Final Cut Pro versus Adobe Premier Elements9

I am familiar with Pinnacle Studio 14 as I used it on my PC. Now I have a MAC OS X and am unsure whether to use Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premier Elements 9 or iMovie 11 ??
Thanks

No, get them from here:-
http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/trial/
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiereel/tryout.html

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Your experince with final cut pro vs adobe premiere?

I am just wondering about your experience with final cut pro and adobe premiere and which you like better and why. Thank you.

dorian86 wrote:
I am just wondering about your experience with final cut pro and adobe premiere and which you like better and why.
I've posted this in other threads here: I've tried the Final Cut Pro X 30 day trial on my old Mac Pro 5,1 (heavily modified) and my new Mac Pro 6,1 (8-core, D700s). I have a specific benchmark that I run on an NLE when I'm testing it: how long does it take to export one of my movies to a 720p h.264 MP4?
If we assume the length of the movie is represented by 't' (for time) -
The old Mac Pro and Final Cut Pro X 10.0: 2t
The new Mac Pro and new Final Cut Pro X 10.1: 1/2t + epsilon
The old Mac Pro and Premiere Pro CC: 1/2t + epsilon
The new Mac Pro and Premiere Pro CC: 1/2t - epsilon
The newer version of Final Cut Pro X is substantially faster at exporting my movie than the older version. But Premiere is still faster than it is. Also, Apple still can't get the whole "edit the source footage raw" bit right; my source footage is all spanned-clip AVCHD, with files that are over 4G a piece. FCPX can't just open those raw, it insists on putting a MOV wrapper around the footage. There's no transcoding happening, but the file I/O for those massive files slows the whole process down significantly.
Because I don't have years of experience editing with NLEs, I'm not married to any particular UI. FCPX's UI is ... strange, but I didn't find it too difficult to become used to it. If it were faster and more efficient for what I do, I'd reconsider it. But for now, it's all Premiere.

Switching from Final Cut Pro to Adobe Premiere

Hi everyone,
Hopefully there are others here who have made this switch and can offer me thoughts and advice. I have for the past few years used the Final Cut Pro suite as my video authoring media. It's done a great job editing and compressing my videos, so I could burn them to DVD, but the time has come for me to start burning to blu-ray. The problem is, DVD Studio Pro does not support blu-ray (something I discovered after buying the burner, etc).
After some research, it seems that Adobe Encore is the only software I've found that people recommend for blu-ray authoring on the iMac. Is this true? If I buy Adobe Premiere, will it edit, compress, does it have a color program - basically, will it do everything I've been using Final Cut for, or will I need to move files between the two programs (if they even support this?)
Anyone with experience in using both programs or just making the switch, please comment with any advice. I'd appreciate it before I take the plunge on another expensive suite of software.

You can download a trial version. I tried it some time ago and I can only use one word "boring" sorry I can not explain this feeling in a more concrete way.

Final Cut Express Vs. Final Cut Pro Vs. Adobe Premiere

Hey all,
I just bought my first Apple computer and I'm loving it. I have worked with Final Cut Pro in the past and I really enjoy working with it. However, $1000 is a bit steep. I would like to ask what your opinions are on maybe getting Final Cut Express or Adobe Premiere Pro.
I have the trial of Adobe Premiere right now, but whenever I place a clip into the timeline, it needs to be rendered. This was never an issue with Final Cut on the computers at my school. I was wondering if you knew if Final Cut Express would have better rendering times and wouldnt need as much rendering. Also, it may be the graphics card in my computer. If you think this is the problem, can you provide me with a solid video/graphics card that I should look into?
Thanks all,
Kevin

I own all three programs actually - here's my advice.
Stay the heck away from Adobe Premiere. It is no where nearly as Mac friendly and for the price, just isn't worth it. I purchased it for the Blu-ray authoring capabilities of Encore, so that's all I use it for. The plus to Premiere is that it can edit some native formats that Final Cut Pro cannot. For example, native AVCHD as well as MPEG-2 in program streams. That being said, Encore is the best option for Blu-ray authoring at a reasonable cost that gives you the ability to modify menus, etc.
Final Cut Express is a great application - my only reason for having final cut pro was my need to edit footage at 23.98, 29.97, and 59.94 fps. FCE only handles 29.97 (and 25 fps). Final Cut Pro also gives you the ability to edit more footage natively. FCE only supports DV, HDV, and AVCHD, with the latter two being transcoded into Apple Intermediate Codec for editing. FCP supports a myriad of formats and allows native editing in HDV - although it still transcodes AVCHD. FCP also gives you access to the ProRes set of codecs which are significant improvements on Apple Intermediate Codec that offer high quality in transcoding and editing.
So the real question is, what are you going to be doing?

Final Cut Pro or Adobe Premiere?

Can comment which is better? Tks!

While Premiere Pro and Final Cut Pro might be similar in their feature sets, one thing that sets them apart is native codecs. While I've never personally used a Premiere PC, my workplace is a split-platform house, utilizing both PPro and FCP.
So another question to ask yourself prior to purchasing either platform is, "what format do I plan on editing?". For example, my production facility is incorporating XDCAM HD as our primary field acquisition format. Thanks to Sony's free PDZK-P1 Transfer App written specifically for FCP, XDCAM HD can be edited natively. On the other hand, Adobe currently offers no native support for XDCAM HD, and has no plans to offer native support in the near future. They are relying strictly on 3rd party solutions, which can get really costly. Matrox Axio is a $4000 hardware-based solution for PPro. Quite a steep price to pay for "native editing".
Just make sure you do your homework prior to any purchase.

Final cut express versus Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5

Hi
Resently I bought a Mac Pro and Final cut express.
In the past I used Premiere Pro 1.5. When my project was finisched i wrote it back to tape as a Microsoft DV avi file. Is it possible to create a Microsoft DV avi file in Final Cut Express ?
I'll aske this because this tape is transported to the studio and imported into Adobe Premiere 6.0.
thanks in advance
Tonnie
Mac Pro Mac OS X (10.4.9)
Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Once it's on tape it's back in DV format and is no longer an AVI or .mov or any other computer format. If the material is put back on tape it can be captured from the camera or deck into Premiere in whatever format that uses.

Creating Blu-Ray DVD with Final Cut Pro and Adobe Encore

Hi all,
I am one of many with troubles creating a blu-ray DVD using Mac software. Sounds like the best way to do this is to do all of the editing in Final cut and create the DVD in Adobe Encore. Is there a way to export to Adobe Encore or should I just create a .mov file and import that to Encore. That way I think I lose the HD quality. I read that I could compress to Blu-ray format in Compressor, but I can only find HD DVD which is different. When I select create a Blu-Ray disc, Compressor won't simply create the file on my computer...it wants the disc to create.
Maybe I am a little to new at this to fully understand, but why in the heck doesn't Apple get with the times and create a DVD authoring program that makes Blu-Ray?
Thanks for any help you can offer.

I have just completed my first blu-ray disc using FCP7 and Adobe encore. My workflow, once the timeline was complete, was to go to File>share>choose blu-ray as destination >export. The default encoding is H.264 along with an ac3 file for audio. It took 3 hours and 35 minutes to encode the 1hr 26 minute file.
Opening encore, confirming you settings for HD, and choosing file>import>as asset each of the files (separately, of course). Encore imports them, then under Timeline>create new, then drag the files to the timeline. CLick on the build button and you are there. I did not mention that my original render was Prores422, but that should not matter here. No trouble with burning the Verbatim 25Gb disc.
Encore will recognize that these files do not need re-encoding and burn the disc. It took 1 hour and 40 minutes to burn a 1 hour and 26 minute (17+ Gb) movie on an i7 iMac with an OWC 12x BD burner.
Hope that helps

Cannot import .fcpxml from Final Cut Pro X to Premier Pro 6 ...'file format not supported'?

I've exported a project from FCPX into a .fcpxml. Upon trying to import it in Premier Pro 6, an error appears 'file format not supported'. I have searched for possible solutions, but everything I've found is related to FCP 7. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

jessikeen wrote:
Hi Kevin!
Thanks for your response.
The codec is actually MPEG-2 -- so it's not a ProRes codec.
Other information:
HDV1080i60; 29.97 fps; 48Hz, 1440x1080 resolution
Any ideas for us?
Thanks for responding so quickly ~
Jessica
Hi Jessica,
That is a stickier case.
You can purchase the Calibrated {Q} plug-in to fill that gap. It might be wise to contact them and see if you can get an educational or volume discount.
The no-cost solution is a bit more labor intensive: transcode the footage to a friendlier codec prior via the FCP Media Manager prior to the students leaving the program.

Final Cut Pro Vs. Adobe Premiere Elements 9 output quality.

Hey Group.
I am trying to edit some Sony 1920X1080 30i AVCHD footage and have had some quality problems while exporting FCP footage with QT exports (all footage logged and transferred into FCE with the proper setting that match the footage, etc as chronicled in other entries I have already discussed in other entries within this forum). My final footage was always coming out jittery and motion was never smooth and the "HD video" it produced looked amateurish and very computer generated looking. As a last ditch experiment, I decided to give a trial to Adobe Premiere Elements 9, which edits native AVCHD footage. When I exported a trial test, I was amazed to see this program exported the footage with a look that was exactly the same as the source HD footage from the camera, when played back on my WD HDTV Plus. My question is: what am I doing wrong in FCP? Is it because Premiere edits the footage natively rather than the conversion codecs FCP uses? Just seeing if anyone has any clues to this strange phenomenon. I certainly know for sure I like the workflow in FCP way better than in Adobe....Any ideas would be great. Thanks
Marshall

Okay, so here's my settings for my project...
To begin with, my output is to a WD HDTV Plus which needs a H.264 1920X1080i30 file.
The source footage is SONY AVCHD 1080i60.
My Import Prefs:
AVCHD: Apple ProRes422
AC-3 Audio: Plain Stereo
RT:
Both Dynamic Playbacks
Unlimited RT
Exported using QuickTime Conversion:
Compression: H.264
Frames:
Current
Key Frames:
Every 24
Compressor Quality: Best
Data Rate: Automatic
When it gets played back, still elements look "HD" but moving objects are jittered....HELP!
thanks
Marshall

Final Cut Pro, Flash Video Encoder & Flash Player

Well, let's get started.... I'm getting real frustrated with
Adobe. I emailed them about this problem two months ago and NEVER
got a response. This is extremely unacceptable product support. We
just purchased the Creative Suite Premium two months ago and have
never gotten Flash Video Encoder to properly encode a Quicktime
video exported from Final Cut Pro.
I have heard from a few on the Final Cut Pro forum on
Creative COW that there is a bug with this issue between Flash and
Final Cut Pro. Adobe doesn't seem to care if I report it, so that's
why I am here.
I create my program as usual, export a Quicktime file (not
reference video, but a full self-contained Quicktime). BTW, I have
Quicktime 7.2 on my Mac Pro Quad 3.0 with 8 gig of RAM. I open
Flash Video Encoder to make my flash files. Import the Quicktime
and select my settings which are custom. I set it to encode and
wait for the encoding to be done. It takes about 1 1/2 hours to
encode a 23 minute program. After the encode is finished, I check
the Flash file by opening it up. BTW, I also have installed a copy
of On2 Flix Exporter, which encodes Flash files, too. The On2 Flash
player is the only player that works. Adobe's Flash player opens
but it won't open ANY Flash files.
Has anyone seen this?

When I try to import it on FCPX it says "None of the selected files or folders can be imported. Change the selection and try again." and even on Compressor it either doesn't play and fails to convert, or else it plays only a the audio but once I've completed the process the outputted file doesn't play anything.
Here's a screenshot at my different attempts to convert it. I managed to get the record the video on VLC, but I can't record the audio so I tried getting only the audio form Compressor as well, but like I said the outputted file doesn't play any audio even though it's as long as the video (36 mins approx.).

Power mac g4 idvd and final cut pro 4

i got a duel 1ghz upgraded power mac 1gh ram but it seems slow to run final cut pro 4 adobe premere 6.5 seems to run slow and crash alot on 10.4.9 and i keep dropping frames i never seemed to have these problems on my imac dv600mhz on os 9 years ago but i do know seems os x is like xp compaired to 9 or os 9 in terms of crashes is my system able to do final cut pro edit video and make idvd movies?

I have a quad core i7 2,0 MiniServer. I bought it mainly for a file/print/web server but it does a great job running Compressor/Qmaster and FCP/DVDSP on occasion.
FW800 has a 80mb/s limit. If you need more than that, you are headed to thunderbolt. For a bunch of reasons, I'd capture with ProRes if you are working through the Matrox.
For simple capturing, it should work. The big caveat is 10.7 will not allow you to install FCS2 (no PPC installer support).
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Premiere Pro CS3 on Mac versus Final Cut Pro

Any of you working on a mac with Premiere Pro CS3? If so, why did you choose Premiere over Final Cut Pro?
I'm currently using a Matrox RTX100 on a custom made PC that has all the correct pieces of hardware to make it work. It's running PPro 1.5 and I'm looking to upgrade to a new computer and wanted to know if PPro CS3 runs better or like butter on a Mac versus a PC. I will be using a Raid 0 1TB drive from G-Raid. For Mac the other option is Final Cut Studio 2.
I've been a Premiere user since 1999-2000 and have had my share of grief with it but have grown to like it very much especially with the integration with AE.
I want to know what your thoughts are if you were in the same position.
Thanks,
Frank

I'm using PP CS3 on the Mac, having recently switched from a Windows machine. Since I already owned the Windows version of CS3 Adobe allowed me to "crossgrade" to Mac for the cost of shipping. I took a look at FCP but saw no compelling reason to make the switch in editing programs. If you do a lot of editing in HD it might be a different story as PP doesn't include an intermediate codec (FCP does), has issues with HDV video/audio sync and lacks native support for XDCAM. Hopefully these particular weaknesses in PP will be addressed soon.
PP CS3 on the Mac has worked very well for me so far. The integration with AE is excellent. One other thing to note is that PP is available as a stand only app. This is no longer true of FCP, where you are forced to buy the entire Studio 2.

Final Cut Studio Vs Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.

What are the best reasons for purchasing Final Cut Studio over Adobe Premiere Pro CS5?
Thanks!

Hi friends i'ven reading your coments and my conclusions are CS5 is faster and has the same features and quality than FCP, i like to ask to Studio X if you know more FCP and you are a pro why? with facts because if i have to buy or say to a friend or client go and use one or another with real facts.
Example FCP has better color calibration, better final quality, more features or so.
Another curious thing is that jhon 1 in 2 said is better AVCHD compatibility or handle these are to consistent points that i can undertand as a normal person.
I can understand a point if you can say me why FCP is better with examples because i know much of hardware but a little of this software, i can give a big point to a software tha can use mi machine at full capacity because if i spend 10K$ in a computer i'd like a blazing fast one, if not is better to spend only 2.5K$ and wait the same amount of time for the same results.
Sorry for my english i'm not from USA so my vocabulary is short.

Is there an easier way to work with adobe after effects and final cut pro x

I use adobe after effects and I am thinking about deleting motion and compressor ( I can always install again). If you have a good reason to keep those apps let me know because I don't want to be hasty. If I delete them and stick with after effects and final cut pro... Is there a secret to easy working between FCPX and adobe after effects?
Thanks

You'll go from FCP X to and from Motion a lot easier than AE. Motion does pretty much anything AE does, most of the time faster and easier. Without Motion, you can't do custom templates. You can't customize the encoding of files without Compressor. Why would you want to remove them from your system? Leave them, use AE if you want along side of them. But I'd learn Motion first. Cause AE doesn't read FCPXML, so going back and forth between them is a PITA.
And until Apple releases the round trip between FCP X and Motion fully, we have this gem:
http://www.alexnking.com/2012/02/20/fcpx-send-to-motion-app/

Importing AVI files from Adobe Premiere into Final Cut Pro 5

I am editing a video for someone who captured the footage on a PC with Adobe Premiere, and he gave me a hard drive with the AVI files. Is there any way I can import them or convert them to import in Final Cut Pro 5?
If not, would settings should he use when he exports the captured footage so that I can use it?

Hello there,
you can use QuickTime Player to convert the files. You need QuickTime Pro for export functionality, though.
Step by step as follows:
1. Open the AVI file in QT Player, select "File > Export".
2. In the "Export:" pulldown select "Movie to QuickTime Movie".
3. Select "Default settings" in the "Use:" pulldown.
4. Click "Options" right to the first pulldown menu.
5. Click "Settings" in the "Video" pane.
6. Set Compression type to "DV/DVCPRO - NTSC".
7. Set other options (interlaced/progressive) as needed.
8. Click "OK".
9. Set audio options in the "Sound" pane using the "Settings" button. (I don't have an AVI w/ sound here, so please see FCPs DV-NTSC Easy setup for approriate audio settings).
10. Click "OK".
11. Optionally: name the file.
12. Click "Save".
For the remaining files, use the "Most recent settings" option in the "Use:" pulldown of the export dialog.
Unfortunately, while QT Player can export multiple files simultaneously, it has no batch capabilities, so you have to open and export each file by hand.
Also, I'm not sure if QuickTime recompresses the files or just changes the container (even if the codec is the same).
Other than that I always recommend Flip4Mac's Episode for this kinda work. This app even has a conversion preset for this. Also Episode allows for changing the container format (AVI -> QuickTime) without recompressing the frames.
Hop this helps, Oliver

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