Downgrade from OSX Server to NON_SERVER

Hi, upon recommendation of an Apple employee friend I bought the OSX server 2 years ago. I would like to downgrade to the non-server version. I currently run OS X 10.4.11 Server. I would like to be running the non-server OS. I have a 10.5 upgrade/install disk that I will use when I have a non-server OS to upgrade (but currently the upgrade will not allow me to upgrade from osx-server).
In the past 2 years I have added tons of software and configuration. To rebuild my machine from scratch may take a week and I still wont have all the settings I currently use and need. So I want to avoid a fresh install of the non-server OS.
Is there a way to do this? Whether following apple rules or perhaps just tweaking a file somewhere that makes the OS think its non-server? I am very comfortable editing files and using bash etc.
I would like to trick the OS into thinking it is non-server so that I can use my Leapord install disk to upgrade me to 10.5 non-server.
Any ideas here? Before I rebuild my entire system from scratch?

That would likely work, but the OP wants to retain all his customization, and some of that will be in the (admin) user sandbox.
OP: what have you tried? Have you:
Bought a spare decent Firewire external drive (like a seagate), clone your existing OSXS install to it with carbon copy cloner or superduper, then experimented on the clone (like, try to upgrade it with the 10.5 installer, or try Antonio's suggestion but keep the user settings)? That's where I would start. You can reclone over and over again until you find a formula that works -- or exhaust all possibilities -- without risking your existing install.
And report back here with your results -- it may save someone else someday.

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Hi, I want to downgrade from OSX LEOPARD to OSX TIGER but I have a few questions regarding this. My iMac is originally from Sep 2007 it came preloaded with tiger. I have original install (2) tiger discs version 10.4.10. I want to know if it is safe and what are the necessary steps to do so. Also by downgrading im wondering if a lot of apps nowadays support tiger for example I have photoshop version 5 and 4 these are very important to me. One last question does anyone know of any reliable virus protection for mac that doesnt slow down your computer? because I have read that a lot of them do so. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it! Here are the specs for my iMac
Model Name:
iMac
Model Identifier:
iMac7,1
Processor Name:
Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed:
2 GHz
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1
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2
L2 Cache:
4 MB
Memory:
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Most of the time a perception of general slow performance is the result of installing third party junk alleged to speed up, "clean" or "optimize" your Mac, or to look for viruses that don't exist. Ideally you would know what you installed so you can uninstall it, but if you don't know or aren't sure there are techniques such as Safe Mode and creating a temporary user account to confirm that suspicion.
If you open Activity Monitor it may show a process, or processes, that occupy a lot of your system's time.
Slowness confined solely to web browser activity is often the result of an inexorable progress toward websites that demand ever more processor-intensive tasks. If your slow performance is strictly limited to web browsing, you might try disabling Flash by either uninstalling it, or use utilities such as ClickToFlash that allow you to control what Flash content gets loaded. Flash in itself is not inherently evil, but there is nothing to stop websites or the advertisers who pay for them from writing horrible Flash code that can do everything from hogging 100% of your CPU's time to causing random crashes. You can watch Activity Monitor as in the above to correlate these troublesome web pages with performance degradation.
You are correct; if your computer shipped with Tiger you may certainly revert to it. I forgot that Tiger was shipping on new Macs as recently as five years ago. To downgrade it would be necessary to completely erase your hard disk and boot with the Tiger installation DVD, followed by installing it anew. Such drastic measures are not necessary and you are unlikely to be satisfied with the results anyway.
Assuming your system is free of third party parasitic junk attached to OS X in an ill-conceived attempt to improve upon it, that your hard disk drive is sound and the boot volume has enough free space to work with, by far the best performance-enhancing improvement would be to add more memory. Buy as much as your computer can use and that you can afford. 2 GB is not that much any more.
Read the following for some recommended troubleshooting techniques from Apple:
General purpose Mac troubleshooting guide: Isolating issues in Mac OS X
Creating a temporary user to isolate user-specific problems: Isolating an issue by using another user account
Memory limitations: Using Activity Monitor to read System Memory and determine how much RAM is being used
Identifying resource hogs and other tips: Runaway applications can shorten battery runtime
Starting the computer in "safe mode": Mac OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?

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http://manuals.info.apple.com/MANUALS/1000/MA1172/en_US/Snow_Leopard_Installatio n_Instructions.pdf
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3910
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2186
https://discussions.apple.com/message/19444837#19444837
https://discussions.apple.com/message/18085179#18085179
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UNINSTALLING
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