File Sender without Sender agreement- Possible?

Hello
It may seems bit unusual but i am having requirement in which the file sender adapter is expected to trigger the OS level command in which it gets the file from SSH server in the XI polling directory and then XI File adapter would pick up that file.
Now it has been observed that, XI File adapter doesn't execute OS level command in its poll cycle unless it creates message which means XI would expect some file (atleast a dummy file) in its polling directory.
Since this is not possible, we thought of creating the second adapter which will poll the dummy file of say 0 KB and call the OS level command which will get the files from SSH server and then the second adapter would poll the actual file.
Since second adapter would serve just as the trigger channel, its not expected to have any sender interface associated with it and hence it should poll the file without any sender agreement. can this be possible?
thanks in advance.
regards
rajeev

Hi,
Actually i tried that earlier but it didn't help.
It does executes command before or after but that only when it creates a message and it doesn't create message unless we have suitable sender agreement.
Actually i tried with dummy message interface (without actual message interface in IR) and that works but it fails in MONI and generates the error message as no suitable receiver found which i wanted to avoid.
Thanks and Regards
Rajeev Patkie

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