Essbase Accounts Hierarchy -- Design Help
Hi All,Iam designing a P&L Cube & a Balance sheet Cube.I have a specific problem---Please read below1. In JDE, Account number is the combination of the BU , Object Account & Sub Account.Seems the unique number of accounts (with Account Numbers) are 1.5 million.Upto (Level 6 in JDE) , Accounts are standard across the Companies or business unitsOne company has several business units.Building hierarchy till level 6(level 6 means level 6 in JDE) may not be a problem in Essbase.The real challenge is after level 6,level 7 level 8 level 9 accounts are there & these are not standard for all business units. They differ for each business unit.For example,Bank Account ( suppose at level 6) for a BU 41100000 , BU 41000000 , BU 40000000Bankone (level 7 ) for the 4110000053 bank (level 7 ) for the 41100000Firstunion ( level 7) for 41000000FleetBank (level 7) for 41000000FleetBank (level 7) for 40000000So in this case how to achieve uniqueness vis-a-vis Essbase.Answer is : Account number which is the combination of the BU , object account & Sub accountBut what worries me is if we have 20,000 (suppose) Business units & we have level 7 accounts on an average 10 per BU, then which means we have to build 20,000 * 10 which is equivalent to 200,000.... if we think of level 8 , same logic continues....so when we build hierarchy.... for 1.5 million unique records we might end up having atleast 500,000 stored members, I think.My solution to this was not to go to level of detail after 6th level in JDE.What is your opinion?Did anyone come across such a situation. The Business people want to see the level of detail till level 9 of JDE & report also on that...What is the solution for this kind of problem??Notes : Levels in JDE are equivalent to generations in Essbase
I do something similar with JDE. I use short account id's in some cases to create uniqueness. I also have member names consisting of the full three tier account structure. My app is a read/write budgeting/forecasting application. Not sure what you are trying to do with your app. You can e-mail me if you havent't aleady figured out your [email protected]
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Essbase Accounts Hierarchy--- Design Issue
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I do something similar with JDE. I use short account id's in some cases to create uniqueness. I also have member names consisting of the full three tier account structure. My app is a read/write budgeting/forecasting application. Not sure what you are trying to do with your app. You can e-mail me if you havent't aleady figured out your [email protected]
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Accounts Hierarchy--Design Issue
Hi All,Iam designing a P&L Cube & a Balance sheet Cube.I have a specific problem---Please read below1. In JDE, Account number is the combination of the BU , Object Account & Sub Account.Seems the unique number of accounts (with Account Numbers) are 1.5 million.Upto (Level 6 in JDE) , Accounts are standard across the Companies or business unitsOne company has several business units.Building hierarchy till level 6(level 6 means level 6 in JDE) may not be a problem in Essbase.The real challenge is after level 6,level 7 level 8 level 9 accounts are there & these are not standard for all business units. They differ for each business unit.For example,Bank Account ( suppose at level 6) for a BU 41100000 , BU 41000000 , BU 40000000Bankone (level 7 ) for the 4110000053 bank (level 7 ) for the 41100000Firstunion ( level 7) for 41000000FleetBank (level 7) for 41000000FleetBank (level 7) for 40000000So in this case how to achieve uniqueness vis-a-vis Essbase.Answer is : Account number which is the combination of the BU , object account & Sub accountBut what worries me is if we have 20,000 (suppose) Business units & we have level 7 accounts on an average 10 per BU, then which means we have to build 20,000 * 10 which is equivalent to 200,000.... if we think of level 8 , same logic continues....so when we build hierarchy.... for 1.5 million unique records we might end up having atleast 500,000 stored members, I think.My solution to this was not to go to level of detail after 6th level in JDE.What is your opinion?Did anyone come across such a situation. The Business people want to see the level of detail till level 9 of JDE & report also on that...What is the solution for this kind of problem??Notes : Levels in JDE are equivalent to generations in Essbase
even though it might become a very sparsely populated cube, and I don't know if your business requirements would allow it, can you split the Accounts dimension across three dimensions: BU , Object Account & Sub Account?Or if you are using EIS to build the cube, to use Hybrid analysis to store levels in the hieracrhy relationally?
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Essbase import - Accounts Hierarchy missing
Hi all,
well I have a weird one: I'm importing Essbase 9.3.1. cubes into 10.1.3.3.2. and 10.1.3.4. and can't get the "Accounts" hierarchy to be represented correctly in the physical layer.
Normally, Essbase dimensions of type "Accounts" are to be represented as hierarchy objects in OBI EE upon import. I looked at Oracles demo DB (Oracle2go) plus Marks example ([http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/articles/rittman-essbase.html]) and Venkat ([http://oraclebizint.wordpress.com/2008/05/12/oracle-bi-ee-1013332-hyperion-essbase-connectivity-handling-measures-and-account-dimension/], [http://oraclebizint.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/hyperion-data-integration-management-931-loading-data-into-essbase-cubes-using-type1]) state the same.
What happens here is, that all the measures arrive flat after the import and I end up with my dimensions and hundreds of measures as physical columns.
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Anyone has got any thoughts on that?
Thanks in advance and cheers,
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Edited by: Christian Berg on Sep 19, 2008 3:41 PMDid you ever manage to solve this problem? I'm on the verge of starting on a similar initiative and from the info I gathered, it seems that this is as easy as just changing the dimension type of the "Account" dimension to "Other" on the cube itself within the Administrator - and define one of your other dimensions as a "Measures" dimension. I did a quick test and it seems to do the trick - maybe I'm missing something.
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Description on Essbase Account Dimension Properties
Hi everyone! I am a newbie on Oracle Hyperion and Essbase. I joined a company as a trainee software developer. And my role is to support my superiors in developing Planning and Budget Applications for Plantations of our company.
I tried my best to find places in internet where I can improve my knowledge in the application but there is no place I found as free since my company is not ready to give good professional training. so I decided to choose the forum where I guess I would get help.
My first question to ask is about Account Dimensions Properties,+_ what they do, what are their uses, what for an account type is used, where time balance is used etc.
Edited by: 930603 on Apr 27, 2012 10:51 AMHi,
Welcome to the world of Hyperion first i suggest you to start reading the essbase dbag, it will help you to understand what exactly the product do and also help you to understand the best optimum solution for your design & implementation
for Account Dimensions Properties
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17236_01/epm.1112/esb_dbag/frameset.htm?dotattrs.htmlThanks,
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GL Account Hierarchy related issue
Hi BI gurus,
The Scenario is like this:-
We are doing reporting for Profit&Loss based on GL Account Hierarchy (0GL_ACCOUNT).
The GL Hierarchy have Asset & Liability nodes.
The problem is that, in BW, regardless of credit or debit values, it will just display the report the same values on both nodes. so certain GL accounts (e.g. Cash Loan) would appear both side of the hierarchy - Asset node and Liability node.
Is there a way to make it so when we do reporting based on Hierarchy, when the value's Credit, shows on "Asset Node", and Value's Debit will shows on "Liability node"?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
VinceThanks for the info Yiannis, but I think I've found out the theory for this.
According to this [http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/04/7b95fb42b0f94aba334c0890dbbda4/content.htm|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/04/7b95fb42b0f94aba334c0890dbbda4/content.htm]
I have read through it, not fully understand how this works yet, but I think should be able to use the following:-
1. InfoObject 0GLACCEXT (instead of 0GL_ACCOUNT)
The exception aggregation (balance sheet aggregation) that is in effect here is only possible for the Financial Statement Item characteristic (technical name 0GLACCEXT). The hierarchy table for this characteristic contains a special attribute called Balance-Dependency of a Hierarchy Node (technical name 0BAL_DEPEND), which controls the balance sheet aggregation of the Financial Statement Item characteristic.
2. Virtual InfoCube 0FIGL_VC1 (will read data from 0FIGL_C01).
3. There is a balance sheet query available 0FIGL_VC1_Q0001, which displays the balance sheet data the same way as the R/3 report RFBILA00 does.
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sm32/helpdata/en/2d/955a73da4d6d41a0a6128caf274ce8/content.htm|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sm32/helpdata/en/2d/955a73da4d6d41a0a6128caf274ce8/content.htm]
Rgds,
Vince -
Hi BW Experts,
Our's is a BW 3.0B system connected to ECC 6.0. In BW we have a hierarchy defined for GL Account which has GL accounts listed in both Assets & Liabilities. This hierarchy is coming from ECC as designed by functional team. The client requirement is : When the GL Account is active with the hierarchy, it should not display the accounts in both Assets & Liabilities. It should only display the accounts in Assets( if it is an Asset Account) & Liabilities ( if it is a liability account). We are reporting on a multiprovider which has the basic infocube.
Example:
GL Account: 10001 - Bank .
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In BW, when the hierarchy is activated for the report, as the GL Account is manitained in both Assets & Liabilities: it would display the amounts under Assets -for Eg: 100001 - $1000.00
and also under Liabilities as: 100001 - $1000.00.
Is there a way to do this kind of reporting? Please let us know if anyone had came across a similar requirement or have a soultion for it.
Thanks,
BalaHi Bala,
I do understand you need. You cannot figure out the issue with GL Account. You definetly need to use 0GLACCEXT characteristic in a virtual infoprovider like 0FIGL_VC1. Then, you would have a chance to build your balance sheet report with hierarchy. This will prevent double assignment of GL account both in Assets and Liabilities.
Good luck,
MCA -
Tcode for Maintaining GL Account Hierarchy
Hi Gurus!
I just want to ask where can I find the Tcode for Maintaining GL Account Hierarchy in R/3.
Thanks.Hi,
I guess, there is no Hierarchy as such maintained for G/L Account, in order to create a G/L acct. you can use FS00 t-code, whereas as mentioned in the earlier response you can also check FSE3 t-code for respective assignment of the Financial statements for the 'Assets' and 'Liabilities' followed with the G/L acct.
Hope it helps..
assign points if useful..
Cheers,
Pattan. -
Error while deactivating Group account hierarchy
Hi,
I was executing an adhoc summary report(web report) where in I had to expand group account hierarchy upto node level 8.
When I tried to deactivate the group account hierarchy ,there is an error messages saying "an error occured during loading.Please look into the upper frame for further information" & "System error in program SAPLRRK0 and form SORTING_PRUEFEN_01-04-..."
Now I tried to go back to the variable selections from the toolbar, there is one more error message " the internal error is a targetted termination since the program has an incorrect status".
I executed the same report now Using Bex,
Using local view I selected group account hierarchy upto level 8 and executed.Later I deactivated the hierarchy and found report working fine with out any errors.
Can U some suggest me why only on web reporting iam encountering this error.Please suggest me a remedy.
ThanX N Regards,
SukuHi,
Have you entered "111111" in the filed group account number? If so, this account should be available / created in your group chart of account.
Hope it helps
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Uploading Account Hierarchy data
Hi all,
Can anyone tell me how to upload Account Hierarchy into BI.I have created a flat file with the Hierarchy structure but unable to upload.
The File format is
Node ID,Info Object Name,Node Name,Link Name,Top Node,From Ac,To Ac,Language, Short Text, Long Text,Description.
Kindly help me in this regard
Regards
AjoyHello,
SAP provides a very powerful tool to upload mass amount of data without any coding required : LSMW.
Furthermore, you can use this tool together with the Migration Workbench (tcode SXDA) to do parallel processing...
So why would you want to record anything, or create a Z program? Even if you need to implement your own rules, you can implement some coding within your mapping project... Many cookbooks about LSMW are available both on SDN and on the sap service market place (with sample files, etc.).
And for the record, here is of you can use this IDOC that I mentioned in my previous reply:
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Nicolas Busson. -
Account Hierarchy - Sumation behaviour
Hi Gurus,
This is quite simple but can't figure it out yet. As I display some data in a Report using an account hierarchy I noticed that Net income is expressed as the difference between "Pre Tax income" and "Taxes". So if Pre Tax is 10 and "Taxes" is 3 I get a calculated value of 7 in the calculated Account "Net incomne".
That's fine, but where it is said that this have to be sustracted. I guess that the system looks at the Account Type property. One is INC and the other is EXP. But I don't see any formula in the member, or any script logic in Default.LGF. I guess some customers prefer loading taxes as a negative amount and would like to control this behaviour.
If I change the taxes account to property "INC" (just to do a test) suddenly the report will display the taxes amount in red with a negative value and still get the same overall amount for the Net Income. So what's actually stored in the database..a negative or a positive amount?
Thanks for your comments.
Alberto SabateHi,
As I know acctype is used to format numbers on reporting. If acctype is set to AST or EXP it shows database values as they are and if is set to LEQ or INC it shows database values with reverted sign.
Accounting principles says an AST and EXP are positive and LEQ and INC are negative values so in database you should found this accounts with negative amount.
It seems like something like this is happenning in your case.
account database value acctype reporting value
NETINCOME -7 INC 7
pretax -10 INC 10
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account database value acctype reporting value
NETINCOME -7 INC 7
pretax -10 INC 10
Tax 3 INC -3
That makes sense.....
I hope it helps,
Regards,
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Would appreciate some clarification on the following topics:
(CRM 2007)
Territory Management:
I have created two partner functions: Sales Rep and Sales Assistant with Terr AFC: 000, however in crmm_terrman, as soon as I assign one partner function to a person of the position, the other person in the position acquires the same function. ie. I can not assign different partner functions to two different people in the same position.
Is this correct?
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Account Hierarchy Integration ECC C4C
We have been testing the new C4C account hierarchy integration with ECC that was delivered in 1405 with the COD_CUSTHIERMAS Idoc. We have the basic integration working, but find we have many conflicts when running the ECC program RCOD_CUSTHIER_CHECK because our hierarchies are maintained across multiple sales areas. Are there plans to make the C4C account hierarchy sales area specific like it is in ECC in a future release? Do you have any recommendations if not?
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I've forwarded to our product owner to verify.
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Hello Experts,
Can someone please help me find out if it In Tcode: F9H1/F9H2, it is possible to create an account hierarchy with sub account in different currency than the Root account?
I am getting the following error when I try to create an account hierarchy with different currencies in root account(USD account) and subaccount(GBP account)
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Hope this helps!
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