Dual layer DVD compatibility list

Hello,
is there a list of the best dual layer DVDs which can be used with a Macbook pro? I had a Mitsubishi DVD+R DL, which did not even begin burning at two different Macbooks, and failed during half of the burning process on a third Macbook. Since they are more expensive than ususal DVDs, I would appriciate if anyone can highly recommend certain brands so I don't have to buy and test every single brand.
Thank you.

I have Verbatim 8x DVD+R DL discs which work fine in my Mac Pro but do not work at all in my MacBook Pro (late 2008).
If I burn a data DVD on the Mac Pro, the MacBook Pro tries to read the disc but ejects the disc without mounting it.
If I insert a blank DL disc into the MacBook Pro it ejects it after several seconds without offering to do anything with the disc.
I know that the technical specifications for the MacBook Pro says up to 4x burn speed for DL, but shouldn't I expect the drive to be able to read the discs?

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Question about burning dual layer DVD's

I've owned a 2012 iMAC for a few weeks, having owned a 2007 iMAC until it stopped working. For the 2007 iMAC it was able to burn CD-R,CD-RW,DVD-R,DVD+R, DVD-RW,DVD+RW and DVD+R/DL. I never tried recording DVD-R/DL on that iMAC, since it was implied(in the list of useable blank media) that DVD-R/DL couldn't be used.
With my new 2012 iMAC,it seems that the situation is that DVD+R/DL can be used to burn "Burn Folders" of data, but can't be used to burn video material, and that if I want to burn video material requiring a dual layer disc, it should be DVD-R/DL. (maybe that is for the best, because DVD-R/DL has compatability with more non-computer DVD players than DVD+R/DL)
Does that sound correct to you? I guess I'll go out and buy a spindle of DVD-R/DL discs.

I burn dual layer DVDs all the time using iMovie 06 and iDVD 11 (on a Mac Pro).
I have since switched back to Snow Leopard. However, I found the above software to work perfectly with Lion.

Dual Layer DVD error

Hi,
For the first time I am burning a Dual layer DVD.I have a video with file size of 8.1 Gb. When I insert to burn it on DVD 09, it gives me an error" Please insert a recordable media". I am using Verbatim DVD+R DL. Is there any relation between the DVD drive, Hardware or DVD-R?
Any ideas?
Thanks.
MANDAR

Is your DVD drive a DVD+R DL compatable? I've had good luck with those discs with the Lacie (NEC) and the Pioneer (forgot the model, it's the newest.)
Rikk

Dual Layer DVD write error #80020022 - failure to communicate with disk

This only happens on Dual Layer DVDs, and always just as it's finishing. "Communcation with the disk drive failed error code: 80020022"
Used Disk Util and direct burn via finder - both give same error. The image is a .cdr created via DiskUtil, original from a factory cut dual layer DVD, about 7.2GB. The target blank is a "Double Layer DVD+R" Memorex.
The resultant disk is full, but unusable. Re-insertion sees it as a blank disk with no usable space. It wrote something, but certainly not the TOC?
MacBook Pro 2.5, about 6 months old, lastest Leopard
Please - any ideas? Do I have a hardware issue?

Wow - thanks for the quick reply, pullman! I did all of the ideas you listed, no luck. The only way to make this fail is to write to a double sided DVD, I've gone through a stack already just testing/failing. This also fails when writing to a double sided DVD through the finder (then clicking on "burn")
Here's a copy of the console error logs:
http://baxnet.com/bs/picture6.png
-- which indicate a hardware/polling error on the DVD drive itself.
Note that it is complaining about /dev/disk1, which on my system maps to the DVD drive:
Model: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-867
Revision: HA13
Serial Number: HG010865
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
Low Power Polling: Yes
Thanks again for your help - but still no luck. According to the logs, this may well be a device/hardware problem. Would you suggest a call to Apple support?

Dual Layer DVD Capacity, and Recommended Media?

Hey All,
Just a few quick questions. What is the formatted storage capacity of a Dual Layer DVD? I know that the listed size is 8.54 GB, but is that what you can actually get on the disc, or is it less than that? I have so much content that I'll need to cut things to make room, so I need to know exactly how much stuff I need to cut.
My second question is if anyone has some recommended dual layer media. I'm looking for whatever will work well with the burners that Apple uses in their Macs, and unfortunately Apple doesn't offer DL DVD's. Thanks!
20" 2Ghz G5 iMac Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Hi,
I usually dont go more than 8.1-8.2 it could take more, but from my experience, if its to full, stuff will freeze on it, Once my audio was un-sync, I toke some off, and it whent find.
Hope it helps

Best compression setting 90min movie on Dual Layer DVD

Okay, I admit, I am a total n00b at this...so sorry if you have to break things down into the most basic terms...
I am trying to get the BEST quality I can for my adobe Encore project (for ease of calculation, 90min movie and added features). I was previously getting "exceeds dvd capacity" error in Encore.
I have decided to recompress and see what I can do to make it all fit, but first I want to re-evaluate my whole process...
the ultimate issue comes down to three things (i think)...
1. CBR v VBR?? what is better and why?
2. What Data Bit Rate to compress at and why?
3. Single layer DVD vs Dual Layer DVD? Which is better and why?
to begin the discussion, I'll tell you what I "know" and what I think.
It seems DVD players can only handle a max bit rate of 8mbps so I don't want to go over that and using a Dual layer disc I risk that it may not work on older players....also, the dual layer costs twice as much to duplicate (this sucks but money is not an issue at this point, quality is more important). From what I have read, constant Bit Rate @ 8mbps will give me the Best possible image... 8 is the max and so to encode at 8 the entire time should be the best.. will i have any issues with this? This is not an amateur home movie but rather an indie feature film so I want to get the best possible viewable product out to people. I will have blu-ray questions to come later (thats what we are going to send to festivals).
any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks so much...
chris

Okay, thanks for everyone's thoughts.
Question....
I totally understand not wanting to waste space on a dvd IF there was extra room.... HOWEVER, a movie at 90min with menus, etc. BARELY fits on a dvd at a 6.8mbps VBR compression rate....
therefore....why not just fork out the extra couple bucks and just compress the whole thing at 8.0mbps 2pass CBR, slap it on a dual layer and even though there will be parts of the movie that will be higher than necessary, and there will be leftover space on the dual layer dvd.... you will be guaranteed to have the highest quality right? heavy motion areas and more static areas will all be encoded at 8 and thus, the best....
am i wrong in thinking this?
and after some extensive reading and research....Although is says a dvd player can handle 9.8mbps..... it doesnt' seem safe to encode that high because a lot of players can't handle it.... what is everyone else's thoughts?
I found this:
Data rate
DVD-Video discs have a raw bitrate of 11.08 Mbit/s, with a 1.0 Mbit/s overhead, leaving a payload bitrate of 10.08 Mbit/s. Of this, up to 3.36 Mbit/s can be used for subtitles and a maximum of 9.80 Mbit/s can be split amongst audio and video. In the case of multiple angles the data is stored interleaved, and so there's a bitrate penalty leading to a max bitrate of 8 Mbit/s per angle to compensate for additional seek time. This limit is not cumulative, so each additional angle can still have up to 8 Mbit/s of bitrate available.
Professionally encoded videos average a bitrate of 4-5 Mbit/s with a maximum of 7–8 Mbit/s in high-action scenes. This is typically done to allow greater compatibility amongst players, and to help prevent buffer underruns in the case of dirty or scratched discs.

Recommendations on Dual Layer DVD Burner Purchase

Anyone have any recommendations on a Dual Layer DVD burner to purchase to replace the old superdrive?

Nope - both formats are for both platforms, but there was a spate of +R players and discs made available on PCs when Apple were only using -R. However, I have two or three PC burners that were -R only (and are now sitting on a shelf somewhere) from those days. The capacity of both is so close as to not be an issue, although +R does hold slightly more data. The gross capacity of a DVD-R is 4.7GB, which is in fact 4.372GB when used in a computer. For DVD+R the gross is 4.73GB which converts to 4.377GB on your computer. I guess for some folk that additional capacity might be necessary, but it isn't really worth worrying too much about, IMO.
Using dual format drives is a good idea, as you can then use either type of disc... however if you read into the background of the formats you'll see that -R is slightly ahead of +R in the compatibility stakes, although more and more players are able to deal with both equally well.
When it comes to burning a DVD in your superdrive, the slower you burn the better the compatibility is likely to be, however some folk report 100% success with fast burns every time (I've had my share of problems with faster burners). As long as you get an Apple compatible drive you should be OK, if faster burning is what you want to do.
Layer break points - on a dual layer disc there comes a point when the laser in the player has to switch from the first to the second layer in order to access the data written there. The point at which this happens is controllable by the DVD author and is called the layer break point. However, on some media (specifically dual layer DVD-R) there is no point in setting this up as the first layer will get written until full, no matter what. There will then be an automatically set break point. When this occurs the change over is flagged as 'seamless' which is intended to make a smooth switch over but there are some players which cannot handle this kind of switch and it needs to be flagged as non-seamless. Other types of media (DVD+R DL) will allow you to set the break point where you want it and will allow you to set it as non-seamless. This helps increase the compatibility of your disc when playing back in set top players.
In DVDSP this means it is probably better to use DVD+R DL media when creating a DL sized project.

Burning to a dual layer DVD

Hello,
I've just finished a project that I want to take to a facility to have copies made. I've been told in the past that using a DVD-R can create problems with the copies when used in certain DVD players. I'm running DVD SP2 and I can't seem to get the program to accept anything but a DVD-R. Is this a preferences issue or should I take the actual Video and Audio TS and burn it straight to the dual layer DVD? Would appreciate any help?
John
PowerMac G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

It could be a hardware and/or software problem.
As far as Dual-Layer disks go ... I don't think they were around in the DVDSP 2 days... that's too long ago for me to know (without searching, and searching is your friend in this case).
Also your G4 might only have a DVD-R drive and that might be why DVD SP is only accepting DVD-R's. You most likely don't even have a Dual-Layer DVD drive unless you installed one later on in your G4.
How large is the Video_TS folder? You'd only need to burn it to a Dual Layer if it's >4.7gigs and even if it is you need to create a Dual-Layer break point in DVDSP to tell the disk when to switch over to the other layer on the disk. Or if it's just over 4.7 gigs (approx.) you can try and re-compress it and see if you can fit it onto one disk (which may be better for compatability issues, something you seem to be concerned about) - you may end up having more problems w/ Dual-Layers and players compared to DVD-R's and players.
Good Luck

How can I burn a 5GB iso to a dual layer DVD (I get a size error..)

I converted a 5GB *.mkv to iso for dual layer dvd with devede. When I try to burn the iso with growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0 /home/hk/movie/movie.iso, I get: /movie.iso is larger than 4GiB-1.
-allow-limited-size was not specified. There is no way do represent this file size. Aborting.
:-( write failed: Input/output error
What could I do? Thank you

Chances are the ISO is not dvd compliant & does not contain layer change info:
http://forum.doom9.org/archive/index.php/t-113514.html
EDIT: Alternative
For the lazy you can install ImgBurn into a Windows NT4 bottle/prefix
then install the latest ASPI.dll
issue a wineboot for the bottle/prefix
then build the dvd in ImgBurn BUT you will need to use dvdauthor to create the correct dvd folder structure & files
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Firmware upgrade for Matshita DVD-R UJ-845E to burn dual layer DVD?

Dear All
I have a PowerBookG4 with a Matshita DVD-R UJ-845E which it seems apple has disabled from burning dual layer DVD. I've read around that there are firware upgrades that can enable actions again. I can't find any for Matshita DVD-R UJ-845E, though. Any ideas?
Thank you!
Angie
PowerBookG4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

angie1976 you have me directly.
As stated in previous posts there have been several issues with the Matshita Optical drives that Apple has installed in there computers. Over time the problem has been discussed and it would appear that there are several things that come into play here.
Apple has made it so that many of the drives they intall are in fact not capable of there full potential.
It in fact boils down to an issue of Copywrite Infringment. Apple doesn't want to put itself in a position to be open to Lawsuits from the Motion Picture Industry.
Many of the drives that do not work up to there full potential have FIRMWARE updates that are offered by the manufacture to remedy this problem and some do not.
It has also been found that the casual user that burns DVD's isn't aware of the huige difference in the Format's available for DVD Burning. and the many limitations of these different drives as far as Media and Speed of Media is concerned. Many of the DL burners that were installed will not burn DL. Apple has had such a huge amount of dissatisfied customers that many that will take the time and if they still have AppleCare these drives will be replaced free of charge.
Here are a collection of links that will help you to understand the problem as it exists.
I will also say that upwards of 85% of the problems user expieriance is with POOR QUALITY MEDIA.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
I also noticed that some others have chimed in as to the fact that Media was not the issue. This is not entirely true.
Here is another post that I answered that will also cover this subject that may help you understand the problem a little better.
Let me see if I can shed some light on this issue, for you.
Maybe some others as well can.
There are several Applications that are standard programs that come with OSX.
Of these, several have the ability to burn a project.
iTunes....iMovie.....Disk Utility.
Each of the above mentioned applications were developed for a specific purpose. However, they are capable of doing more than the original developers intended.
The problem in my eyes is the lack of information for a new user to Mac.
In what one would consider the perfect world, you simply choose a project, drag it in to one or more of the applications mentioned above and simply click burn and you are finished.
This is not always the case.
Often users are left with the issue of no clear cut direction on how to use these different burning softwares, and the ability to have a clear cut step by step user interface.
All of the furnished OSX burning software is in fact usable and works well.
The problem is HOW TO USE THEM.
The more experienced users find this either to be a non issue or will take the time to work with these different applications until they figure out how to use them.
There are of course different Advertisements and FAQ's that cover these to some degree that leave users more confused than when they started.
One of the major issues that accompany this problem is this.
Not all Burners that Apple uses in there machines are the same.
Not all Burners will accept all the different Media's that are available on the market.
Thus leaving many users confused. Not having a clear cut understanding of what the difference is between these different Media's and there use.
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd.htm
The above link offers an overview of this subject.
Apple has found itself in a delima with the Motion Picture Industry, as well as The Music Industry over the issue of offering there users with the capability of copying Copyrighted material. Thus leaving them open for Law Suits.
There was an in-depth article in one of the recent issues of Macworld Magazine, that went in-depth covering this issue.
It is almost impossible to cover all aspects of this issue on these forums.
There are of course different softwares available that make the burning experience much easier and user friendly.
Roxio is one of the industry leaders in the development of Mac compatible Burning Software. They offer 2 of the industry leaders in this area.
Toast-7 and Popcorn.
This solves only one portion of the problem. Both of these software offering give the user the ability to copy about anything.
However, there is so much controversy over the issue of Movie and Music copying, the manufactures of the Computers, and the Burners try to limit the users ability to copy these, and thus be clear of any Legal Issue.
Here again rises the problem of computer users being mad because the industry has placed limitations on there ability to use there product in a fast easy to use method.
Again there are work around to all of these issues.
The problem then becomes who out there is willing to tell us what is the easiest most trouble free method of using these computers, burners, software,and media.
The burner manufactures offer there burners.
To get them to work to there full potential the users then must search out the 3rd party Firmware updates that will enable them to work properly. This is not an issue with all burners but quite a few.
Most readers on these forums have read about the MEDIA compatibility and poor quality issues these are covered in a prior link.
To sum this up, the resources are available to do just about anything one wants to do in the copy area.
Not every copy problem is the same because of all the different elements that come into the equation, Burner, Media, Software, Firmware.
So if a user has a problem and needs the information and the resources to copy there projects whatever they may be.
Be through, give as much information as you can.
Keep it simple, No need for the use of exotic terms that most people don't understand anyway.
In-depth. Tell all aspects of the issue and what you have what you are using and what you want to accomplish.
If there is an answer out there.
Someone will Chime in.
The users on these forums for the most part are more than willing to share in there knowledge, free of charge.
One last thing,
When a user gives you an answer for you problem, for the most part they believe it to be a fact. Sometimes this isn't the case, we have all been guilty of, this is not done with malicious intent. It is done trying to help.
I personally have been misinformed, or tried a fix, that will work in one instance but not another. So tell all you can about your problem.
Cheers Don

Can't burn Dual Layer DVD-R on new Mac Pro?

Can't burn Dual Layer DVD-R on new Mac Pro?
I have a new Mac Pro with Pioneer DVD burner built in. I've since found out that it only burns Dual Layer +R type, and not the -R type.
My replication company need a Dual Layer -R type DVD as they can't get a glass-master off the +R type Dual Layer discs.
Can anyone recommend/suggest a cheap way of being able to either master off a DVD to Dual Layer -R disc, or perhaps copy my Dual Layer +R to a Dual Layer -R ?
Thanks guys.

Everything I have ever read about the DVD-R DL discs says the layer break can't be chosen by the author. It is not a DVDSP issue; it is an issue with the media.
This is actually listed in the DVDSP 4.1 Late Breaking News on page 15:
"Using DVD-R Dual-Layer Media
If your system contains a DVD drive that can write to the new DVD-R dual-layer media, you can burn your DVD project to it with DVD Studio Pro. However, there are several issues:
Since there is no current way for DVD Studio Pro to identify DVD-R dual-layer media as having two layers, burning a dual-layer project to it results in a warning appearing telling you that the DVD media may have insufficient room to hold the project. This message is based on the assumption that the disc is single layer. Both layers of the disc will be written to as needed, however, when you click Continue.
If you are burning a dual-layer project, the break point you set will not affect where the layer break actually occurs. Instead, the first layer is written to until filled, at which point the drive switches to writing to the second layer.
The switch between layers is a seamless layer change not supported by some DVD players, which may stop playing the disc when the switch point is reached.
Important: Do not use DVD-R dual-layer media unless these issues do not impact your project.
You can use DVD+R double-layer media for burning your dual-layer projects. With DVD+R double-layer media, DVD Studio Pro places the layer break point and sets the switch point to be nonseamless as specified in your project."
Can you tell us what drive you have and what firmware (revision) it is?

Burning Dual Layer DVD's

Hi everyone,
I have a refurbished MBP- 15.4" 2.53 GHz Dual Core 320 GB with 10.6.3 and Toast 10. As I just got the MBP and haven't burned anything with it yet, my question is, which DVD-/+R DL media is the best to use. On my G4 MDD, I typically have problems burning Sony, Maxell and (sometimes) Memorex media. Normally TDK and Philips work best on that unit.
Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance!

Thans for the suggestion guys. I did buy the Verbatim DL DVD and they seem to work great. But I can't seem to get them to work with Toast 10:
I attempted to burn a dual layer dvd (Verbatim DVD+R DL, 8X) on my (PowerPC) Mac G4, 10.4.11, Toast 9.0.7. The drive is a Pioneer DVR-109 with DL layer burn capabilities. I turned buffer under-run protection off and burned at 2.4X speed (on an 8X disc). The burn failed. I got the following error right off the bat:
Sense Key Illegal Request
Sense Code 0x26
Invalid Field in Parameter List
I attempted to burn another dual layer dvd on my (Intel) MacBook Pro 2.53 GHz dual duo-core, running 10.6.4 with the stock superdrive. Toast 10.0.3. Same settings (buffer under-run off, 2.4X speed, 8X disc). Same error.
Both times I was burning as Disc Copy of a dmg file.
When I attempted to burn the files on both my G4 and MacBookPro through the Finder/Disk Utility, both burns were successful.
I don't want to have to save an image file out of Toast each time I go to burn a dual layer disc and then burn with the Finder/Disk Utilities. Is there any other really good media burner for Mac that I can use instead of Toast? I don't want one that just burns video as I want to be able to burn data disks as well (both Mac and PC format) and audio.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Usb dual layer dvd burner

i'm wanting to purchase a usb dual layer dvd-r burner for my macbook. does anybody know of one that will work with idvd, as i've read that there are compatibility issues with them.

Use Patch Burn.
http://www.patchburn.de/
The new MBPs use a MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-857D as an optical drive. It's the same model number as in the MacBook, only with a "D" added for DL. If it's physically the same size, it may work without any modification.
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Can you copy onto dual layer dvds

Have just purchased a 17" 1.67 ghz powerbook and was wondering if the dvd burner can burn onto dual layer dvds
Many Thanks

No currently shipping PowerBook is advertised as having the capability to burn dual layer DVDs, and they can't be burned in a single layer drive. To check what types of disks your optical drive can burn to in Tiger, choose About this Mac from the Apple menu and click on More Info. Once the System Profiler has opened, check the information for your burner; all the types of disks you can burn will be listed here.
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Not to duplicate any other post, but can I burn dual layer DVD's? iDVD asked me to put in a Dual Layer DVD but that doesn't always mean that it is passable. Just can't find anywhere where it states that my G5 iMac with iSight built in has a dual layer burner.
Thanks for the info.

Run System Profiler. Look under the information about the optical drive. It will list all of the drive's capabilities.

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