EX1 - FCP - CS4

Hi,
I am just starting out with animation after working with motion (all be it the basics) for a while and I am looking to buy Adobe After Effects CS4 Mac, but have a couple of technical questions.
I edit using FCP and with an EX1 (XCAM footage - native gop) - I have heard there may be a problem using all three in conjunction as CS4 doesn't support the codex. Could you help please?
I have searched online, although have only found one forum which recommends converting to ProRes422 and importing into CS4.
Will this effect the quality of the end result and what settings would you then use to encode to SD DVD - seeing as i've had so many problems trying to get great results!
I wondered if someone might be able to help.
Many thanks

I have a similar problem with HQ EX1 footage. in my case, the problem crops up when shooting lengthy events where the continuous footage ends up being split between two SxS cards. For some reason PPro CS4 has trouble after importing the long file into the project. The culprit seems to be the "importerprocessserver.exe". It locks up after importing the lengthy split clip and prevents further preview. PPro itself doesn't crash. Shorter EX1 footage works fine. It is strange that the split clip seems to import successfully, however the moment I try and preview it the "importerprocessserver" locks up and no further preview is possible (of any footage).
My workaround has been to move the folder containing half of the split file to another hard drive and import it separately. PPro no longer sees the split files as linked and imports them individually. When I do this I have no difficulty editing EX1 footage.
I'll be submitting a bug report on this today.

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Please help, EX1 + PremPro CS4.1 NO Preview while editing.

So, I am wondering what is the best sequence settings for ex1 cam. I am having a ton of problems with cs4 and am thinking (PRAYING) it is a user error.
Project: 2hr long recital where we had three Sony EX-1 cameras. All shooting 1920x1080p (HQ). And there are two shows, but I'll edit them in different projects.
In CS3, I would start the project and just pull the footage in... no problem everything played fine. Then when I upgraded to CS4 it was CHOPPY to the point I could not edit.
Sequence Settings: General:
Editing Mode: Desktop. But was the EX1 1920x1080 hq by default... but that wasnt working. So far, Desktop is the only thing that has even let video show up... if I import only 25minutes of footage, it plays back smooth! NOTHING has worked like this, so is Desktop the way to go?
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I really do think this is where the problem is. The video is killing me, audio plays back like a champ (if i turn off the video and press play). I dont know enough about this to know if I am correct or not. Should I do I-frame or AVI? and if AVI which Codec? Also, should i click max bit depth and render quality? i'd assume no for a preview.
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I am on my way to work now to get CS3 to downgrade. /sigh.

I have a similar problem with HQ EX1 footage. in my case, the problem crops up when shooting lengthy events where the continuous footage ends up being split between two SxS cards. For some reason PPro CS4 has trouble after importing the long file into the project. The culprit seems to be the "importerprocessserver.exe". It locks up after importing the lengthy split clip and prevents further preview. PPro itself doesn't crash. Shorter EX1 footage works fine. It is strange that the split clip seems to import successfully, however the moment I try and preview it the "importerprocessserver" locks up and no further preview is possible (of any footage).
My workaround has been to move the folder containing half of the split file to another hard drive and import it separately. PPro no longer sees the split files as linked and imports them individually. When I do this I have no difficulty editing EX1 footage.
I'll be submitting a bug report on this today.

Premiere Pro CS4 does not import EX1 files longer than 1 hour

I had to record a long speech and used a Sony XDCAM HD EX1 camera with a 32 Gb and a 16 Gb SXS cards. The speaker paused after 1h 26 min. I stopped the recording and waited until the green light that allows recording the segment came on. Later I recored smaller segments.
I copied all the recorded files to the PC hard disk ( Intel Quad Core 2.4 Ghz with 3.25 GB RAM with XP Proofessional SP3).
I used Sony Clip browser to watch the clips and all of them were perfect. Then I opened premiere Pro CS4 4.21 and I wanted to import this 27 GB file. In the media browser appeared only one mp4 file. All the short ones where imported normally but the big one freezed premiere and the only way to close premiere was with the windows task manager.
I checked again in the Sony XDCAM clip browser version 2.6 and you can see it perfectly. There was a detail, though: in the lower part of the preview window I saw 6 marks. When I checked the file in the disk, I found that the 27 Gb file was separated in 7 parts. Each of them was 3.51 Gb and the last one 2.5 Gb. That means that the file was cut in pieces that were less than 4Gb supposed max file lenght.
I tried many ways to import and no result. The I used the "export " of the sony clip browser. There is one choice that is "MXF for XDCAM HD". When I chose this item another panel appeared and showed a 1440 X 180 59.94i 25Mbps choice. I took it and after some time it created the 27 Gb file that I could import it normally with 4 audio tracks. But there is a drawback a "media concept" logo appeared to remeber to "buy" the program.
Anyhow, the question is: How can I import to Premiere CS4 a MP4 file created by a Sony EX1 HD camera whose lenght is more that 1 hour long ?
Thanks
Wolfgang

I think is the contrary because the clip browser copies all the foleders needed. I got this opinion from another forum that copies into Final Cut:
"My workflow is to create a hard drive folder for the project, then use Clip Browser to import the clips from the card. I review the clips, labelling them, adding logging notes, setting the status and putting in essence marks as needed (the number of characters available for the essence mark description is fairly limited). I then open FCP, create and save a new project then call up XDCAM Transfer. I select the project folder and it will pull in all the clips. I then filter for OK status, occasionally create subclips then import. The clips come over to the bin, with their names and with the essence marks converted to markers. Obviously there are backups taken - I've not mentioned them."

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Hi,
welcome to the discussion area.
You need FCP 6.0.2 or higher.
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G.

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Been reading up on the fcp7 and cs4 changes regarding this.
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I have looked online in various places and the general consensus seems to be that if you import the entire folder and then, although you still get the "unsupported or damaged file" error message, the files should show up ok.
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Be sure you use the Sony XDCam EX Clip Browser software to import the footage, as opposed to drag & drop the folders/clips.
Theoretically, you should be able to just D&D the BPAV folder, but there have been reports of wierd problems doing it that way.
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Hi,
I have heard it suggested on forums that presently FCP has a preference to convert HDV to prores and that if you want to work with GOP, the files have to be converted to prores in compressor for the workflow?
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I have heard it suggested on forums that presently FCP has a preference to convert HDV to prores and that if you want to work with GOP, the files have to be converted to prores in compressor for the workflow?
When capturing from HDV via Firewire you have the option to capture as native HDV, Apple Intermediate Codec (AIC) or Apple ProRes 422. All of these formats are natively supported formats that you can easily work with in FCP. Your post title suggests that you are actually working with an EX1 and so would not be capturing HDV via Firewire. With the EX1 your basic choice would be direct clip transfer via the Sony's Log and Transfer plugin or by using Sony's XDCAM Transfer app, neither of which provide transcode during capture to any other codec. Such captured footage would have to be transcoded after capture, using Compressor or similar, if you wished to work natively in a different format. Alternatively you could use a third party I/O device to capture your footage to another format via the camera's HD-SDI output.
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FCP handles working with native HDV easily. With FCP 6 you also have the option of choosing to work with the native HDV and have FCP handle all rendering using the Apple ProRes 422 codec. Another option in FCP is the Open Format Timeline, which like the rendering option above, allows you to edit with the native HDV clips directly in an Apple ProRes 422 timeline. Your MacBook should be fast enough to handle any of the above workflow choices, though my recommendation for you would be to work in a native HDV timeline with renders set to ProRes. That set up would probably provide the maximal performance for your system.
Also, if I work with native GOP and set the render to prores 442, will this have any effect on the performance on FCP (bearing in mind the speed of my machine)?
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    At first, i am sorry for my poor english, hope u will get me.
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PP CS4 will told me about *.XMP, *.BIM, *.XML, *.SMI coudn't be import. Error Message says: File format not supported.
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video can be import and playing, but it just has sound and without video.
That is weird. I have never experienced that.

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