Exporting Crop marks

After distillilng a file iI then import it back into QuarkExpress
Though the crop marks are in the Acrobat file, when imported they no longer show up
What can I do to have them show up other then opening in Illustrator and resaving as a pdf?

I specify crops for all my AI, ID docs going to print in the PDF settings. Never create them in the native programs.
Are you then placing the crop marked PDF in Quark? Crops should be there. Not sure I understand why you need to import them back....

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EPS file placed within INDD art shows crop marks when exported to PDF

Hi Friends -
I have a INDD art file I'm working on, within which I placed an EPS image. Upon exporting the INDD art to PDF, the document has what appear to be crop marks surrounding the EPS image. This is not where the image should be cut, and these marks are being shown in a functional part of the design. Here is a screenshot of one corner of the EPS; the other 3 corners have identical marks:
Additional information:
- MS Windows 7 Enterprise SP1
- InDesign CS5.5 Version 7.5.3
- Marks are generated during export process/conversion to PDF; they are not visible in InDesign.
- EPS file does not create these crop marks when placed into another INDD file and exported using the same process as above.
- No other elements of the INDD file have similar marks displayed after export.
Any help with where I might find the setting in INDD to turn this OFF would be greatly appreciated!
D

That was probably the most expeditious reply I've ever received in a forum.
Anyhow, the crop marks are not part of the actual EPS image. Opening the EPS file in PS or AI reveals no stray crop marks so, unless the marks are somehow part of the EPS settings rather than a visible element of the image, I think it has something to do with INDD and its settings. To confirm, I did place this EPS in another INDD document and an export procedure utilizing the same steps does not reproduce the crop marks.

Crop mark on image when exporting to PDF

When I export my INDD file to PDF, crop marks appear on one of the images (an EPS file) in the converted document. The crop marks do not appear in the INDD file, nor are they part of the original EPS file. Any idea what's happening and how to get rid of it?

Screen shots would help here, but the first thing I would try is replace the EPS file with a native file format, either .al for vector or .psd for raster, or PDF for mixed content.

Cannot export file as .jpg if it has crop marks

Ok, so I'm trying to export a file to .jpg in Adobe Illustrator CS2 and it works until I put in Crop Marks. Once they are in, when it tries to save it, I get a message, "The file cannot be written due to an error". Does anyone have any ideas? I've tried multiple locations and there is plenty of room where I am trying to save it to.

Meankty,
In CS2 you should be using Crop Area, not Crop Marks.
What happens if you set the Artboard corresponding to the Crop Marks and then try exporting?

Adding crop marks in jpeg export

Hi All,
Is is possible to add crop marks in jpeg export similar to what we have in pdf export.
I see SnapshotUtils class but could not see any method to set crop marks.
What I need to do to set crop marks?
Regards,
Alam

Well, since there is no Crop Marks option when doing a JPEG Export (Snapshot) by hand, I would be very surprised if there were a plug-in API for it.
So I think you'll have to add your own Crop Marks before you do the JPEG Export. It isn't really that hard ... just a little tedious. You can get the general idea from the CropMarks.jsx script that comes with InDesign.

InDesign CS5.5 - Adobe Acrobat export (incorrect master pages and crop marks)

Hi, I've recently experienced a couple of anomalies when exporting books from InDesign to PDF.
The first issue was that, on seemingly random pages of the book, the exporter suddenly seemed to interpret the crop marks incorrectly. The book pages would go something like: left, right, left, right, right, left, right.
The second issue was that the pdf didn't display the correct master page on one page of the book. The InDesign file has sections with slight grey backgrounds to separate particular sections of the book. One of the pages in one of those grey sections just appears as white (the text remained unharmed) in the pdf though the InDesign file is as it should be.
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First issue: No pages are missing, the crop marks indicating whether right or left go out of l,r,l,r order.
Second issue: There is a background fill on the master page. I just checked and the attribute is fine. What's strange is that the first time I made this pdf and sent the book to print, this didn't happen. Now that I've reexported for a second print of the book it happened (the master pages haven't been touched between prints and the same print settings have been used). Is it possible that the exporter can just mess up?

CS5 Crop marks don't work in Save For Web

I'm playing in the trial version of Illustrator 5.
I'm having trouble figuring out the crop marks. I select an object and try the various versions of creating crop marks. But when I Save For Web, it does not use the crop marks as a guide to trim the artwork down. The crop marks are visible.
In CS3, which I've used for years, I would create an object and use the crop mark tool to create the marks at the size of my object. When I would Save For Web it would save the file to the exact size of my crop marks, no matter if I had artwork in clipping masks that go outside the crops.
Why does this not work in CS5?

You do speak the truth so in CS 4 and now Cs 5 you instead of drawing a rectangle and the making it into crop marks you simply draw an artboard then when you export you select to use artboards in the export dialog and select the artboard you just made and voilá.
Now before you go crazy this is an advance you can also choose to export all the artboards a range of artboards or a non-contiguous selection of artboards this way.
the difference here is that you draw the artborad which is actually drawing a rectangle and making the crop marks as in the CS 3 all in one opertation
it is really the same feature with lots of features added to it. Including the ability to name the art boards (cropped areas) number them reorder them
manage them in the artboard panel and then the team went farther than that with pasting in place pasting an element on all the artboards at once.
It is really just the crop area feature but with lots of possibilities.
If you need t draw an artboard within another artboard hold down the shift key.

How do I change the alignment of crop marks?

When exporting a document as a PDF the crop marks are automatically aligned with the edge of the document, but I need to move them a couple of millimetres in to account for the bleed.
I can't find any options where I can change this. The only option I can see is 'offset' but that just varies the actual distance of the crop marks from the document.
I'm sure it's something really obvious but I'm going nuts here. Any help would be great. Thanks.

Why not make the document the cut size and set the bleed in the document? That's out of box and standard.
Alternately you can use the Crop Marks script found in the Scripts panel and make boxes in your document's cut size, crop marks based on their bounds.

Crop mark issue when placing and PDF in Indesign

I've just had this strange issue that I can't figure out and I'm not sure if anyone else has had it as well.
I exported a PDF through InDesign with crop marks. I then placed the PDF in Indesign and for some reason the bleed and the crop marks don't
show up! I've never had this issue with Indesign before.
Is it even InDesign, or is it the PDF itself?

Select show options when placing and select the appropriate crop to choice.
Bob

Adding crop marks and registration Urrrrrrrr.... CS3 Mac

Hi,
I think I have been working longer on trying to add crop marks and bleed to a business card then actually designing the artwork. Adobe really pisses me off with these PDF, Illustrator nonsense. Why is it SO complicated to add crop mark and registration marks to send to a printer?
When I add a "Crop Area" in AI why it's not included when I export to PDF press quality? why do I need to start going through the crazy Acrobat Advanced menu? add printer marks... resize the page using the Crop Pages option... and then loosing my bleed background.
Is there a simple way to do this?
Thanks
Mic

Hi guys, you're really going about the whole thing wrong...as a prepress person I need to impose your designs to get best efficiency on the press. I will proably delete all your marks anyway and add my own.....however, my imposition programs use the HIDDEN crop, trim and bleed boxes in your artwork. If you make a huge page in illustrator and plonk your art somewhere arbitrarily in the centre I have to mess arounf for a few minutes to try to work out where your boxes lie. I am pretty careful, but I cannot guarantee other operators out there so you will probably start at the press with an error tolerance before you even start printing.
The correct way to use the adobe programs is to define the FINISHED size (for business cards we generalise at 90x55mm). Then in the setup section you define your bleeds and slugs. Design your cards on that artboard (and add as many artboards as you want). Then when you are finished EXPORT to PDF (and make yourself a saved preference for this to make it a 1 step process) using the marks options in the side panel. Your new PDF file is perfect finished art for your printer and we can impose to our hearts' delight knowing the correct boxes are in the meta data and our programs will be 100% accurate.
Now some of our clients need to show multiple cards up on a sheet to their clients so do not like this...but there is a trick. All you need to do is pull out an artboard around all your smaller cards. Take note of what artboard number this one is. Then all you do is export to pdf and only put that number into the Pages to be exported dialog (and put the other pages into the finished art file being sent to your printer). The one going to your client can have manual trim artwork added but clients don't need rego or colour marks so don't worry.
Everyone happy and really easy to do as this is how the program was built to be used
Good luck

Crop Marks – is this how they work?

I haven't had to use crop marks before – my books have been printed on sheets the same size as the InDesign page. Now however, I am about to print a small book, 4-Up, on sheets larger than the page size, so I will need to add crop marks. I want to run my understanding of how to place crop marks on the page and how they will be used by the guillotine man, past some of the experts on this forum.
And before anyone says: "Crop marks are the printer's job. Just let him do it", or somesuch comment – in this case it's not the printer's job, it's mine. I've chosen to do everything: the writing, the layout, purchase of the paper (910 x 650 sheets), the cutting of the paper, the imposition, the printing, arranging the cutting of the sheets, and then the binding. So, I need to know about crop marks. This is what I have discovered, or guessed (please correct me if I'm wrong):
Assume a page size in InDesign of 100 x 200 mm. When you export to PDF and tick Crop Marks and set Offset to a certain dimension, two things happen:
The page size is increased to (100 + 2 (Offset + 5.3)) in width, and (200 + 2 (Offset + 5.3)) in height. In the case of an offset of 5 mm, the page dimensions of the PDF become 120.6 x 220.6 mm.
Crop marks of 5.3mm in length (5/12"), are placed at the four corners of the new page pointing inwards to the original page size. Thus, in this case, there is a gap of 5mm, the chosen offset, between the end of the crop marks and the original page. This offset allows for movement of the sheets during printing, so that when the crops are made the crop marks won't appear on any of the pages. i.e. the offset is greater than the expected sheet movement.
The guillotine man, when he comes to cut the sheets, lines up the narrow beam of light from the guillotine with one of the crop marks – and cuts that edge. Now there are only two crop marks left because two have been cut off in this first cut.
The guillotine man then rotates the sheets 90º and cuts again. Now there is only one crop mark left.
The sheets are again rotated, the beam of light lined up with the remaining crop mark, and the third cut is made. There are no more crop marks left.
For the final cut, the sheets are rotated 90º, but as there are no crop marks left, the appropriate dimension has to be entered into the guillotine (or marked out on the top sheet), and the cut is made.
I have yet to confirm with my guillotine man that steps 3-6 describe how he will do it. That's simply how I imagine it would happen. And in the case of 4-Up, a couple of extra cuts will be needed in the centre, depending on how the imposed pages are positioned.
Is the above an accurate description of how crop marks are inserted and how they are used?

Thanks for the responses.
Stix: Personally if adding Crop marks in InDesign (I prefer to use an imposition program) I like to make them even numbers, e.g. 3mm offset and 7mm long crop marks, whoch give a PDF size that is bigger by 10mm on each side.
Yes, it would make it easier if numbers were whole integers. But how do you tell InDesign to make a certain-length crop mark? I assumed it was fixed at 30 point (5/24" = 5.292 mm).
cdflash: I'm sure there are good answers to all of these questions but they are not in the opening post.
I tried to keep my question as simple as possible, hence I didn't elaborate. But to answer some of your queries…
Or is the OP going to impose each sheet with 24 pages to view?… I am imposing using only InDesign using a method I developed. It's a very flexible method and works beautifully for 2-Up and 4-Up. Some of the imposition software I trialled several years ago was highly sus and not capable, for example, of generating variable-length signatures. I suppose the up-market programs would be okay, but I can't justify spending thousands on a program I might only use a few times.
Out of interest: can the software you suggested, Creo Preps, impose with these signature lengths: 6,6,4,4,4,8 (numbers of sheets per signature; total 128 pages)?
How many pages are in the book? How many copies of the book are required?… Size of Coracina is 148.5mm x 191 mm, 128 pages, 50 copies. The figures I gave for page size were examples only.
… and impose so that the pages get cut out as single pages and then hand-collated?… Printed sheets are 4-Up on SRA3. I chose SRA3 late in the piece when the printer told me that the click-charge was the same no matter what the paper size. Prior to that I was intending to print on A4. Printing costs are now halved.
Why is the OP handling this and not the printer?… I like a challenge, I like to be in control of the process, I like to learn, and I like to save money.
Tanksinker
Check out the images at the bottom of https://sites.google.com/site/tanksinker/Home/max-burns-tanksinker if you'd like to see how I make a book. Doing it all myself results in huge savings. Tanksinker cost me about $10,000 all up, only half of which I got back in sales. It's a hobby. I don't expect or want to profit from it. To print 50 copies of Tanksinker commercially, judging by what a local offset printer told me, would have cost $50k-100k for the plates alone (2 proofs, 400x4 plates each proof, $20-30/plate).
Coracina
I have been to see the guillotine man after reading all the posts above, and he confirmed that the crop marks I was using would be suitable (I just drew them on a piece of paper; I didn't show him the real thing). He did make a useful suggestion: he would trim the SRA3 sheet along the top and bottom of each book-spread (4 horizontal trims), but not trim to the left and right crop marks (vertical trims) because that would be done anyway when trimming the fore-edge after the book was sewn and glued.
A sample page of Coracina, with crop marks ready for printing, can be downloaded here: http://www.mediafire.com/?5eidx1c61o7jrjx
Printing of the first three copies is tomorrow morning, Tasmania time. If the crop marks on the sample, or any other aspect of the layout looks in any way sus or likely to cause problems, please let me know.
Oh, and I should add that Coracina is my partner's book. Way too girly for me. I'm just the technical consultant, shall I say.

Crop Marks/Preparing to Print - PDF

Hello,
I have created a 250 page book in indesign. When I select "Package for Print", printers marks are not set. If I try just printing the book, I see where I can opt to print with printers marks, but they don't save on the file. When I go back to Package for print, they're not showing.
How can I create a PDF of the entire book that I can upload to a printing website (going to use Mimeo.com) WITH crop marks shown on that file? Mimeo only accepts PDF files.
I have CS5 on a Mac. Please be specific as to what instructions you give, as I'm new to this. Thanks!
Please help!! THanks!

Hi Bob,
Yes, its a book... well actually a planner...
I have CS5 (on a Mac). Can you give me specific instructions as to
where I'd find that? Any of the ways that I go to export a PDF, I
don't see those options available. Thanks!
Danielle Marie Crume
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http://youknowitbyheart.com
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butterfly.” - Richard Bach

Crop marks inaccurate in "placed" PDF file, ok in original ID file??

Hi all,
I've created a file using InDesign (CS5) and exported it to PDF format, with crop marks (for proofing purposes). I then "place" the PDF file(s) back into an InDesign document and align them as a master for printing/cutting. However, the crop marks are ever so slightly off (maybe 1/32 of an inch or less?). As the cutter cuts every 2 inches, this "off-ness" gets larger with each 2" piece cut down the page so the last object ends up being maybe 1/16 of an inch off. The original InDesign file prints exactly on-mark.
Why is this and is there a way to fix it??
Thanks!

Getting crop marks isn't the issue, as I can do that using a variety of methods, including what you describe. In our case, the PDF is less work because we create individual PDFs of each object (business cards, in this case) to send out for proof and we'd rather use the handy built-in method of placing a PDF to a master of several cards instead of pasting or recreating each original on the master.
I guess I'm just wondering why a robust program designed for production printing such as this has an option for including crop marks in a PDF if the PDF isn't going to be accurate when placed back into a design file? I was hoping I made an error in my set-up somehow, which is still possible I suppose.

Crop Marks on the image

Hi All
I am producing some exhibition panels and our printer would like the crop marks actually on the image. When I export to PDF the crop marks appear in a white area around the image - is there any way I can remove that white area and show the crop marks on the image?
Thanks

Daniel lists two choices. A third choice is to use InDesign's custom cropmarks feature, which came up twice today! Wow!
See http://forums.adobe.com/message/3637984#3637984, etc. for some more details. It is a bit tricky to set up, but works well once it is done.
I'd like to second Daniel's second post:
We're approaching a point where a screen shot of your pdf's might be worth a thousand words.
Please post a mock-up of what you want, it would be very much more helpful!
Macinbytes wrote:
If you have illustrator you can remove the marks. InDesign's marks will
be .25 pt Registration 100% stroke and have a 1.25 pt Registration 0%
stroke behind them.
If I may, I would like to strongly disagree with this suggestion. Illustrator is not a tool for generic editing of PDF files. It has been known to cause problems when editing mildly complicated InDesign documents, and the set of PDF files it can edit and operations it can perform is not a superset of InDesign's. It is partially overlapping.
Also, any hand-editing of marks is going to be a pain. Why include the marks if you are just going to remove them? Mark them in InDesign as Peter suggests.

Saving as PDF with crop marks.

I'm trying to create a Printready PDF from my Structured FM file. I recently upgraded to FM9.
With earlier versions of FM we've had issues with colours not exporting correctly from FM, and I've had to print .ps files, run a colour correction script and then open the files as .pdf. Due to a limitation of my colour correction script I could only print 5-10pgs at a time. Which made the process very time consuming.
I pitched the upgrade to FM9 to my boss because when I initially tested the trial version and used the 'save as PDF' function, the colours came up correct without having to use the colour correction script.
HOWEVER, now that I'm trying to create printready PDF's of my document, via the save as PDF function, I'm not getting crop marks/registration marks on my files.
On the PDF Setup Dialog box I have 'Western' choosen under Registration Marks. (Screen Shot attached)
Initally I thought it could be because I had the page size set to the exact page size I wanted, but I've tried making the page size bigger and they still don't seem to appear.
Hopefully this is an easy question and I've just missed something simple!

Caveat CMYK!
Unfortunately, it's still not completely reliable. There are issues with quite a number of OTF Pro fonts not rendering correctly, and with spot colour tints and table fills that use spot colours.
The upgrade to from COlourChameleon to PubliPDF may be still worth considering...
Also, with your crop mark issue, how big is the page size compared to the output size that you specifed in the PDF Setup? You have to add at least 1cm to the page size to give it room to place the crop marks.

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