Duplicate Keyword Problem

I've obviously made some huge error while adding keywords to my images. See the attached smart album pop up. Despite the fact I've tried to enter my keywords exactly the same using a constant taxometry and nomenclature-- I've got dups of the same keywords over and over again (San Francisco is the perfect example below). I know that the keywords do match-- there might be the occasional capitalization error, but there isn't hidden characters or extra spaces that would have defined a new keyword.
First off-- what have I done wrong when adding keywords to my images?
Secondly-- is there an easy way to merge all the duplicate keywords into one?
Thanks. Long live Aperture.

This has happened to me also. What you need to do is to find out which pictures have the "wrong" San Francisco. You can for example choose just one of them and see what shows up. Delete the keyword from that file and then replace it with the "right" San Francisco from the keywords HUD. You can just drag it from the HUD to the file so this process is really not that hard. When you think you are done - rebuild the database and see how much work you have left. Moving on into the future tedious as it may be you can avoid this by using the keyword HUD or keyword keys to add keywords to files. Aperture treats you badly if you type the word in yourself. If you have embedded the misspelled keywords in the files with other programs you will not be able to eliminate them from the pop-up - as Aperture will not overide those errors in the originals.

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Fixing duplicate keyword problem in LR 2.2

I have imported Controlled Vocabulary into my existing keyword library. Unfortunately I already had existing keywords tagged to a couple of hundred photos. As a result I now have duplicate keywords for each photo. I realize I may have compounded my problems by saving the keywords directly to photos(CTRL-S) after the import and before attempting to delete duplicate keywords.
Is there a way to delete entire library of keywords and re-import CV without deleting keywords from the existing XMP files? Then I could continue keywording photos using a fresh CV library and edit existing duplicates when I had the time. Obviously I am hoping to avoid the worst case scenario of re-keywording all my photos.
Note: I sent a related question on a previous thread(on 2/7)and never received a response...

Jim, I'm in a similar workflow attempting to use a single controlled vocabulary across several libraries. The problem I run into is when adding new keywords to the vocabulary, I have to remember to export the whole keyword list and update all of my catalogs before going on to the next task. Also, as in your case, if a keyword is deleted from the vocabulary or moved to a different tree there is no easy way to duplicate the change across all libraries.
In the same way that all of my catalogs share a common set of develop presets, are you aware of any way to have several lightroom catalogs work from a single set of keywords?

Duplicate Keywords in Keywording Panel

I kind of have a lack of knowledge about keyword hierarchies already installed and being used. This question is going to be less than together.
I will have imported all my photos into Lightroom already. Their associated keywords should be in the Keyword Panel. (I have not done this yet.)
The bulk of the imported will have been keyworded in Nikon View 6.0.0. (I had no flat keyword list or hierarchical keyword list already in Nikon View.) I keyworded these photos into Nikon View's IPTC from looking at a independent paper list. The rest of the recent photos imported will have been keyworded inside Lightroom and/or keyworded from Nikon View NX2 and imported. [I haven't decided yet which one I will keyword from, Lightroom or NX2...unless you have a suggestion.]
The Keyword Hierarchy will have been made up after the bulk of my photos have been imported... In short I'm trying to give you a future scenario of my work flow at this point so I can start asking questions.
I have read of people having trouble with duplicate keywords being added to the Lightroom Keyword List Panel after they get their keyword list/hierarchy set up. The following thoughts about unwanted duplicate keywords turning up in a keyword hierarchy I read and am not 100% clear on:
'The trouble with hierarchical keywords is they always end up with child keywords somehow re-appearing at the top level. It can happen when they re-import a picture that's been processed in another app. Or when a group of child keywords becomes duplicated in more than one part of the hierarchy. Usually because they have changed the hierarchy at some point and imported an older file. Or they changed the hierarchy on a laptop and then brought files over to the main PC. Something always upsets the logical structure they have put into place. So rather than continue with this problem, they have gone back to a flat list in Lightroom.'
Could someone spell out what is above so I am 100% sure I think I know what is it saying? Are there any more instances I could get an unwanted duplicate keyword or keywords in the Panel? So it is not a good idea to change the Hierarchy after you get it set up? How about additions?
I'm scared now to start a hiearchy! Scared for problems it might cause in the future. I like the idea you can filter search on a whole category or subcategory. It's easier to zip down to find a keyword. Especially with 700 plus keywords. I'm scared to impliment it. Could anyone explain? Thank You So Much for any information!
Sandy

'The trouble with hierarchical keywords is they always end up with child keywords somehow re-appearing at the top level. It can happen when they re-import a picture that's been processed in another app. Or when a group of child keywords becomes duplicated in more than one part of the hierarchy. Usually because they have changed the hierarchy at some point and imported an older file. Or they changed the hierarchy on a laptop and then brought files over to the main PC. Something always upsets the logical structure they have put into place. So rather than continue with this problem, they have gone back to a flat list in Lightroom.'
Could someone spell out what is above so I am 100% sure I think I know what is it saying? Are there any more instances I could get an unwanted duplicate keyword or keywords in the Panel? So it is not a good idea to change the Hierarchy after you get it set up? How about additions?
In my opinion, someone has written something that implies a terrible thing has happened (duplicate keywords), when in fact duplicate keywords can be avoided by maintaining a structured workflow; then if a duplicate keyword does appear (because you didn't maintain the structured workflow, or like most people, you just plain made a mistake), this isn't a terrible thing; in fact, this is something that might take 20 seconds to fix in Lightroom.
The structured workflow I am thinking of is the following: if you have keywords added by other software, import all (yes ALL) of the photos into Lightroom, and then clean up the hierarchy to be the way you want it to be. Then, there is never another instance of importing photos that already have keywords. From that point forward, do all of your keywording in Lightroom, and you will not likely get duplicate keywords.
And if you do find a keyword that is out of place, you have several choices:
Panic, and never use Lightroom again
Gouge your eyes out so you can't see the problem any more
stay calm and drag the keyword to where it should be in the hierarchy
As opposed to keywords out of place, duplicate keywords also give you choices. You can use choice #1 or choice #2 to solve the problem, or you can (Choice #3) simply apply the correct keyword to the photos, and then delete the duplicate.
I'm scared now to start a hiearchy! Scared for problems it might cause in the future. I like the idea you can filter search on a whole category or subcategory. It's easier to zip down to find a keyword. Especially with 700 plus keywords. I'm scared to impliment it. Could anyone explain? Thank You So Much for any information!
Over my several years of using Lightroom, I do find that I accidentally put keywords in the wrong place. The problem is fixed, via choice #3 above, in under 20 seconds. Also, over my time using Lightroom, my photography subject matter has changed, or my organizing needs have changed, and I have re-arranged parts of my hierarchy to suit my new needs, and/or added new top level keywords or middle level keywords or bottom level keywords. It is relatively painless and simple. The biggest problem (and yes, it is a problem) is when you have to drag a keyword from the top of the hierarchy to the bottom (beyond the bottom of the screen), scrolling isn't as smooth as it should be, but it still works. This is hardly a reason to avoid hierarchical keywords.
Honestly, I think someone has placed bad thoughts in your head.

Anyone know if the long standing duplicate files problem with File History has been fixed yet?

There are loads of public threads about the duplicate files problem
with Windows 8/8.1 File History backup system.
From all the threads I've looked at, there seems to be no solution,
and no acknowledgement from MS that they can even repro the problem
(which surprises me considerably as there are so many people who
notice the problem).
Is anyone aware of whether MS (may) have fixed this for Win10?
Are MS aware of the problem and if they're able to fix it?
Dave - with many GB of duplicated files in File History :)

Hmm, is that the attitude MS would recommend? :)
Why would I care what Microsoft would recommend?
Clearly you don't, and you appear to have missed my smiley. Calm down
Noel, many of us are as annoyed by aspects of modern Windows as you
are. :)
I'm all about making Windows actually WORK/./
Aren't we all? Windows is software I use too many hours every day, I
along with many millions of others need it to work really well. You
are not alone.
When they implement something that doesn't work, and even if it did work doesn't do what's needed - and/beyond that/ they remove features people DO need (such as the GUI for Windows Backup), I see no wrong in advising people of the way things
really are.
File History essentially does work - it's saved me a couple of times
in the past couple of weeks. It just has a highly annoying habit of
creating 100% duplicates of some files for no apparent reason. If MS
have fixed that I won't have any known complaints about it.
If you don't like it, you don't have to use it. I generally like it, I
just want to see that its fixed.
Dave

How do I combine duplicate keyword tags in the organizer ?

While organizing my photos I realized I made duplicate keyword tags for the same person. Is there a way that I can combine two keyword tags for one person into one ?

Do you mean you assigned two slightly different keywords to the same person ? Like personA and personB ? If that is the case, select all persoB, assign also person A. Then delete 'personB' keyword.

Keyword Problem and a Question.Forfo

For some odd reason, Lightroom assigns a keyword (Tofino) to ALL new imports. Even though it isn't selected. A bit aggravating, because I have to got back and change every file after it's imported. Why is this happening and how do I turn it off? This has gone on for more than a year!
My other question concerns the Adjustment Brush. I know there's a simple way of hitting a key to see which areas have been "masked," but I can't figure out how to do it? Who knows?
Many thanks.

I very much appreciate the hints on shortcuts and the "o" for the toggle
mask.
But I still can't figure out the keyword problem. Any other ideas? My
issue is that EVERY time I import files from the camera's SD card, it
applies a keyword of TOFINO. I used that once only. So I'm puzzled where
to look for this in the pre-sets. I prowled around last night, but I don't
think I'm looking in the right area.
Jeremy "Tofino" Lezin

Aperture 3 will not let me delete duplicate keywords

KEYWORD Craziness.
I have gone through my keyword list, and it is extensive, and edited duplicates out... to find them re-populated when I come back to Aperture. I have chosen to use all lower case font in my keywords so now it is obvious to pick out the duplicate. For example, the keyword "BUILDING" comes back which of course is right under "building". I have stopped applying keywords on import to avoid any possibility of duplicates and use presets to apply keywords...less typing more accuracy. Why is Aperture adding back keywords that I have edited many times. I use families to organize the keywords. The duplicate keywords do not have any pictures associated with them... strange that they keep coming back!
Does anyone have a suggestion?
Thanks in advance

Kirby,
Thanks for your input.
Three more things to look into- my situation
-I do sync a few pictures on Mobileme.
-I do have extensive Keyword Preset Groups of which I have deleted and rebuilt in the past couple of days precisely for the reason your noting. They were old information and they did not sync with the master list.
-I am using more than one library, but I am in the process of consolidating. I only use business photos on this computer (MacBook Pro) and relegate all personal photos to the iMac. Keywords are specific to work on the MacBook Pro.
Multiple libraries - Switch to Library - vs - Restarting Aperture 3
My first question would be... is the keyword list universal to all libraries? The answer...no.
I just switched between libraries and each library has it's own keyword list. I tried to import my edited keyword list from my main library to another library... it did not import the corrected version. I quit Aperture 3 and restarted to engage the changes (I'm guessing that is what one needs to do) I made in the main library Keyword List... and it worked. I switched to another library imported my edited Keyword List from the main library and now everything is in sink throughout my libraries. I have the same keyword list. I am editing all libraries into my main library applying keywords as I go, so I was not worried about loosing any keywords that were applied in those libraries.
Thanks for you insight Kirby. Any other tips? I'd gladly take them.
Craig

Joe Schorr - When can we expect a fix to the numerous keyword problems?

Joe, when can we expect a fix for the numerous keyword problems? Is this a priority?
There are so many problems that I’ll be very surprised if you can resolve them all on the first attempt. I doubt you have a complete list but I feel safe in saying they’ve all been mentioned here in one form or another. You would be doing yourself and the customers a service if you took the unprecedented step of providing your list so that it can be reviewed for accuracy. I’m finding new problems... or at least I think I am. I hate to waste your time reporting problems others have already reported or worse yet, problems I’ve reported — as I’ve lost track there are so many.
Please let us know what is going on with this. You’ve made progress on the performance issues (though I think I speak for everyone with a PPC system that it’s still not what it should be – and I have a G5 Quad w/7 GB RAM and Quadro FX 4500 card. Aperture should be smokin’ but it’s not...)
I look forward to hearing from you....

I have a 500 GB hard drive; that's how I've avoided the issue, to date. But you consider a 2000 shot bat mitzvah a small shoot, so I have know problem acknowledging you shoot a lot more than I do.
The key point about Aperture, to date, is that it doesn't add ANY data to original RAW files, period. Everything it appears to do -- everything is just a set of modifications to the master. This applies to sharpening, this applies to shadows and highlights, this applies to cropping... and it applies to metadata.
As for archival, etc., ... if you're archiving outside of Aperture... why not just use multiple Aperture libraries? It's a bit inconvenient (to the extent that it takes 15 seconds to change the setting and re-launch), but it gets around the problem. I mean, if you're archiving external to Aperture in original RAW format, you're not only "losing" the metadata... you're losing every single change you've made to the file. Truly, no editing functionality of anything would you be using in this scenario.

Italicized duplicate keywords - How do I get rid of them permanently? - BRIDGE CS5

In the keyword panel,I have the same keyword in several places in the hierarchy. I think some came in as legacy keywords, and others, I inadvertently created the same keyword twice. These duplicates appear in different parts of the whole keyword list. Now so I don't have all those confusing duplicates, and so I can find stuff, I would like to delete the extra keywords. The duplicates appear in italics. I can make them persistent, but I can't get rid of them. I've tried all sorts of things like finding all the files with the keyword in question, manually deleting the words and then re entering. I can delete the words, but they will magically reappear. What I want to do is consolidate multiple, duplicate kewords. Is that possible? Any ideas?
Thanks!
Liz
[email protected]

That root is for Mac OSX right?
I'm using Windows 7. The only other possiblity could be Lightroom
3 which I downloaded yesterday to see if I could fix this problem. Where can I find the keywords file for Lightroom.

Lightroom Upgrade at a client - sucess? - keyword problem deal breaker

Hi
Just a small report, on how upgrading a client's LR 2 catalog went.
Background: The client is a professional photographer specialized on garden photography. Her customers are gardening and lifestyle magazines who publish her photos regularly as illustrations to various articles. She has a professional Canon EOS 1Ds MK III equipment and shoots exclusively raw. In a shoot around 300 to 1000 images are shot. The Lightroom catalog has around 20,000 images currently.
In Lightroom she uses mostly DAM and some basic development features, images are delivered either as raw of as JPEG images to the clients. Keywording is especially important. She has an extensive hierarchical list of plants most of them multiword keywords with spaces, and lots of other keywords indicating if images were sent to clients and other stuff.
The upgrade went just very well. I exported the catalog to a new intermediate catalog without previews, installed LR3 and imported this intermediate catalog into LR3 generating new previews from scratch. The hardware is modest, and some functional tests (especially switching images in develop, spot tool, and adjustment brushes) revealed that everything performs well enough.
Then she asked me where she would have benefits from using the new version. And then I told the whole benefit story, which can be read everywhere.
- New process version, better details and noise reduction. She asked where she can see it? Hmm, I switched to 1:1 view changing the process versions, not really much to see on Canon 1Ds Mk III files. Even with noisier files, it was hard to tell, what has actually changed. So only a 4:1 view very tiny changes were visible. The impact on her business? Near to nothing as she does not print large. The differences would hardly be seen in the magazine prints.
- Lens corrections and perspective control: does not really matter in garden photography, but she could see some occasional usefullness.
- Publish services: no real need for it
- Print packages: nope
- Slightshow improvements: no use for it
- Performance improvements: nothing visible
- Effects: completely superfluous
- New import dialog: at first glance a hindereance, as she has to get used to it
Then she asked: did they correct the keyword handling, when entering keywords witrh spaces? (You know the nasty bug, where keyword completion is broken at keywords with spaces). We checked (I knew it wasn't fixed), and of course she was heavily disappointed. Thus, after 2 years of development nothing new for her, keyword bug not fixed? Of course she said, that I should tell her, when keyword completion works, then and only then would she consider an upgrade.
So, despite all the bells and whistles about the new version, I doubt that for many photographers the benefits are really so overwhelming in the real world. It is a pitty that Adobe continues to neglect the DAM features (some fresh ideas for client management would be great), that existing features aren't consequently implemented (esp. the possibilities to query the catalog, and keywording), and that existing bugs are constantly ignored and not fixed.
So, please Adobe, get keyword completion fixed for keywords with spaces immediately !!! This is what professionals need. A catalog without reliable DAM features, renders the catalog concept to a great extend useless. Please listen!
Disclaimer: As I am not a professional for me the situation is not the same. I just report my experience I had, with a photgrapher, who needs a proper asset management. I recommended Lightroom to her because of the overall package (she moved from Cumulus), so I feel a little obliged to help her in this issue. In my case, as a user of a modest Lumix G camera system, I would consider the IQ benefits more signifcant. I don't know, if this is a general observation.
Kind regards
Thomas

W.W. Webster wrote:
tgutgu wrote:
Just a small report, on how upgrading a client's LR 2 catalog went ...
So, please Adobe, get keyword completion fixed for keywords with spaces immediately !!! This is what professionals need. A catalog without reliable DAM features, renders the catalog concept to a great extend (sic) useless. Please listen!
I just report my experience I had, with a photgrapher (sic), who needs a (sic) proper asset management.
So the over-riding conclusion from your experience with just one photographer is that Lightroom is 'useless', and this compels you to demand, in bold type, that Adobe must listen?
That Lightroom has issues and areas for ongoing development is obvious, and Adobe won't dispute this. But rants like yours add nothing and are unhelpful. Julie's response is extremely tactful and far more moderate than your post deserves.
Dear Mr. Webster
I think when you post, you should definitely change your tone. Julie simply answered my original post by acknowledging the problem, your accusation that I did not use appropriate "netiquette" is ridiculous. Posts like yours are a real problem of this forum.
I simply gave a user story example to show that not for everybody the shiny advertised new features provide real benefits and that paying attention to a thorough implementation of features can be equally important. I think Julie has recognized this. And the issue is nothing for ongoing developments. Lightroom supports keywords with spaces, so it has to be done consequently. Keywording is essential for DAM. If keywording gets too tedious or leads to wrong keyword assignments, then DAM is really pointless.
The intention of my post was to point Adobe to an apparently small problem, which has quite a big impact to people, who depend on good DAM features. The issue is nothing new, existed since the first release of Lightroom, but nothing was done about it, unfortunately. Now that Lightroom addressed keywords with spaces even with a new preference setting, it was fair to assume, that they had done something about it with care. This isn't so obviously. The issue was discussed in previous threads, but did not get any visible notice from Adobe. I am glad that this has changed now with Julie's post.
In no way did I say that Lightroom is useless or even that I regard it to be so. I merely said that the catalog concept is to a great extend (not completely) useless, if its implementation is sloppy. DAM starts with data entry and only after doing this, you can use it to your benefit. Therefore it has to be efficient, which currently is not. Lightroom is criticized by a large number of users that it is forcing them into a catalog system instead of just providing access to the file system. Long existing bugs like this, likely proves them right in their view.
The competition (I mean complete workflow solutions) is not really better than Lightroom with respect to DAM features, however, my take is, that the developers should be equally ambitious with the quality of the catalog system as they are with IQ, especially if the achievements in IQ are apparently less relevant to owners of high end camera systems. (I could be wrong with the last statement, but it would be interesting to hear if others have similar observations).
Kind regards
Thomas
Thomas

Duplicate records problem

Hi everyone,
I'm having a a little difficulty resolving a problem with a repeating field causing duplication of data in a report I'm working on, and was hoping someone on here can suggest something to help!
My report is designed to detail library issues during a particular period, categorised by the language of the item issued. My problem is that on the sql database that out library management system uses, it is possible for an item to have more than one language listed against it (some books will be in more than one language). When I list the loan records excluding the language data field, I get a list of distinct loan records. Bringing the language data into the report causes the loan record to repeat for each language associated with it, so if a book is both in English and French, it will cause the loan record to appear like this:
LOAN RECORD NO.     LANGUAGE CODE
123456                             ENG
123456                             FRE
So, although the loan only occurred once I have two instances of it in my report.
I am only interested in the language that appears first and I can exclude duplicated records from the report page. I can also count only the distinct records to get an accurate overall total. My problem is that when I group the loan records by language code (I really need to do this as there are millions of loan records held in the database) the distinct count stops being a solution, as when placed at this group level it only excludes duplicates in the respective group level it's placed in. So my report would display something like this:
ENG     1
FRE      1
A distinct count of the whole report would give the correct total of 1, but a cumulative total of the figures calculated at the language code group level would total 2, and be incorrect. I've encountered similar results when using Running Totals evaluating on a formula that excludes repeated loan record no.s from the count, but again when I group on the language code this goes out of the window.
I need to find a way of grouping the loan records by language with a total count of loan records alongside each grouping that accurately reflects how many loans of that language took place.
Is this possible using a calculation formula when there are repeating fields, or do I need to find a way of merging the repeating language fields into one field so that the report would appear like:
LOAN RECORD     LANGUAGE CODE
123456                      ENG, FRE
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated, as aside from this repeating language data there are quite a few other repeating database fields on the system that it would be nice to report on!
Thanks!

if you create a group by loan
then create a group by language
place the values in the group(loan id in the loan header)
you should only see the loan id 1x.
place the language in the language group you should only see that one time
a group header returns the 1st value of a unique id....
then in order to calculate avoiding the duplicates
use manual running totals
create a set for each summary you want- make sure each set has a different variable name
MANUAL RUNNING TOTALS
RESET
The reset formula is placed in a group header report header to reset the summary to zero for each unique record it groups by.
whileprintingrecords;
Numbervar X := 0;
CALCULATION
The calculation is placed adjacent to the field or formula that is being calculated.
(if there are duplicate values; create a group on the field that is being calculated on. If there are not duplicate records, the detail section is used.
whileprintingrecords;
Numbervar X := x + ; ( or formula)
DISPLAY
The display is the sum of what is being calculated. This is placed in a group, page or report footer. (generally placed in the group footer of the group header where the reset is placed.)
whileprintingrecords;
Numbervar X;
X

Another "duplicate email" problem.

I asked the following question over on the Office 2013 forum and the only response I got basically told me to "go ask this on the Outlook forum", so here goes:
"I too am experiencing rabid email duplication with Outlook 2013. I've found a way to avoid the problem, and also a way to fairly reliably CAUSE it. I'm posting in the hope that this will help Microsoft with information that will allow them
to correct their buggy code.
My configuration:
LAN/Domain network running Server 2008 R2 and a 3rd party (not Microsoft) email server. (Code-Crafters Ability Mail Server).
Physical network is a mix of hard-wired Gigabit Cat6 and wireless (Ubiquiti Pico M2 HP).
A mix of Windows workstations, desktops and laptops running a mix of XP-Pro, Vista Ultimate, Win 7 Pro, and 8.1 Pro.
A mix of Outlook versions, the XP and Vista machines are mostly running Outlook 2003 (yeah, I know, it's ancient but it generally still works fine for these users and they hate change). The 7 and 8.1 users are all on Outlooks 2013 (installed as Office
2013 Professional Plus 2013).
All of the users access their email on the OEM Ability server via IMAP. All users have at least "a couple" of sub-folders defined in their account and all use at least "some" Outlook rules to route some email at both receive and send
time into various folders. Some users have a lot of rules and folders, some have only a small handful. These users also have external IMAP access to their email on the server via their Android phones, generally using the "Type" (formerly
Bluemail) Android email client.
Everything from the server down (including the email server and the domain controller) is mine and under my direct control.
What happens fairly consistently for a few users is this:
If they have Outlook 2013 running on more than one workstation at the same time, eventually it will go insane duplicating a handful of emails, both in the inbox and in one or more of their folders, at the rate of once every few seconds. They are also
connected via their android phone when this happens. All clients (all the Outlook instances and their phones) go nuts trying to send 'new mail' notifications out at a very rapid rate. It's not possible to delete them fast enough to keep up, no
matter how quick they are on the trigger. The emails in question ARE in fact duplicates - everything about them including the header information matches - and they are "real" (the duplicate copies are also visible through the web interface
directly into the email server), so I'm sure the duplication is not just inside the Outlook view of the user's email folder(s).
Stopping all of the user's instances of Outlook stops the duplication. Stopping just the android client does not. If the user shuts down all his/her instances of Outlook and uses the webmail interface to delete all the duplicates (even the 'original'
email) and then starts exactly ONE instance of Outlook 2013, things are fine. Starting a second instance of Outlook 2013 on another machine (for the same user) will eventually cause the duplication to start again. Sometimes immediately, sometimes
not, but in my experience it has always started again within an hour of starting the second Outlook 2013 instance. When it starts, the duplicated mail is the same as before - even though the user previously deleted all copies of it, they 'magically'
start re-appearing.
I'd really like for this to get fixed. Now, before anyone replies, if you're going to just write "you shouldn't run multiple instances of Outlook for the same account from different machines", don't. I don't want to hear
it and the reasons that some of my users want to do this are none of your concern. If it's DOCUMENTED in official Microsoft documentation that this is not a supported action, then I want to see the reference myself. Otherwise, keep it to yourself
- thanks.
Also, don't suggest that I delete and rebuild the user's email profiles and/or email accounts on the server. Been there, done that (multiple times), it doesn't solve the problem.
Dont' suggest that I ditch my existing email server and convert to something else (like Exchange). I happen to like my existing email server (and so do my users). I've already worked this problem with their support structure fairly extensively and
we're both satisfied that the problem is not being caused by their server code.
Finally, don't tell me to run scanpst. Also been there, done that (multiple times) and that too does not fix the problem, so either the problem is somewhere other than in a corrupted pst/ost file, or scanpst is too dumb to find and correct whatever
corruption might exist.
Having said all that, any insights into what's going on?"
Another symptom, which may or may not be related that I'm seeing on one of the problem machines is that Outlook "sometimes" does not show recent email on the user's account. The user can access his email account via direct web access into
the email server and is able to see, sometimes, several days worth of email traffic that does not appear in Outlook (again, using an IMAP connection). Trying various combinations of "send/receive" operations, "folder unsubscribe/subscribe"
operations, even exiting and restarting Outlook all seem to complete with no errors, but also without retrieving the missing email from the server. Sometimes "time goes by" and the user can restart Outlook and the email will appear, but
I've not yet found a way to make it happen.

Update:
I've reading around the different posts and saw somewhere that it might help if i put my username and password in the outgoing mail section (where is says optional). I did that! I then shut off my wifi and tried to send mail using the edge network and it was sent successfully. I will try this when im away from home again. Hopefully this will work.

Keywords problem using Adobe Bridge CS5

Hi,
I've a great many photos in numerous folders all found under one master folder.
Don't know if this is a flaw in the program or a fault on my part, but what I'm trying to do is keep my keyword list as I continue to add to it...regardless of when I happen to come back to Bridge...'and regardless of what photo I select.
Problem is, when I close out of Bridge and come back to a particular image, Bridge will show me only a portion of all the keywords I'd entered previously. My workaround involves browsing around to older images which happen to have all the keywords listed. (not meaning that all those keywords are applied to that photo, BUT, they're available). After doing so, the full list of keywords I've added in the past will now be available to any other image I select thereafter.
I hope I explained that correctly.
I always figured Adobe Bridge to be pretty intuitive and self explanatory but just now had a look at the CS5 Manual just to be sure I wasn't overlooking something. I couldn't find a solution.
Would appreciate any help in this regard.
Thanks in advance.

Glad the problem is clear now
When I say at their disposal, I mean keywords from which to be applied to each file. When you create a brand new file, from where would I get the keywords? I certainly don't expect to enter each one individually over and over again for every file. At their disposal in my book would mean: available as a keyword to be applied to the image.
In the Bridge book this would mean they should be present in the keyword list that shows in the keyword panel. Like Curt stated the keywords that are already saved to a file but are not persistent to the list show in italic, usually at the bottom of the list under 'other keywords'.
When you need to save keywords to files (whether brand new or old) you only have to select the files you want to have those certain keywords and put a checkmark in front of the keyword from the keyword panel (persistent or italic both work but for the italic to show you have to have files with those keywords in the folder as you have found out yourself by now) and let bridge finish its task to save the data to the files.
You can create your own keyword list on the go when working and use the menu or right mouse menu in the keyword panel to create a new keyword or nested sub keyword. If you have created this word it will stay present in this list (persistent) but you can also create or edit your list in a simple text editor. A main keyword starts at the beginning of the line, hit return for a new line and 1 x tab to create a sub keyword to nest in the parent. Further nesting in done by return and an extra tab for each nested keyword.
You can also export the current keyword list using the little menu icon top right to the keyword panel and choose export. Save it with a proper name and open this file in a text editor to get the idea of tabs and lines.
Sadly enough I don't know a way to export non persistent keywords (italic) but maybe the scripting has a solution for you, if you want to make it persistent to the list you have to do so one by one.
If you have created your own keyword tree it is also wise to every now and then back it up using the export function. You can also import a new list either to add to your existing words or to clear current and use only the new one.
btw, going back to what you mentioned originally in as far as bridge needing time to apply a keyword and finish its task...that doesn't even exist on my end. I'm running off 16 gigs of memory and have allotted a huge number for bridge to work with.
But still, multitasking is not a Bridge gem, if you start assigning keywords from the keywords panel after a few seconds the arrow starts rotating and you have to wait for it being finished, no matter what specs you have (and I use 32 GB RAM on a 12 core processor using SSD…) as soon as the first task starts the keywords that are getting applied need time to save to the files. If you start a new job before it is finished only half of the keywords will be saved.

Keyword problem

Major problem with keywording. I'm using the trial of 5.5 of lightroom. It was working fine with the first four directories of images I imported. Now I'm importing a directory of alphabet PNGs. I select all and add keywords. Save to file. Import a second alphabet directory of different PNGs. Enter keywords. Save to file.
I look back at my first directory which seemed to save the right keywords, and they have all changed to the keywords saved for the second directory. Same results if I remove directories and change their names. Same results if I remove directories and keyword in Bridge then import directories. Always both directories of the alpha graphics end up with the same keywords.
If I can't get this working, there is no sense in buying the trial, which I was about to do since it worked fine with the first four directories. Has anyone heard of a problem like this and is there an answer? Is there a place to email adobe for an answer if no one can figure it out?
Thanks trememdously for help!

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Bridge CS4 Search Not Displaying NEF Files + Keyword Problems

Hello, I am hoping someone can be of service to peculiar problem that apparently nobody else has had.
I am running Adobe Bridge CS4 (came bundled with Photoshop Elements 8) on a 2009 24 inch iMac with 4GB RAM and a 2.6mHz processor running Snow Leopard v10.6.2.
I use Adobe Bridge CS4 to add Keywords to all my photos and edit 14 bit Nikon NEF RAW files. I write the keywords to an .XMP sidecar
file.
Two days I ago I changed something in Preferences->Metadata and the next time I started Bridge CS4 and used the loupe tool on a NEF
file, it took longer than usual for the preview to come up and when it did, it was at 200% magnification instead of 100%. Once the loupe preview showed up, the NEF file had some sort of processing applied to it (it became more contrasted.) This was all within Bridge ant NOT Adobe Camera Raw. I quit the program and the next time I started Bridge, it crashed upon using the loupe tool. I looked up help on Adobe's website and it appeared I had corrupted preferences. Per Adobe's instructions I option clicked at Bridge startup to delete the preferences and purge the cache.
Everything appeared to be normal until today when I searched for a keyword and got 36 random results when I know I have hundreds of
photos tagged with that particular keyword. I started typing in other keywords and getting the same sort of results- very limited numbers of photos I have hundreds of. I always include all subfolders in all searches and used every search method available through Bridge to no avail. The searches always came up with a fraction of the photos I actually have tagged.
I then verified and repaired all disk permissions from the operating system installation CD and Bridge started returning results as
usual. However, when I clicked on an individual file in the Content pane, some of my Keywords started to appear in italics below the rest of my Keyword tree. There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason as to why some images will return the Keywords normally and others in italics. Also, sometime the italicized keyword tree will include keywords I edited due to typos and thus no longer existing my normal Keyword tree. I gave the "Make Persistent" command a try. It converts the italics to regular case, but it also doubles the tag so I now have two of that tag (one in the normal keyword tree, and the now converted italics keyword tree.)
Now I'm noticing that all my search results are not including NEF files; just JPEG and the occasional DNG file that I made through Adobe Camera RAW. I'm not sure if this has been the case throughout my problem or if I just noticed it late.
Regarding not displaying NEF files in searches, it appears that it will default to displaying JPEG if it has the option because as of lately I have only been shooting RAW and some of those files are showing up in the still-wonky searches (still displaying random or no photos of keywords.) However, if I manually navigate to a file, I can open and edit NEF files with no problem, they just don't display in any search modes.
Here's two short videos of what happens when I navigate a folder with NEF files by manually searching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDjUDZzULKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9HkDK7DCs
When I click on a NEF file, the one ahead of it in Content view processes into a more contrasty image and the loupe tool previews jump between 100% and 400% and then change to 100% when dragged or they just process themselves right then and there.

I am running Adobe Bridge CS4 (came bundled with Photoshop Elements 8) on a 2009 24 inch iMac with 4GB RAM and a 2.6mHz processor running Snow Leopard v10.6.2.
Snow Leopard and Bridge CS4 do have some issues. Some have no problems and others have much problems I'm afraid.
I use Adobe Bridge CS4 to add Keywords to all my photos and edit 14 bit Nikon NEF RAW files. I write the keywords to an .XMP sidecar file.
To my knowledge the keywords are written into the XMP Metadata that is saved in the IPTC section of file itself, the XMP data in the sidecar file contain the changes you made in ACR. In other words, the keywords you have added should still be there.
Also see this Knowledge Base article about Keywords:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/402/kb402660.html
Two days I ago I changed something in Preferences->Metadata and the next time I started Bridge CS4 and used the loupe tool on a NEF file, it took longer than usual for the preview to come up and when it did, it was at 200% magnification instead of 100%.
Changes metadata in prefs only affects the visability of the fields in the metadata panel. put or deselect a checkmark in front of an option will let you see or not see the field in this panel, the actual data and fields ar still in the file.
it was at 200% magnification instead of 100%. Once the loupe preview showed up, the NEF file had some sort of processing applied to it (it became more contrasted.) This was all within Bridge ant NOT Adobe Camera Raw.
You can change the magnification for the loupe to 100 / 200 / 400 and 800 % using the scrollwheel or with loupe active the + and - keys. Bridge shows the settings that you made in ACR. If you have changed the default Camera Raw setting it will also change the thumbs for this file. A thumbs needs some time to be cached. First it shows with a black border around, when first cached it shows the embedded preview and in the second round it renders the ACR settings and High Quality preview (if you have not disabled this setting). Caching needs some time.
Everything appeared to be normal until today when I searched for a keyword and got 36 random results when I know I have hundreds of photos tagged with that particular keyword. I started typing in other keywords and getting the same sort of results- very limited numbers of photos I have hundreds of. I always include all subfolders in all searches and used every search method available through Bridge to no avail. The searches always came up with a fraction of the photos I actually have tagged.
Maybe you need to let the indexing in find do its work again but it might also be a snow leopard issue. Try an other app (Digital Asset Management like Expresion Media or Portfolio) to check about the keywording and find. You can use a trial version for several days. You have several options to use find keywords. In the panel itself, in the filterpanel uner the keyword tab, when clicking on a visible keyword it only shows the files with that keyword or in the menu Edit / find (shortcut cmd + F) explore the options in this menu and also choose include non indexed and let Bridge start to index your files again.
However, when I clicked on an individual file in the Content pane, some of my Keywords started to appear in italics below the rest of my Keyword tree. There doesn't appear to be any rhyme or reason as to why some images will return the Keywords normally and others in italics. Also, sometime the italicized keyword tree will include keywords I edited due to typos and thus no longer existing my normal Keyword tree. I gave the "Make Persistent" command a try. It converts the italics to regular case, but it also doubles the tag so I now have two of that tag (one in the normal keyword tree, and the now converted italics keyword tree.)
Don't know about that.
Here's two short videos of what happens when I navigate a folder with NEF files by manually searching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDjUDZzULKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y9HkDK7DCs
When I click on a NEF file, the one ahead of it in Content view processes into a more contrasty image and the loupe tool previews jump between 100% and 400% and then change to 100% when dragged or they just process themselves right then and there.
As you can see the black border around some file that disappear after a while or when you select them they have not been cached. You used purge cache so most of your earlier cached results are gone and need to rebuild.

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