Edit/give EXIF comment with iPhoto 08
Dear all,
I am currently setting up a hotoblog (basically a simple web album...) using a relatively new photoblog software (still in the alpha-state...) that appears very powerful and simple to me - named "picoplog". The software simply scans a folder on the server, takes every subfolder in it as an album, and gives names to the album and the photos by the folder and file names.
Additionally, You can add a bit of further information by supplying an EXIF comment, which is read and displayed. The website states that this EXIF comment can be written by "any photo management tool" (including iPhoto) - but the developers don't have a Mac (yet... ), and I think that they're wrong: I tried hard the last weekend to make iPhoto write the comments I give to the EXIF header (I mainly store RAW files from my EOS, and export photos the JPEG or PNG) - but with no result.
My questions to You now: is it right that iPhoto does not write to the EXIF comment field? Is there a tool (plugin) that You are aware of that can do so? I tried it with Picturesync (from Holocore) - it supports a lot of Metadata - but obviously only as IPTC/XMP...
At the moment I am using EXIFtool by Phil Harvey, and an Apple Script (Tierprogramm by Florian Poeck) for simplification (no command line...) - but the usability is bad... at least for me, as I'd like to use the comments I have given (and still want to store) in iPhoto, and not comment any photo again with an additional program, because iPhoto ignores the (maybe simple-minded, but quite standardized...) EXIF-comments.
Do You have any suggestions to this? Thanks a lot - and enjoy Your day!
Björn
Hi, OldToad!
Thanks for Your information and contribution!
I tried what You wrote again with iPhoto 08, and want to show my results. According to those experiments, there does seem to be a difference between the comment and title iPhoto writes to a JPEG-file and the comment that I called "EXIF-comment" (I got the name and discrimination from the discription of the jhead-tool that has been named earlier in this thread). Well, here is my example:
1. I exported a JPEG file from iPhoto using the option "include keyword and title" checked; this file can be found on the photoblog system I am using under the following URL: http://marckgraph.de/pix/fr-uuml-hling/img-1101; the title is taken from the filename (I didn't change it...), but below it, there should be written the EXIF-comment, as is said on the homepage of this blog system that can be found at: http://daubau.it/picoplog/ - obviously, there is nothing. Still, if You click on my photoblog on "large size, You get the original JPEG file from the server (the blog makes a smaller JPEG to display, which strips some metadata from the file) - if You save this "original" image to the desktop and get the file-information (apple-i), You can see that the comment is in fact written into the file metadata - but not displayed in the blog.
2. I took the same file and processed it with the EXIFtool disussed above and added what is called the "EXIF-comment"; the file can be viewed at: http://marckgraph.de/pix/fr-uuml-hling/oberbaumbr-uuml-cke . Don't get confused - I also renamed the file, thus it has the title "Oberbaumbrücke" displayed now; the text written below the title is what I have added as "EXIF-comment" to the file, and what was named "EXIF-comment" on the blog; it gets expectedly displayed by the blog system...
I know it's confusing! Just wanted to show that the EXIF comments according to my experience seems to be sth. different from the JPEG-comments that iPhoto writes (the iPhoto metadata are obviously called IPTC - or sth. like that; this appears to me somewhat more modern, but I don't know...). Maybe I should consider asking the guys who develop this nice photoblog software if they want to consider supporting the IPTC metadata, if this is more modern... though I am not sure about that
Thanks for the information about iPhoto data backup. I use Timemachine here - and have hoped so far that this will keep me safe... I will try to go through Your recommendations again - sounds like sometimes iPhoto doesn't know what it's doing to the "new" library (which is a UNIX-package and not a simple "folder and subfolder" thing, as I have learned here before... - though I was told not to worry about it earlier...) BTW - I have everything in one album so far - is that a bad idea?
Okay - anyway, thanks again! And have a nice day!
Regards,
Björn
P.S.: Maybe an addition: I have heard from the guy writing the "Tierprogramm" (which is a graphical user interface for the EXIFtool named before) told me that he uses the EXIF-comment field to store the photographer information (for copyright purposes). Maybe that's what it is originally intended to be (thus: a copyright comment, not a description of image topics)...
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If you want to set the pics in a spot, then do that with the Finder and thereafter import them. You can use a batch file renamer such as FileList to rename the files prior to import.
and telling iPhoto to not import duplicates.
Using a Referenced rather than a Managed library means that iPhoto will not copy the files, but rather simply reference them on your HD. It will create an alias to the Original file, a thumbnail and, if you modify the pics, a Modified version.
However, you need to be aware of a number of potential pitfalls using this system.
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Always allowing for personal preference, I've yet to see a good reason to run iPhoto in referenced mode unless you're using two photo organisers.
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3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.
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By all means post again if you need more info.
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