EXCISE POSTINGS IN VENDOR RETURN CASE

I have made GR, Capture&posted excise and stock is sent to QI.Now quality has rejected the lot and need to sent back to vendor, i have done it using 122 mvmt type .
Now i have posted the excise invoice using J1IS using the reference document as material document generated during the 122 mvmt type.
Then i posted the excise invoice using J1IV.
My question is how to see the original PART II entry made during the 101. Also the reversal amounts are not reflected in Part 2.
As i want to check the BED etc amounts reversed/posted during the reversal process.As these amounts not reflects in RG23A PART II Register. Hence we cannot understand the Debit Entry Number of the same.
Where we can find the effects of Goods return in this case.
Regards,
Bhasker
Edited by: Bhasker Basava on Aug 22, 2008 10:01 AM

My question is how to see the original PART II entry made during the 101. Also the reversal amounts are not reflected in Part 2.
1.You have to extract the register RG23A or RG23C PartI & Part II registers by TCode J2I5 - Inputs should be the excise group & date.
2.Then use Tcode J2I6 - Print excise registers, select the respective radio button & execute.Give the inputs excise group & date ranges, select the radio button Script form or excel form . Here u can see the entries of both 101 GR & reversal 102.
3.You can also use J1I7 - list of excise invoices, give the inputs - excise group, date & select the radio button part1 & part2 posted.
.Where we can find the effects of Goods return in this case.
As u did the return delivery with outgoing excise invoices, this will be stored in the separate Gl accts payable . This will be offsetted at the time of Cenvat utilization J2IUN.

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check SPRo>Logistics - General>Tax on Goods Movements>India>Account Determination>Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction
here check that u have given proper acct
also check the plant u have gievn and excise grp
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2. MIGO - Goods Receipt > Purchase Order (Returns PO) (Here system will hit Mvmt type "161" and you can also select Un-restricted/blocked stock from where you want to return the stock)
3. J1IS u2013 Excise Invoice Other Movements
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Ref.doc.type - MATD
Doc Number - Material document No of 161 mvmt
Doc Year
Series Group
Excise Group
Vendor
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5. MIRO - Credit memo w.r.t. Returns PO.
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At the time of GR (MIGO);
Stock A/c - Dr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
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CENVAT Receivable A/c - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
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GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr
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GR/IR Clearing A/c - Dr
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CENVAT Clearing A/c - Dr
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Vendor A/c - Dr
GR/IR Clearing A/c - Cr
CENVAT Clearing A/c - Cr
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