Freight Postings for vendor returns

Hello Experts,
Currently when we do a GR for a PO using 101 Mtype, we get the following postings.We have created a frieght condition to post to an accrual account
Stock Posting(+)
Uninvoiced Posting(-)
Price difference(+/-)
Frieght posting(-)
This works fine
When we do a good return to vendor using a Mtype 161 which creates an auto PO, the postings are as given below
Stock Posting(-)
Uninvoiced Posting(+)
Price difference(-/+)
Frieght posting(-)
We were expecting to see the fright condition positive
The above case is not fine. As we are paying frieght twice instead of getting the paid frieght back for returns. This works fine for 101 and 122 mtypes but its not working with 161. Please advise how this can be resolved
Thanks
Rahul

You are right,you can opt for returns 122 movement due to quality reasons when material is GR but invoice is not done,
Whereas goods returns through p.o(161 movement) is done when you do goods returns after invoice posting.
But accounting entries were correct for both cases.
How frieght is considered for your business ?

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Hi All,
In Subcontracting, components are sent to vendor using Mov Type 541, if vendor returns the components without any value addition we recieve the goods with Mov type 542.
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- Note 1090988 - Pooling: Quality inspection for return delivery not possible
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