can get around this by using smart objects in Photoshop, but not all operations (such as cloning and healing indeed!) can be done on smart objects.

Editing a DNG file and saving it again as DNG using Photoshop

Hi everyone,
I have a set of .dng raw images which I would like to edit using Photoshop and save back out as .dng files. It sounds like a very simple task, but I have been struggling with this for half a day.
To give a concrete example, I have two dng images from the same camera. I want to copy an object from one image and paste it to the other, and then save out the output as a .dng file. This should take me like 2 minutes in Photoshop, right?
Well, when I open the files, it first brings up the Adobe Camera Raw tool, but this only lets me do very basic edits (I can't figure out how to copy an object from one image to another, let alone perform the necessary edits to blend them seamlessly.).
So I click "Open Image" to get them into Photoshop, where I can do all of my necessary edits (copy and paste, brushes, etc.). However, after I am finished and I try to save my edits, Photoshop only lets me save the output in .psd (along with other formats) but not dng. I need to save it back out as .dng, as the next program in our workflow pipeline requires .dng files as input. So how do I do this simple task?
Why can't I save my resulting image back out as a .dng file? I tried saving as .psd and then using Adobe DNG converter to turn it into a dng, but it doesn't seem to be able to do that. I also tried saving as Photoshop RAW, but for some reason the converter can't convert from Photoshop RAW to DNG. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I know that Photoshop knows my camera parameters because it was able to read the original dng files properly in the first place. So why can't I read in the .dng image make some edits and then save it? How are people editing dng files?
Thanks for your help.

Also, there is no way to turn an image back into raw image data after it has been edited in Photoshop. It would be as difficult as uncooking an egg.
I understand that this is difficult if I am doing arbitrary image editing operations, since those operations may not be properly defined in the RAW space. But in this case I am cloning pixels from one .dng image to another. Shouldn't this be possible?
For example, assume we have 2 dng images and we want to take the left half of one and paste it in the same position over the other. I am not familiar with the dng spec, but at some level it should encode the values at each pixel (perhaps with the appropriate camera curve). So I just simply want to overwrite the values of one .dng image with values at the same pixels of the other, and since it's the same camera with the same settings used for both this should be possible, right? In the worst case, I could write a program based on the DNG spec that parses the two dng files, overwrites the necessary pixel information simply using the second image's data, and then writes the dng back out. But this seems like a complicated way to do something that there should be an Adobe tool to do.
Perhaps it would help if I tell you exactly why I need this for. We are capturing raw video using the Blackmagic Cinema Camera which outputs a directory full of 2.5k dng images for each take. We were doing a take of a scene using a tripod, but an otherwise great take was ruined because at one point a crew member poked their head into frame. So I want to use information from the other dng frames to overwrite this portion of this image to hide this problem.
If these were regular images (.jpg, .tif, .exr) it would take us no time in Photoshop to use the information from the other "good" frames to fix this problem seamlessly. However, we would like to keep everything in dng format so that I can then read everything into DaVinci Resolve for color grading correctly. Any idea on how I can do this, if I can't use Photoshop?
Thank you in advance for your help!

DNG in Photoshop V6.0

Hi I have an Olympus E-520 and I have just downloaded the DNG converter. I cant get my version of Photoshop 6.0 to read these DNG 5.4 files. Am I missing something, do I need to download an update to my version of Photoshop?
I tried 'open as' and although PS could 'see' the files it just opened up a grey mass that made no sense after getting the software to guess size etc.
Any Ideas anyone?

ardy01 wrote:
Thanks for this reply. I spent a VERY frustrating 5 hours on this yesterday and got nowhere so you may be right. V6.0.1 took the plugin that I down loaded from the Olympus site (this was my last move) and Olympus claimed it worked on V6 upwards, of course it didnt work, PS did recognise the files just wouldnt load them.
When you open a new file in PS there is a RAW option but this doesnt prove anything.
Having been through DNG 1.3 and 1.1 and then several other options and getting nowhere I am starting to think that an upgrade might be less pain.
I think we need some clarification here. Are you in fact talking about Photoshop 6, or are you talking about Photoshop Elements 6? There is a big difference. Camera Raw will work with Photoshop Elements 6, but it will not work at all with Photoshop 6.

Save as DNG in Photoshop when editing from Lightroom

When transfering from Lightroom 2 to Photoshop CS3 (Windows) and after editing as a smart object in Photoshop how do I save the file back into Lightroom as a DNG file

You cannot save DNG files from photoshop. This is because DNG lacks the support for the features you need.

Adobe dng and Photoshop Elements Workflow Question

My camera isn't supported by the Camera Raw for the PSE version that I have so I must convert the original raws into dngs using the DNG Converter.
Since the converterr doesn't operate on a file but only on a folder basis, I find that a workflow involves converting all the raws in a folder first and that nearly doubles the storage required. But in any one folder I might have only a few raws that I am actually interested in. But I don't see that there is any way to be working in PSE come across a file (using the jpeg image) that I want to work with and then convert just that image. This would be a better workflow and save a lot of space.
The alternative seems to involve running though all the folders, noting the image numbers and then moving all those raws to a new folder and convert it before I can sit down to serious work.
Any suggestions on how to have a smoother process?
Thanks.

You're making it much more complicated than it has to be. If you make a shortcut for the DNG converter on your windows desktop or for a mac, a desktop alias or put the converter in the Dock, you can just drop a single file on it. The converter will open and you can ignore the stuff in the window except for the destination for the converted file, and click Convert.

Is it possible to edit a DNG file in Photoshop and get back to Lightroom?

Hi,
The question title probably doesn't explain much what I'm looking for...
I shot in RAW and then converted to DNG, I like DNG and I can't understand what so many people have against it, anyway that's not the point...
I know have the DNG as my digital negative instead of the original RAW file and I start to do some editing in Lightroom. But then I realized that Lightroom is not enough for something I want to do. For instance, just today I had this picture I needed to remove some people and I had to use heal/clone but as you know, Lightroom's clone and heal features are not as flexible as Photoshop ones.
So now I needed to go into Photoshop, fix the photo and get back to Lightroom and continue my editing. However, I couldn't find a way to do it how I wanted to do... What I did was open the original (unedited) DNG in Photoshop, Adobe Camera Raw pops up and I ignore it, remove the people from the photo and save as TIFF. Then, back in Lightroom I open the new edited TIFF and copy Lightroom's settings from one photo (the DNG) to the other (the edited TIFF).
This workflow sucks and I know there are some options in Lightroom to automate it, but still, I don't think it would solve my problem. At least I couldn't find a way to do it...
What I wanted to do instead was to indeed remove that people from the photo with Photoshop but keep those changes in DNG. But take a note here that those changes could very much be destructive, I'm not talking about ACR or Lightroom's non-destructive editing, the removed people would be gone forever unless I draw some new ones. I really wanted to edit and save some changes on the DNG in Photoshop and keep editing the DNG in Lightroom without using a TIFF in between, do everything in the DNG.
Is this possible or not at all?

Ricardo.Amaral wrote:
What I wanted to do instead was to indeed remove that people from the photo with Photoshop but keep those changes in DNG.
sorry, no can do...ain't gonna happen.
What you've done is hit the wall on is the basic difference between lite duty spot healing and photo level tone and color correction (Lightroom and Camera Raw) and heavy duty pixel retouching in Photoshop.
When you need to substantially manipulate the "pixels" you need Photoshop and you'll be forced to render the raw file into a TIFF or PSD file either through Camera Raw or more better, via Lightroom.
You can do the basic tone and color correction directly in Lightroom and edit in Photoshop from Lightroom. But you will NEED to create and save out a "rendered" image that is no longer raw...then retouch to your heart's desire, save it and it'll be available in Lightroom along side your original raw if you choose.
But no, there's no way to open a raw in Photoshop, manipulate the heck out of it with massive retouching then save that back out as a raw file...ain't gonna happen.

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I am unable to open raw files taken on my Canon Rebel T1i in my version of Photoshop CS3. When I import raw files into Bridge they come up as patches with CR2 on them and when clicked on, a notice comes up stating that Photoshop does not recognize these files. I tried to update my Adobe Camera Raw by downloading version 4.6 from the Adobe Website, but when I clicked on the plus-in, I got another message that Photoshop does not recognize this file. I spoke with a representative from Canon who said that I could not update CS3 and that I should subscribe to the Cloud. I would prefer to use my CS3, if possible. Can anyone advise me what to do?

The T1i was first supported by Camera Raw 5.4 which is only compatible with CS4 and later
Camera Raw plug-in | Supported cameras
Camera Raw-compatible Adobe applications
Some options:
Upgrade to CS6
Join the Cloud
Download the free Adobe DNG converter, convert all T1i Raw files to DNGs then edit the DNGs in CS3
Camera raw, DNG | Adobe Photoshop CC

Open as Smart Object as Layers in Photoshop?

I apologize if this has been addressed already, but I am looking for a way to open Smart Objects as LAYERS. I do compositing work and would like to retain as much information as possible by using Smart Objects PRIOR to going into Photoshop. My current workflow is to highlight the photos in Lightroom CC > Open as Smart Object in Photoshop CC > Manually Drag layers from each open file in Photoshop to main PSD.
Edit - Opening as Layers in Photoshop then applying the Camera Raw Filter is not a good work around, information is lost.

davepinminn wrote:
I must still be doing something wrong here..............
You have the wrong expectation—namely because you don't grasp the concept. A smart object is not a linked file. It's a new file all on its own (in PSB format) with no connection to the original file at all.
davepinminn wrote:
…I can open my raw (.dng) into Photoshop as a smart object. And in PS, I can open the smart object into ACR. Works fine. And I can change stuff. For example, if I change the exposure from -.25 to +.20, it changes perfectly in PS, as I'd expect. But, I'm still not getting the changes back to the original raw (.dng) file…
There is no reason why the changes made to a Smart Object oject should be refleftef to a totally unrelated file.
davepinminn wrote:
…Do I need to do something different to get the changes back to the original file…
Yes. you have to go back to that original file and apply the changes directly to it. In a previous post, Jeff Schewe told you of a shortcut to achieve that:
Jeff Schewe wrote:
When you are in the Camera Raw SO with ACR open, go to the main flyout menu and select Export settings to XMP. This will write the new image settings from the SO to the xmp metadata. Then in Lightroom, select Read metadata from file in the main Metadata menu. That will bring in all the settings of the raw SO back into Lightroom. So, while not automatic, it's not as bad as writing down the settings and entering them by hand.

Hi I have a question about shooting in Raw with my Canon EOS 6d. I'm in the process of learning photography and my goal was to start shooting in raw. I have Photoshop CS5. When I tried to edit my images in raw I received an error message stating, "The pho

Hi I have a question about shooting in Raw with my Canon EOS 6d.
I'm in the process of learning photography and my goal was to start shooting in raw.
I have Photoshop CS5. When I tried to edit my images in raw I received an error message stating, "The photoshop camera raw plug-in did not recognize the format. If these files are from a camera, you may need to update your camera raw plug in."
In researching the issue I read that to edit in raw you need a camera model requirement of at least 7.3 which only works with CS6. My version of CS5 is 6.0.0.205. Being new to all this I see that my options are to upgrade to CS6 or convert by using DNG converter and paying a monthly fee. Two things I know nothing about and don't know which is would be more beneficial.
I'd appreciate any advise on which route to go and how upgrade and what it may cost. THANKS in advance!
Heather

In researching the issue I read that to edit in raw you need a camera model requirement of at least 7.3 which only works with CS6.
That is correct. Your camera was first supported by Camera Raw 7.3. Camera Raw 7.3 will not work with CS5. You need CS6 or CC.
Being new to all this I see that my options are to upgrade to CS6 or convert by using DNG converter and paying a monthly fee. Two things I know nothing about and don't know which is would be more beneficial.
I'd appreciate any advise on which route to go and how upgrade and what it may cost.
It all depends on your preferred workflow and your budget.
Using the DNG converter is free. There is no monthly fee. You use the converter to convert all Raw files from the EOS 6D to DNGs then edit the DNGs in CS5. That's an extra step every time - every photo. Some people don't like the extra step. Others don't mind.
Camera raw, DNG | Adobe Photoshop CC
Or you can upgrade to CS6 (non-Cloud) and pay the upgrade fee
Creative Suite 6
Or join the Cloud and pay the monthly fee
Or join the Photoshop Photography Program (US9.99/month) and get PS CC+LR

Photoshop CS2 and Canon 6D

I have been shooting with a Canon Rebel t2i and will be updating to a Canon 6D in a few months. I was wondering if my Photoshop CS4 will be able to still open and edit RAW files with an updated camera.

Refer to these two tables
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/camera-raw-compatible-applications.html
Short answer:
The T2i is supported in Camera Raw 6.1 and later which is compatible with Photoshop CS5 and later
The 6D is supported in Camera Raw 7.3 and later which is compatible with Photoshop CS6 and later
So neither CS2 (per your subject header) nor CS4 (per your post) can open Raw files from either camera.
However you can download the free Adobe DNG converter, convert all the Raw files to DNGs then open the DNGs in Photoshop
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/extend.displayTab2.html

*.dng in Photoshop CS 8.0

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