Feature: packagelists for pacman

the problem:
how to save the installation-configuration ( == list of packages that are installed and need to be installed on the new machine) of an Arch-System to a file and then use it on an other machine to install exactly the same packages on the new
my workaround:
pacman -Q > packagelist
and then remove from packagelist the n and then use it as string on the new machine after base-installation
pacman -S <this string>
the elegant way may be:
what about
pacman -L list.pkgs
// -L means that a list is the argument instead of a packagename or filename
-> this line would create a list of all packages from system
then it would be possible to use this list.pkgs for different things, like:
pacman -SL list.pkgs
would --sync all packages in list.pkgs
pacman -QL list.pkgs
would --query all packages in list.pkgs
pacman -RL list.pkgs
would --remove all packages in list.pkgs
and it would be easier to group packages in "graphics.pkgs" ... and then installing them additionally easily and also removing them easily (as groups, like the kde* discussion)
what do you think about such a feature for pacman?

I also like this idea. It makes building duplicate machines easy, less error prone and less time consuming.
Also like dp mentioned it is one way to resolve the software group issue. There could be several different packages for groups like "full-Gnome.pkgs", "standard-Gnome.pkgs" and "minimal-Gnome.pkgs".

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We often find people asking questions which is the best x software, which is the most popular y soft, and stuff like that. Voting can be a good solution for this at least people will know which is the most popular one. Aurbuild has this feature where u can vote from console. If this feature can be included in pacman and made default, then we can get a good idea about how many people are using a certain software. Whenever someone installs a package, a vote is casted in favor of it and whenever it is uninstaled that vote is reversed. This will give a good idea how many people are using the particular package at a particular time.
Last edited by ravisghosh (2007-06-21 05:36:25)

Do you know how to handle it? There are lots of repositories - but pacman can report back to one central station. And what about the people who do not want to be monitored in their behaviours?
I think that Linux is all about freedom of choice and I am not willing to support an approach to suppress this privilege we have in comparison to Microsoft Windows users.
I feel like being monitored with WGA when using pacman under these circumstances - apart from the fact that I know what will happen to my data. I trust the Arch people, at least. But it would arouse a major privacy problem which is unnecessary.
Providing the option mentioned above optionally would be a great idea, though.
Last edited by chaosgeisterchen (2007-06-18 12:28:07)

New ideas for pacman features

I'd like to start a discussion about pacman and some features I would like to see in it.
If I compile something with srcpac instead of installing with pacman, it would be nice if pacman remembered that I did so and recompiled the package next time I get an update of it. For instance: I compile my own (beyond) kernel, so I have to compile the kernel modules I use too. It would be nice if it could happen automatically: the kernel modules already get updated with the new kernel, so it would be just a matter of remembering that I like to compile these packages.
srcpac already supports the automatic alteration of a PKGBUILD, but it would be nice to have a more systematic approach like the make.conf file on a BSD system. This would make it easier to compile some packages with other than the default options of the PKGBUILD. The current grep method is too heavily depending on the format of the PKGBUILD and fails when the maintainer changes the PKGBUILD.
What are your ideas/opinions?

Dusty wrote:This sounds more like a srcpac feature than a pacman feature. Srcpac isn't an official part of Arch Linux, so integrating anything into pacman isn't likely to happen.
Why should these programs be separated? I think it would be wonderful to have one package manager where you can choose what to compile and what to take from binary packages. While I like binary packages, now and again there are packages I have to compile and it would be nice if it could be done automatically. makepkg and srcpac are fine for installing these packages, but not when updating the system. An easier and more robust approach to changing PKGBUILDS automatically by using variables that can be defined in a BSD-like make.conf file would be great.

A nice feature for pacman

I dont think im the only one that does a weekly "pacman -Syu", many do it more often i guess, but i cant allow that, so i do it once a week, now i dont have that many pkgs as i've been really busy and just reinstalled Arch a week or so ago, but i do had this thought before i reinstalled:
When i had my prior system, i had lots of packages, and sometimes i didnt want to update them all at the same night (yeah you guessed, dialup), so i had to "manually" see what where the ones i wanted more.
Now, here is the issue, "pacman -Syu" is a list of all the pkgs available for update with no particular order except for the abecedary, so some pkgs starting with "k" would be mixed with the KDE ones and the same for the "G" and Gnome, and all this made a lot more complicated to choose what packages to upgrade. So i was thinking, cant the output of "pacman -Syu" be categorized? as with the categories the Arch installer use?
I think an ordered list of the packages available would be a much nicer thing to see and very usufull too.
Hope you take it in consideration.
Regrets.

apeiro wrote:It would be problematic to start doing partial sysupgrades. You might miss a key dependency and break packages.
Hi,
I wasnt thinking in doing partial sysupgrades, i think you didnt understood what i wanted to say (im sorry but when i read something written by me in english a couple of hours ago, i find several errors on my ways of expression, not to name grammatical and ortographical).
What i meant, was that if there is a way of ordering the "display" of the output of pacman -Syu in categories, so one can see in more detail for a pkg that might want to update if there is actually any update to do.
Instead of:
abiword-1.2-pkg.tar.gz gcc-3.4-pkg.tar.gz libbonoboui-2.3-pkg.tar.gz xfree86-4.4-pkg.tar.gz xmms-2-10.pkg.tar.gz ... [...]
It would be something like this:
Base:
gcc-3.4-pkg.tar.gz ... [...]
Office:
abiword-1.2-pkg.tar.gz ... [...]
Multimedia:
xmms-2.10.pkg.tar.gz ... [...]
X:
xfree86-4.4-pkg.tar.gz ... [...]
The numbers in the versions are random except on the ones i remembered current ones.
About missing key dependencies, i do pacman -Syu to see what are the pkgs updated, then choose NO at the do system upgrade question and then i do a pacman -S [app1] [app2] [app3].... and pacman deals with the dependencies, so i dont think we would have any problem with them... is this what you meant??
kakabaratruskia wrote:maybe, there could be an option for pacman, that when you do -Syu, you where asked if you want to install each package. (like download foo? (Y/N), download dasda?(Y/N), etc.)
I think this is a great idea, it would help a lot (i wouldnt have to do the last step in the previous paragraph )
Something like pacman -Syu --ask
Anyway, this are just thoughts!
Regards

A suggestion for pacman

Right now if you want to use "makepkg" effectively, you have to install and setup "sudo" just to be able to get the dependencies for a build (makepkg -s).
My suggestion is for pacman to have a new parameter, like "pacman -P" for example, that would read a PKGBUILD file from the current directory and automatically parse the mentioned dependencies for installation. That way sudo wouldn't be required to easily use AUR/ABS.
I think implementing this would make some systems more secure (no need to give users pacman permission) and also makes things more simple imo.
I already use a bad self-made script for directly reading and installing PKGBUILD deps, but it would be cool to have it as native feature of pacman.
What do you think.

Welcome to the forums app4des.
Ideas for improving the distro are always very well taken around here. Things do have a tendency to get lost in the forums, so what rson451 said is the best way to get ideas and suggestions across. There's a dedicated pacman section in the bug tracker. Look right under the user name box and you'll see a drop down lists.

.bashrc not working for pacman

Hi I was trying to get coloured output for pacman as per the wiki (Wiki Pacman Colour)I chose just to add the alias to my .bashrc method. I know that other functions of my .bashrc are working. This is my .bashrc
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-e 's#extra/.*#\\033[0;32m&\\033[0;37m#g' \
-e 's#community/.*#\\033[1;35m&\\033[0;37m#g' \
-e 's#^.*/.* [0-9].*#\\033[0;36m&\\033[0;37m#g' )"
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alias cp='cp -iv'
alias mv='mv -i'
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alias df="df -h"
alias du="du -hc"
alias mv="mv -iv"
alias cp="cp -v"
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-rw-r--r-- 1 flebber users 400 2007-06-22 16:04 #.bashrc#
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drwxrwxr-x 5 flebber root 4.0K 2007-06-21 02:35 ..
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drwx------ 2 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-21 03:13 .Trash
-rw------- 1 flebber users 0 2007-06-21 03:15 .Xauthority
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-rw-rw-r-- 1 flebber users 510 2007-06-23 14:47 .bash_profile
-rw-rw-r-- 1 flebber users 607 2007-06-23 15:05 .bashrc
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drwxrwxr-x 5 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-23 15:07 .gconf
drwxrwxr-x 2 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-23 15:07 .gconfd
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drwxrwxr-x 9 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-23 15:06 .gnome2
drwx------ 2 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-21 00:37 .gnome2_private
drwxrwxr-x 2 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-21 08:39 .gstreamer-0.10
-rw-rw-r-- 1 flebber users 89 2007-06-21 00:37 .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2
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drwxr-xr-x 4 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-21 09:02 .listen
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drwxrwxr-x 3 flebber users 4.0K 2007-06-21 00:37 .metacity
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Last edited by flebber (2007-06-23 05:24:51)

yeah logged out and in
Updated
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
PS1='[\u@\h \W]\$ '
# Get the aliases and functions
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
. ~/.bashrc
fi
# coloured pacman output
alias pacs="pacsearch"
pacsearch () {
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-e 's#current/.*#\\033[1;31m&\\033[0;37m#g' \
-e 's#extra/.*#\\033[0;32m&\\033[0;37m#g' \
-e 's#community/.*#\\033[1;35m&\\033[0;37m#g' \
-e 's#^.*/.* [0-9].*#\\033[0;36m&\\033[0;37m#g' )"
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alias rm='rm -i'
alias cp='cp -iv'
alias mv='mv -i'
alias ..="cd .."
alias cl="clear"
alias ll="ls -lhav"
alias ls="ls -v --color=auto"
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alias du="du -hc"
alias mv="mv -iv"
alias cp="cp -v"
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PATH=$PATH:/home/flebber/*
Last edited by flebber (2007-06-23 06:53:43)

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