Dumb?? How do I tell if an XServe Raid is a G4 or a G5??

I've looked all over the RAID Admin.... Is there any way to do a "Get Info"??
It's NOT listed in the "Info" screen.
Thanks

>So any Apple Drive Module will work??
With the latest XServe RAID firmware and ATA drive modules, yes.
The 'original' XServe RAID came with 180GB drives. Then they added support for 250GB drives, then 400GB and now 500GB.
With each new drive size there's been a corresponding firmware update. The updates add support for the new drive size plus new features.
So if your XServe RAID is running the latest firmware you can use any of those drive sizes. The only other consideration is SATA vs. ATA. The XServe RAID uses ATA Drive Modules, unlike the SATA Drive Modules employed by the XServe G5 - you can't take a drive module from a G5 and put it in an XServe RAID.

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Tod, the answer to your question is No, only one computer is accessing the xserve raid files at any one time and that is via Fibre Channel. However I do have the xserve raids set up as share points via ethernet.
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I never thought of that. I will try that while I await for your answer, thanks again.
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Re: Xserve Raid Mounts, Corrupt Directory tired of rebuilding directory
Posted: Jun 27, 2010 1:25 PM in response to: Todd Buhmiller
Are multiple computers accessing the same data on the RAID at the same time?
If so then NO. This is the source of your data corruption and I'm surprised if you were able to get all your data back every time if this is how you've been running your system. Each fibre channel assumes it has full and sole control of every volume it has mounted, no data arbitration is practiced and data corruption will occur if this assumption is wrong.
The only way this set-up will work is to use partitions or LUN masks so the volumes are accessed by one computer at any time. As long as one computer relinquishes control before another mounts it you will dodge arbitration issues but this is a dangerous game. If you screw up and mount an already mounted volume - and there is no easy way to tell if a volume is mounted - corruption will then occur. Sharing data simultaneous at fibre speeds is what XSAN does and to do this you need it.
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+The xserve raids will mount automatically to any computer that I connect the qlogic fc switch to+
This is source of the corruption to your data. Any computer that attaches to a drive/partition via fibre channel assumes that it alone is in control of the drive and data corruption is inevitable.
+Is that the issue, should I disconnect the xserve from the fc switch and leave it connected via ethernet?+
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