Eap-tls wired 802.1x - certificate issue?

I have configured ACS 4.0 and an 2003 Enterprise root CA on the same server, successfully applied the GPO to auto-enroll machines with Computer certificates, and then enabled 802.1x security on Catalyst 3750s. Note this is for wired 802.1x.
If I reboot the machine, the EAP packets go through and you can see a successful authentication in the "Passed Authentications" log. However, if you disconnect the wire and then plug it back in, Windows gets stuck in "Validatiny Identity", and eventually a balloon pops up saying: "Windows was unable to find a certificate to log you on". Doing a 'sh dot1x interface ...' shows it is CONNECTING until the auth timeout is reached then it dumps the workstation into the guest vlan. Nothing is logged to Passed Authentications or Failed Attempts on the ACS server.
Basically, the only time the EAP-TLS machine authentication works is when you reboot the machine. And if you change the state of the port either by diabling/enabling from the workstation or switch, or unplug the cable and plug it back in, Windows does not seem to pass the certificate information along to the PAE.
This does not seem to happen when a user/client certificate is issued, only when it is a machine/computer certificate
Has anybody seen this before and have any solutions why Windows cannot recogonize the machine certificate properly?

We solved our WIRELESS problem by editing the following entrees. I sure this can be applied to the wired side somehow.
The information about the correct settings can be found in this Microsoft document:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/8e74974f-c951-48ce-8235-02f4ed8e74921033.mspx?mfr=true
The areas of interest are the SupplicantMode (EAPOL-Start Message) and AuthMode (what type of authentication to use) registry entries. These can be configured manually in the registry or applied via Group Policy.
This allows just the machine to authenticate (using a Cert all ready on the Machine) then we use our ACS server to auth the user via AD.
I am doing this wirelessly and using as long as you are using a WDS the following will be the result.
Roaming AP to AP I only lost 1 packet.
Roaming from Vlan to other Vlan I lost 5 packets (Different ip address)
Shutting the wireless off and back on I only lost 8 packets.
I thought this was a very good result. We will be launching our lab with 35 plus laptops in a classroom with 2 radios.

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    2. Authenticator - Cisco 6509 Switch
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    Problem:
    1. Supplicants fail to authenticate using EAP-TLS as the authentication method.
    Errors Seen:
    1. Cisco ACS Reports - Authen session timed out: Supplicant did not respond to ACS correctly. Check supplicant configuration.
    2. Cisco Switch Reports - dot1x-err(Gi3/39): Invalid Eapol packet length = 1490
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    1. Wireless Clients using the windows supplicant and EAP-TLS connect without any issue.
    2. ACS has certificates issued by 3rd Party Root CA - Geotrust.
    3. Clients have Certs issued by clients own CA infrastructure.
    4. ACS has the clients Root CA cert in the trust list and hence why the wireless users work.
    5. PEAP works fine on wired.
    Any pointers appreciated. Happy to share logs from Switch / Supplicant and ACS if needed.
    Thanks
    Volven

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