Extending Wi-Fi with 2nd base station

I just upgraded to an Airport Extreme base station. I also use 2 AE's to print wirelessly and also a 3rd to play my stereo remotely. The printers work fine, but the stereo apparently is borderline for distance and skips a lot. I still have my original Base Station & was attempting to use it to extend the wireless field so the AE on the stereo would work better, but even tho I reset the old base station to "factory settings" it is not being recognized by the AE setup software as a new base station. Maybe this isn't something that can be done, but if not I'll be returning the AE unit attached to the stereo. Any ideas. Thanks in advance.

I still have my original Base
Station & was attempting to use it to extend the
wireless field so the AE on the stereo would work
better,
If this is an original snow or graphite base station then this is not possible to use this to extend a network using WDS.
Use one of the other Airport Express units to extend the Airport Extreme network and ensure it is placed at most two-thirds of the way to the stereo AX.
iFelix

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The 7.6.3 firmware update reports this new feature:
"The ability to extend the Guest Wi-Fi network on a network that is configured with multiple AirPort Base Stations"
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1617
I assumed that this meant that an Airport Express was able to "Extent" the guest wifi network. However, I am not able to get this to work. Having entered all the details I just get the orange light and the message that it was unable to extend the network - check the details. I have checked them multiple times and still not working. If I switch to extending the "main" network then it works first time, but does not extend the guest as far as I can see.
If I set up from scratch it picks up the guest network and tries to extend but then switches to the main wifi later in the process after claiming to extend the base station itself, not one of the wifi networks.
What does this update mean?! Has anyone managed to "extend the Guest Wi-Fi network" in any way?
All devices have been updated to 7.6.3 and all airport utilities have been updated to the latest version (6.2).
I am running an extreme as the main router then I have a number of expresses to extend round a large building, but it is the guest that needs extending!!
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I am running an extreme as the main router then I have a number of expresses to extend round a large building
You need to have the "new" AirPort Express to be able to extend the Guest Network. The "new" Express looks like a miniature AirPort Extreme.
Check the Model No on the side of the AirPort Express devices that you have. If you see A1264 this is an older version of the Express that does not have Guest Network capabiltiy.
Using an AirPort Extreme and new AirPort Express here., the Guest Network "extends" just fine when I try this using wireless only. I also have another AirPort connected back to the main AirPort Extreme using a wired Ethernet connection. The Guest Network is extended on this device as well.

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apikoros wrote:
The Utility transferred all of the AE's settings, so I still have to change the password, which leaves me with only 2 other questions, I think:
1) I assume it's just a matter of using the Utility, entering a stronger password and checking for it to be remembered in Keychain Access. But do I have to change the password for each individual unit-- the TC, the Extreme and both Expresses-- or will changing it just for the TC alone work for the entire network?
Resetting the password you will need to do for each device... the utility cannot even see those old units.
So you will have to do it for each one.. think it through.. because as you change passwords the others will lose connection.. so start from the express which are wireless extending .. change those first.. and go back up the chain.. as each one changes it will drop off the network.. until you reach extreme and change that. Then you might need to reboot the whole network to get everything talking again. If something goes wrong.. just pluck that one out of the mix and plug in ethernet.. reset and redo the setup. That is my preferred method anyway.. do everything in isolation one by one. By ethernet and then nothing goes wrong.
2) Who's the treasonous SOB who spilled the beans to you about the ICBM in my back yard?!?
N.Korean hackers.
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You cannot partition a network disk. And apple provided no tools for it in the TC itself. You can pull the disk out and partition it but that voids your warranty. (although done with care who is to know).
Look at Q3 here.
http://pondini.org/TM/Time_Capsule.html
Mixing TM and data on the TC is worth planning carefully. They don't necessarily sit happily together.

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I have a brand new Airport Express. I'm trying to connect to my iMac G5. Everything works fine in the start up with getting the green light on the Express base station. But, my iMac doesn't "connect" with the base station.
I try the "Airport Setup Assistant" and get a window that says "No new Airport networks were found."
I look at the "pie" at the top of the iMac screen. It has the white and black stripes on it. I click it and find "Apple Network e3fec9" and select it. The signal level shown has all blue buttons. That window also reports "Status: Connected to 'Apple Network e3fec9'" and "Base Station ID:00:19:E3:E3:FE:C9". That's what makes me think that my problem must be in the iMac and not the base station.
I had also tried my Dell laptop (from work) and found that it found the internet network. It detected the "local host" and "Apple Network" and the signal strength was very good (~90% or so). The only problem was that the laptop thought it needed to recreate an IP address before it could connect to the internet. I didn't do that, since I saw it was detecting the network.
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iMac Mac OS X (10.4.9) none

I'm confused. You say you're connected to "Apple Network e3fec9", and you're having trouble connecting your iMac? It sounds like you've managed to connect to your Airport Base Station.
Have you configured the Internet settings for the base station? Try this:
1. Launch Airport Admin Utility (in /Applications/Utilities/) select "Apple Network e3fec9" and click Configure.
2. Under the Airport tab, give the base station a name, click the Base Station Options… button, and make sure Enable Ethernet Port is checked.
3. Select Create a Wireless Network (Home Router) if it isn't already selected, give your network a name, and check Create a closed network
4.Click the Wireless Security button and set it to WPA Personal, and enter a password.
5. Under the Internet tab, set Connect Using: to Ethernet, and in the Configure dropdown, select Using DHCP
6. Click the Access Control tab and click the plus button on the right side of the window. In the panel that pops up, click the This Computer button.
7. Click Update
I'm hoping it's something simple, like Enable Ethernet Port wasn't checked or something, and not something more serious.
Hope it helps.
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Hello,
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Yes, if you perform a reset on the AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS), it will default to 10.0.1.1.
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Try connecting directly, using an Ethernet cable, to the AEBS you want to setup.
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- Each AEBS would have a unique Base Station Name.
- All AEBSs would have the same Network Name and Password.
- Each of the AEBSs would be set up as bridges

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To order earlier you can order without the Airport installation and have an Authorised Apple Service Centre do the installation for you at a later date. It is not a user-installable part so it's doubtful you'll be even be able to order it as a standalone part.
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