Export Catalog - Virtual Copies

Hi. If you export a group of photos as a Catalog, does this export all virtual copies including their own repsective xmp data? I need to send a batch of RAW files to someone but need them to be able to see all the virtual copies as well.

Yes, export as catalog takes the respective VC's with it. Remember they exist in the catalog only.

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  • Issue exporting original & virtual copies

    I am using Lightroom 3.6 and do the following:
    - I selsect a photo  "test.cr2" and rate it 2 stars
    - create a virtual copy of this photo and modify it (the virtual copy) and rate it 3 stars
    Now I use different Export settings to export my 2 stars and 3 stars photos in jpg.
    So I first select all my 3+ stars photos and export them:
    - here my virtual copy gets selected and exported to my destination folder as "test.jpg"
    Then I select all my pictures (1 to 5 stars) and export them  too (but with different export options such as 'post-prcessing'). And I specify that existing pictures has to be ignored in the Export options since I don't want my previous batch to be overriden. And here 2 things happen:
    - the original photo is tentatively exported as "test.jpg" (same name!) --> the file already exists, so "ignored"
    - the vitual copy is exported as "test-2.jpg"
    Finally, I end up with 2 photos "test.jpg" and "test-2.jpg" in my destination folder but they are actually the same and both issued from the virtual copy...
    There are probably easy work-arounds to this situation - like split exports 3 to 5 stars and then 1 to 2 to avoid overrides. But... is it possible to keep constency in the naming convention of the exported files?
    i.e if an exported file orginates from a virtual copy, always use "xxxx-2" even if the orginal is not exported at the same time
    Tks & cheers

    Sounds like a bug, that Beat's work-around would probably circumvent.
    The problem I have with using the copy name, is that it can't be conditioned upon whether the photo is in fact, a virtual copy, or even: if the copy-name is blank.
    So if you have:
    {base-name} ({copy name}).{ext}
    then if the master is named MyPhoto.DNG (with no copy name), and has one virtual copy named "Copy 1", then jpeg exports will be named:
    MyPhoto ().jpg
    MyPhoto (Copy 1).jpg
    -bleck-tooey...
    I have special virtual copy name handling in all my export plugins, but I think Adobe should address this in Lightroom proper.
    R

  • Are Virtual Copies saved in Backups? How do I insert a backup into an existing catalog?

    Are Virtual Copies saved in Backups? How do I insert a backup into an existing catalog
    I deleted a tif image file that I didn't intend to, which had several LR virtual copies created from it. The virtual copies had a lot of important history that document my print preparation edits. Are these virtual copies saved in the LR backups?
    If so, how can I insert them into the catalog I am using? I have made a lot of edits in the two days since my last backup and don't want to lose that history either. Do you suggest I make a current backup before retrieving files from my last backup? I know I'm supposed to go to the backup location and open the last backup, but how do I blend that with the current work from the last 2 days?
    Any help would be most appreciated. Thanks, Tom

    Rob,
    That was exactly what I was after. However, I'm still having trouble getting the virtual copies imported. The master file was in my trash, I restored it to the original hard drive folder. Before I got your message I re- imported it to LR but of course LR came up with a new name since I was importing from and saving it to the same folder in LR. And of course no copies. This may have been a mistake, but before starting the procedure you described, I re-named the master file (it seemed that the import from backup would re-create it so I didn't want  a conflict).
    Then I did what you said and used the 'Import From Another Catalog' feature. I found the virtual copies in the backup and checked them. But when the import completed, the it gave me file names  xxx/Copy1, xxx/Copy2 but there was no image or history or metadata. When I tried to find the folder containing the files, it said it couldn't be found. So I missed something in the settings. When I tried again, there was a warning saying the file(s) exists in the catalog and its settings differ. I went ahead anyway and the message I got was "No Photos in previous import"
    Here's what the import from backup shows:
    A box with catalog contents and all the folders and files within them, that you can check.
    A New Photos section, which gives 2 file handling choices: a)add new photos to the catalog without moving them or b) don't import new photos
    A Changed existing photos section with 2 replace options: a) nothing or b) Metadata and develop setting only. If you choose this you can check a box to preserve old settings as a virtual copy.
    Not sure what to do. I changed the master file back to its original name, but that didn't make a difference. Suggestions? Thanks, Tom

  • Create several virtual copies at once. Looking for a workflow of exporting 650 photo's in two versions

    Hello,
    i have photographed a wedding and i have 650 finished photo's. All came from a 5Dm3 of 5Dm2. All are in raw. The color versions are ready. I have created a preset to convert all 650 edited version to B/W. The key is i will not edit the curve and other light and contrast sliders because, and cropping for that sense since these are all done already. So to make it more simple, i need to silver 650 photo;s in color and B/W. The color versions are done.
    I am looking at three workflows:
    1 create virtual copies of the 650 photo's, filter them out, apply the b/w preset/ make some small tweakes and export the B/W version
    2 export the color version to a 16 bit tiff, import those and the apply the b/w preset/ make some small tweakes and export the B/W version
    3 make an extra copy of the lightroom library and then apply the b/w preset/ make some small tweakes and export the B/W version
    In option one i do not know how to create 650 virtual copies at once. It seems i can do this only one photo at a time which is to time consuming
    In option 2 this is an extra batch and consuming me much more hard disk space
    in option three this is workable but i rather stick to one library
    Any help in this?
    Thanks!!
    Ronald

    Go to the library module, grid view. Highlight all your images and create a new collection. One of the options when you create the new collection is to make new virtual copies. The collection will consist of virtual copies of all your original files. Then, just work with the collection and create your black-and-white images. The virtual copies can be exported just like the regular images. So you can export color and black-and-white versions.

  • Virtual Copies search and export...

    Hi,
    The underscores I'm using in my filenames seems to be messing up the sort order. So I want to replace the underscores with dashes. LR can't do this in its rename utility, afaik. If I do this externally, then I need to re-associate the images in LR's database with the files on the disk. I have about 5000, so don't want to do this on a file-by-file basis. However, if I remove all the images from the LR database and re-import everything, I'll lose the virtual copies, won't I? (I can export the metadata and keywords to sidecar files, so won't lose them.)
    So here's my first question: Is there a way to export the data for a virtual file to an associated sidecar file that LR can later read back in? My other thought is to convert all the virtual copies to tiff files (eat a lot space that way). Either way, I need to find all my virtual copies. So my last question is: Is there a way to search for, or filter on, just virtual copies in LR?
    Thanks,
    Michael

    re virtual copies, the answer is No is 1.0 but Adobe understand the problem and I'm hopeful you'll see a method before long. For now, you have to do something immediately after VC creation - add to a collection, mark the IPTC instructions, or add an appropriate keyword.
    The sort order shouldn't be messed up by underscores. I assume they are in a consistent position in the filename - I use yymmdd_012345 quicl description.ext. Are you sure you are sorting by filename - see the toolbar (T) in Library.
    John

  • Find and export Virtual Copies: Easy to add and ( i would argue) Necessary

    I haven't found an easy way to go back and easily select all virtual copies in a library in order to export them.
    A virtual copy is easy to miss and sometimes its hard to remember where you made changes in a large collection.
    There needs to be a search option for file types in LightRoom that can find the virtual copies and allow them to be collectively exported as real copies.
    If not a search function, then please simply insert a "save all virtual copies" option in the export area. Perhaps it could have the option to export all to their respective original file's folder OR to a designated edits folder with some tag to refer to the original location.
    I would very much appreciate an official adobe contact if at all possible :-/

    You can filter out Virtual Copies using a button on the filter bar located in the bottom right corner of the Lr application window (just above the filmstrip). Click a folder (folder panel) to narrow the filter to a specific folder or subfolders or the top most folder to show all virtual copies. You'll also find the second button will show only Master photos.

  • Virtual Copies come first in exported files?

    Is there a good reason why virtual copies, which come after the original file in the Library, are named in a way that causes them to come before in the exported set of jpegs?  IE - ogfile.jpg and ogfile-2.jpg.  When sorted by filename, the virtual copy is first!  This totally counterintuitive.  The original files should get a -1 suffix or the virtual copy should be named sequentially.  Or am I missing something?

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this!
    I suppose I should add that I generally have a manually ordered final set of files - edited, complete with virtual copies, ordered, and, as a last step, batch renamed in the Library (Custom_Name + #Sequence), to take on the new order.  In this case, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the exported set to be identical to the Library arrangement.  After all, I do take care in putting everything in a consistent, coherent order, so my clients can make sense of their (gigantic) image sets.
    So my options to acheive this are as follows 1) add a -1 to everything (huge sets with hundreds if not 1,000+ images)  2) manually add a -1 to the original file, requiring changing (and changing back!) the custom rename settings, or renaming from Bridge and syncronizing 3) manually rearrange the exported jpegs, batch rename (again!).
    Or, alternatively, Lr could 1) rename the files in such a way during the batch rename in the Library, that will hold their order after export (ie treat the VC as a unique file, at least for renaming purposes) 2) add the -x suffixes so the files hold their order after export.
    Lr could do this intelligently, seamlessly, and without user intervention.  And it should!
    Thanks again for not ignoring me!

  • Virtual copies exported in Win7 appear to lose edits

    When I export virtual copies IN LR5, all seems well.  The Library Grid view shows the new copies of the original image with the various changes I have made in Develop.  This is also true for the brief folder view that LR5 pops up at the end of the export.  But, when I later view the same folder with the Win7 Computer utility, or any other editor, these files all appear the same as the original!  No changes evident.  So it appears that I have missed some step in the export process to "fix" the changes in the virtual copies to the new files?
    Kelly Cook

    I know they should be different after export.  I expected them to be different.  Could the original file type be an issue?  My original was a JPG, not RAW.  The Library mode let me create virtual copies, the same a using a RAW file.  And, Develop let me make all the usual adjustments to the virtural copies, same as if they had been RAW.  Export did not put up any warning flags either, appeared to function normally, even though I was exporting JPG virtual copy to JPG.  I did use unique filenames (appended the Copy text) for each of the exports, so there should not be any confusion there.  Is some extra step needed to export a JPG virtual copy to JPG?  Or is this an undocumented issue?

  • A way to merge edits in virtual copies back the the original dng

    I have a large set of images from a recent job (all with varying edits). My client if there was a way to take the final set of images an apply a variety of different lightroom edits to compare against the original set. I made selected my full set of original dng files and created several virtual copy sets and placed them in separate collections. After making a variety of tests the customer has decided on one of the virtual copy sets. Is there a way to merge the edits in the virtual copy set back to the original dng files? Is there a way to make a virtual copy set into its own set of dng files.
    Jim

    Is there a way to make a virtual copy set into its own set of dng files.
    A very quick way is to either export originals (or as dng, which does the same thing in this case) on the virtual copy set, which will give you a folder on your harddisk with "edited" dngs (I quote this because there is no such thing as edited dngs. The RAW data is untouched, there is just a develop recipe along with a jpeg preview saved into the file). Another way is to export the collection of virtual copies to a new catalog. You can include the originals if you want, or you can simply leave them in place if you don't want to double the needed storage space. You'll get a new catalog with just the virtual copies in it, but they will be masters at that point. Then you write metadata to file from this newly exported catalog.

  • Virtual copies disappeared when I synchronized folders - any idea why?

    I am in the process of learning to work with the LR3 catalog, but in the meantime, I still occasionally work with the folders on my computer. I moved some photos from one folder to a sub folder at the system level, and when I went back to LR I needed to synchronize the folders because of the change. After the sync was complete, I noticed all of my virtual copies in LR had disappeared. Is there an option to save the virtual copies during synchronization that I am missing? Or do I need to save each virtual copy with a new name before I sync anything? I would so appreciate any help on this as I know the virtual copy feature will be a very useful tool for me in the future. Thanks for any help!!

    Thank you for your answers. I definitely understand now that sync will not preserve my virtual copies, but I will somehow need to come up with a different way to manage my folders. I know that LR empasizes using the catalog as the main source for working with your photos, but the reason that doesn't work for me is that I do not always need to be in LR when I am working with my photos. Not only that, but my husband and daughter also use my photo folders on occasion, so I need to have easy access for them. Neither one of them are familiar with LR, so I use my folders to organize the photos in a way that they could find them without having to access LR. For example, I edit photos for my daughter's online business. When I am done editing, I put them in a folder for her to use that only contains the edited versions so she doesn't have to wade through the other pictures. That is much easier than teaching her how to find them in LR and then export the ones that she needs, making sure she is doing it all correctly without messing up my catalog or system folders.
    The other reason I prefer to organize my folders from my hard drive is that I prefer the viewing program in Windows. I get much bigger views of the photos than I do in LR without having to hide any other tools, boxes, etc. When I want to see the largest view possible I just double click the photo, then use my arrow key to scroll through any others. In LR, I have to hide all the additional stuff on the screen.
    I think I will go back and re-read the section on Collections. Hopefully that will be what I need to save my virtual copies as I create them. Or maybe I should make snapshots of them when I try different presets. Will Collections or Snapshots be preserved when I sync the folders?
    Thanks again for your time!

  • Virtual copies not visible

    Oh God, can some one PLEASE help me???I can't contact Adobe by phone,m too late and it says everyone else busy, try later...right. 
    I DID review as much as I could possibly read, and NOTHING is of help.
    1. Made virtual copies, count goes up, can't see them in grid in library, develop, or in loupe.  Thought they were stacked, but when I went to Photo>stacking> the rest is all grayed out...can't do anything.  "set as master copy" also grayed out,.  Read somewhere "preferences for lightroom might be corrupt"????   I tried to do the thing in the library to correct the preferences,:(on moubntain lion 10.8.3), but in the user file there is no library...so I then looked up how to find the hidden library, but I can't  find the stuff to do THAT!!!  And, there IS a library on my hard drive, but when I open THAT up, there isn't anything about preferences.
    I JUST bought this 2 mos ago--how can it have corrupt preferences when I only just started using it???--used it once, then discovered diddn't have right processor in old computer...bought a new computer...took several weeks to get (bought increased ram)...now I am just using for first time today.  Started importing, but they are all coming up missing photoi (when I had lightroomn installed on old computer, I deleted uit and pics), then reinstalled and it was migrated over to this new computer.  I looked up how to massive transfer missing photos and there is NO folder with a question mark, so I have to do hundreds and hundreds manually--can I tell you I am really hating LR4.4????? Right now I am hating photography and LR and I am beyond upset.  I got back from vacation a month ago, and STILL haven't been able to process my pics!!!
    Disgruntled King Tut's Mom---p.s.PLEEZ help be4 I have a nervous breakdown !!!

    thanks...very strange.  so first, I found a thread that said could have corrupt preferences...the short of it:  caslled Apple support--he showed me how topull out the hidden "library (it wasn't that easy as it was written on a webpage here).  I found LR preferences and they were corrupt--there was almost nothing in them.  Followed instructions on webpage here, and redid them and it looked QUITE different!
    Thwn by accident I discovered that if I click on ALL photographs, the virtual copies were there, but not in the 2013 folder specifically.  don't understand that.  I later closed out and restarted, and now they are everywhere they are supposed to be, so I think it was the corrupt prefderences.  Also, now the mouse is working on the actual photo again......VERY odd.
    However, I am afraid to download anymore pictures because of what has been happening...the question mark, then another box telling me the metadata has been changed by both LR and another application, and do I want LR to import settings from disk or overwrite disk setrtings with those from the catalog?  I have no idea what this means...what does it mean, disk?. or from catalog?  Does it mean there were these pics still somewhere else on my computer and LR is confused?  I sure am.  The drink sounds very good......
    CAN ANYONE HELP??
    King Tut's mom

  • Virtual copies naming issue

    When I created a virtual copy of an image in LR3, and then I renamed the images, the virtual copies would have the new name with a hyphen.
    i.e if there were two virtual copies associate with the file, the renamed sequence would be as follows jcp0001, jcp0001-1(vc), jcp0001-2(vc), jcp0004
    This had the advantage of keeping my file numbers in sync when I uploaded them to my online lab (Pictage) and the client gave me a file name.
    In LR4 renaming sequencing doesn't take into account the virtual copies in terms of the chronological # and compensating for the vcs. So the same sequence would be jcp0001, jcp0001-copy(vc), jcp0001-copy2(vc), jcp0002
    This has the affect of misaligning my files with those of the online host. I have searched for how to adjust this, but cannot find a solution.
    Anyone know of one?
    Many thanks in advance!
    Justine

    The copy names are included in the exported filenames, but the way they are named by LR has changed from LR3 to LR4. The numbered sequence no longer "counts" the virtual copies as taking up a chronological number space. I know it's really confusing to explain!
    But think of it this way, LR now counts the first master file as 0001, and the next master file as 0002, but there are 2 virtual copies of 0001. So when I export them, master file 0002 is really the 4th file in the list, and then I have a discrepancy between my hard drive files and the ones online the client is seeing (they see it as image 0004, when it's really file 0002). Does that make the problem clearer?
    Thanks,
    Justine

  • Deleting Virtual Copies From Library, Burning Collections & Part of Library

    Hello! I am new to this software; I have LR 2.0
    From the library, I selected/highlighted the photos that I wanted to put into a new collection, then clicked the plus symbol above "Collections." I was then asked if, when putting the selected photos into that collection, I wanted to make a virtual copy in the library. I wasn't exactly sure what this meant, so I checked the box. Now, obviously, I have duplicates of all of my selected photos in my library. My collections folder turned out just how I wanted. However, I would prefer not to have a cluttered library. Is there a way to delete the virtual copies without removing them from my collection?
    Also, I plan on burning a disc for a client. I want to include the entire photoshoot (what's in the library) but I would also like to have a sub-folder on the CDROM of my selected favorites/best (which remain in the collection.) How can I do this? Do I export the collection folder separately?
    Thank you!

    Hello! I am new to this software; I have LR 2.0
    From the library, I selected/highlighted the photos that I wanted to put into a new collection, then clicked the plus symbol above "Collections." I was then asked if, when putting the selected photos into that collection, I wanted to make a virtual copy in the library. I wasn't exactly sure what this meant, so I checked the box. Now, obviously, I have duplicates of all of my selected photos in my library. My collections folder turned out just how I wanted. However, I would prefer not to have a cluttered library. Is there a way to delete the virtual copies without removing them from my collection?
    Also, I plan on burning a disc for a client. I want to include the entire photoshoot (what's in the library) but I would also like to have a sub-folder on the CDROM of my selected favorites/best (which remain in the collection.) How can I do this? Do I export the collection folder separately?
    Thank you!

  • Creating unique names for virtual copies

    I utilze three different sets of images for most jobs: the raws, the thumbnails I upload for client review and the jpgs I send out for prints. I like to match the filenames so there is no confusion.  Unfortunately my gallery (smugmug pro) also assigns a unique # to each upload.  When I use virtual copies to ceate alternate versions of certain images they are named copy 1 or copy 2 in LR and the preceding # is dropped from the sequence, so when I upload the thumbnails, the gallery #s no longer match the filename # below. I always instruct my clients to ordeer selections from the filename but enough of my retail clients have become confused that it is becoming irritating. So I was wondering if there is a way to overide the LR presets and assign individual names to the virtual raws and the jpgs?

    OK You are confusing the file name with the SmugMug URL. When you publish to SmugMug you are exporting a new jpeg so your virtual copy is irrelevant unless you have a method of linking it with what your client is viewing. That probably means not changing the original camera file except for the number of different edits you make; which Lightroom does automatically.
      

  • Retaining Virtual Copies

    Something Sean McCormack wrote about losing data, made me wonder why can't LR save virtual copies.
    If LR could write a VC xmp file to go alongside the main XMP file or better if LR could write the VC data into the main XMP file, then the problem of losing VCs if one need to rebuild catalogues would be solved.
    If one could also save collections data as a text file to reimport in case of catalogue failure/corruption/back up problems, that would be good too.
    In fact a single export button for all prefences, setttings, presets, collections, keywords would be great.
    [For all your products in fact as it's such a time consuming task to redo all one's personal settings and tweaks. PS lost them all the other day, for no reason that I can think of. Don't recall PS crashing or anything.]
    Even if you carefully back up your LR catalogue, you are stuffed if what is backed up is also damaged. I have some corrupted images, also backed up to two other places, but all the back ups are also damaged too as the original files were damaged by 'disk error/bad cable connection'. I only discovered this a couple of years after the files were last accessed and needed to use them again. So even if one did back ups where you gradually replaced the data, you'd only find out too late. Ironically you are more likely to caught out by this if you back more often.

    Have you tried extracting the page (Tools > Pages > Extract) and then inserting it (Tools > Pages > Insert from File)?
    It would also be possible to do with a script that makes the page a template, spawns it as a new page, and then deletes the template. This could be made into a custom menu item or toolbar button if you need to do this sort of thing a lot.
    Here's some code that will add a duplicate page of the one that's currently being viewed just after it:
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    createTemplate("t1", pageNum).spawn({nPage: pageNum + 1, bOverlay: false});
    removeTemplate("t1");
    This code can be run from the interactive JavaScript console (Ctrl+J) by selecting all of the lines and hitting Ctrl+Enter, or Enter on the numeric keypad.

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