E- Recruitment 600 - External candidate creation

Hi All,
I created internal candidate and iam able to view the start pages of the internal candidate.
But when followed the similar steps to create external candidate iam facing lot of issues starting from User creation. can anyone share their inputs wrt ext candidate user creation and its related portal page.
thanks in advance.
kind regards
saipriyan

Hello Sai,
of course you are right that the standard functions to create an external candidte differ from creating an internal one. In the production scenarios there are basically 3 ways to create an external candidate:
- The candidate uses the registration where he registers to the candidate pool without actually applying to a position
- The candidate uses the unregistered search and applies for a position. In the process of applying the candidate is created
- The recruiter uses the minimum data entry functionality accessable through a link on his startpage to enter a hardcopy application into the system
These 3 scenarios are available for creating the external candidate but each of them requires a certain amount of configuration (e.g. unregistered search requires a properly set up TREX search engine) which usually takes some time.
On the very beginning of a project when the servers are installed and the basic configurations have been done, I usually test all standard start pages to see if the basic settings are ok. In this case all I want is the ability to log in and call the startpages. Then I use the described approach to just give an internal candidate which is usually my test user the authorization for the external startpage and I set the username as Alias so I can call the page. Of course next steps are creating the first requsition / posting / publication and test the application wizard (as said this requires the TREX set up or some help report to generate a direct application link). But overall for me I find it very handy to ba able to log on to all internal and external applications with my test user so I do not need to remember several logins as long I do not start testing full scenarios with applied authorization.
Best Regards
Roman Weise

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