Dynamic calc member formula problem

Hello Gurús!
We are using a member called "Full Year" that is a Dynamic calc with a member formula that calls another dynamic calc. For any reason, it is not working when we try to retrieve it from Excel Add-in.
Any ideas? Any problem for put a Dynamic Calc as member formula of antoher Dynamic calc?
Thanks for your time!
Regards,
Ariel

that can be the problem, depending on what dimension they are in, the order the two pass occurs could couse you issues. In cases like this I've had to put the entire calculation into the member I wanted to calculate and bypass the dependency

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http://www.network54.com/Forum/58296/thread/1054220911/Datacopy+Problem
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