Firewire 800, 7200 rpm external drive options?

I have a Early 2011 Macbook Pro (8,2). I'm looking for a speedy external harddrive to do video editing with. My internal drive is a 256GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD...not a lot of space to store video. So I'd like a fast external.
Problem is, the few Firewire 800, 7200 rpm external drives I've found on Amazon all have TERRIBLE reviews when used with Macs. For some reason, none of these things from Buffalo or Western Digital seem to work with Macs, according to Amazon reviews.
Can anyone recommend a 1 TB external with Firewire 800 and 7200rpm that would be good for video editing, that also works on a Mac 8,2 Early 2011 running the latest OS X?
Thanks!

I have a 1 TB Lacie d2 Quadra but it's a desktop external disk. It's a great disk with FireWire 800, eSATA and USB 2.0 and 3.0. If you are going to use the MacBook Pro at home, I recommend this drive

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What are the best affordable external drive options for my iMac ?

Hello,
I am a fairly recent newcomer to Macintosh as my primary personal computing platform. I have recently installed Adobe CS4 Design Premium Student Edition on a late 2006 20in iMac and have several important questions about external hard drives. First of all, everyone knows that using any personal computer (whether you its a Macintosh, or a PC running Windows and/or Linux) without an acceptable way to backup critical data is no different than driving in your car without your seat belt fastened. I need advice for a good external hard disk solution for backup and several other important computing tasks given the following realities
1. Contrary to what I to originally thought, I do not have Firewire 800, but instead have access to dual firewire 400 ports in addition to USB 2.0. My concern over connection speed in regards to Adobe's recommendation to use RAID 0 arrays for scratch disks used by Photoshop CS4. Adobe also recommends that scratch disks for photoshop CS4 are assigned on a hard disk that is not your startup disk. Nontheless, Adobe has no objection to use your startup disk assuming it has plently of Free space (and mine does w/ 189.53 GB available)
2. Do really need RAID 0 to achieve the performance I would need? I had prior Mac based training with Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, and Indesign, in High school. I have not used this software in 4 years and am not only trying to refresh my skills but to learn the software. In other words I am still in the beginner stage With practice and patience, I will certainly learn the software and use it to the best of my creative energies. Given the situation if my work becomes complex enough over time how important is RAID 0 when I make purchase of an external hard disk? I known that the disk utility in Mac OS X allows the user to create a Raid array. This seems like the cheapest way to accomplish the job. However, the purchase of an external Hard Drive must be able to safely backup my system and also provide adequate performance.
3. Speaking of backup, I am one of those users who is still stubbornly clinging to Mac OS X Tiger. However, updating to a new OS has been required ritual for my previous two PCs. That said given that Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard will be out in mere months, I do not see the wisdom now in upgrading to Leopard. After all as a higher education student, money is tight and see Snow Leopard as far more compelling and future-proof upgrade. Snow Leopard is getting better plumbing and will also include Microsoft Exchange Server support (possibly the biggest selling point). I also have interest in using Boot Camp in 10.6 (or 10.5) for running windows software (that are useful for my academics) and games (particularly Half-Life 2 and other Steam games that can run well within my Mac's fairly limited gaming capabilities. If I decide to use Boot Camp I have to partition my internal hard disk. This further complicates finding a very reasonable, affordable, and reliable external disk solution given everything that I have mentioned. Any help is highly appreciated.
Thanks.

I don't think you should worry about the RAID stuff. The only way you could create a RAID is by using external drives, or one those external enclosures with two drives inside. Any speed advantage of such a RAID would be mostly negated by the FireWire 400 connection.
Use your internal drive space for speed critical functions. Use a FireWire 400 external drive for additional storage space, where speed is important but not critical, such as storing your existing media (including your things like your iTunes library files). Use a separate cheaper USB 2.0 external drive for your Time Machine (or whatever method) backup archive, where speed is not that important at all (some people even use a network connection for their Time Machine backup).
You can get a FireWire 800 drive and use an adapter to connect to FireWire 400. The connection won't be any faster on your iMac, but you can use the drive later with a Mac that does have FireWire 800. There are drives that have FireWire 400 and 800, and USB 2.0.
I like the drives sold by OWC
http://www.macsales.com/
I often buy the drive enclosure empty and find a good deal on the hard drive mechanism that I want. OWC sells most of their drives empty. My current Time Machine drive is actually one of these USB adapters
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2NV2SPATA/
connected to a Western Digital 750GB SATA drive that I got for about $70. Found that deal through dealmac.com. Couldn't think of a cheaper way to add that large amount of backup space, and it works very well. The internal drive in my iMac is only 160GB, so most of my personal data is on an external FireWire 400 drive; both drives are backed up by Time Machine.

Is Thunderbolt fast enough to run all LR5 data from a 7200 rpm external HHD??

Hi,
I was wondering if Thunderbolt was fast enough to run all LR5 data ( LRCAT, Previews and RAW files ) from a 7200 rpm external HHD or do I need to go with a Thunderbolt 2 setup?? RAW files no greater than 80mb.

AuggyDoggy wrote:
I am concerned with speed round-tripping between PS and LR and creating prviews and saving files. I will be using a 4 core nMacPro 3.7Ghz and while it is capable of using TB2 which is twice as fast it is almost twice as expnesive. I am purchaing a CalDigit T3 external TB RAID box.
These items in Lightroom (creating previews, rending photos to export or send to photoshop) are largely dependent on CPU speed, the disk speed is such a small portion of the total time involved that its probably irrelevant and you'd never notice the difference between fast drives and slow drives. I can't speak about Photoshop, but you know what, none of this addresses the issue of what is "fast" to you and what is not fast to you, and in fact I doubt such a thing can adequately covered in a forum anyway.

CTO Seagate 500 GB 7200 RPM Hard Drive Issues (beeps, clicks, freeze, hang)

The other threads on this issue have gotten completely out of hand with most new posters not bothering to read the older posts. So we still get "It's the optical drive" and "It's a problem with all 7200 RPM drives" or "It's all MacBooks that have the problem." Those posts aren't helping any of us with the specific issue noted in this subject fix our problem and gather helpful information. This thread is only for those experiencing issues with the CTO Seagate Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420ASG 500GB 7200 RPM hard drive. If you don't have that drive and are having problems with your new MacBook Pro, please start a new topic or look for an existing one that matches your issue.
_CTO Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420ASG 500GB 7200 RPM Problems_:
1. *The drive beeps intermittently*. Unusual sound and not typical of any other hard drive I've ever used in a MacBook Pro or PowerBook.
2. *The drive clicks/clacks quite loudly*. This is much louder than typical drive behavior.
3. Most importantly, *the drive freezes or hangs* in conjunction with the other sounds. It causes games to freeze for a second. It causes HD video to hang momentarily. It brings whatever task you're doing to a complete stop for a second or so, several times per hour.
4. These issues all occur while the MacBook Pro is sitting on a desk, untouched and unmoving. It's not related to any specific user input or action.
Troubleshooting
1. SMS: The built in SMS may conflict with the G-Force technology in the Seagate drive. While it's odd that Apple chose to use the drives with G-Force, disabling SMS has not fixed the issue.
2. *OS X*: It's been suggested this is a problem with OS X and its power management. However, users have reported the problems continue when booted into Boot Camp. This would seem to eliminate OS X as a factor.
3. *Normal Behavior*: Several users have said this is normal behavior for 7200 RPM drives. Apple themselves have reportedly told this to users calling for a fix. I can only say I've used 7200 RPM drives in my MacBooks exclusively since they were available and I've never had this issue with any of them. This is not normal behavior, especially the freeze/hang associated with the beeps and clicks.
4. *Change Energy Saver Settings*: Set Energy Saver so the drives won't sleep. This has not fixed the issue for me. I always set the drives not to sleep as a matter of practice (necessary for HD video & Aperture work) and the issue remains.
5. *Problem with all MacBooks regardless of drive*: This is total b.s. We've got several MBPs here at my company and none of them have the issue.
_One Solution_
In May, I purchased a Seagate Momentus 7200.4 ST9500420AS 500GB 7200 RPM from NewEgg.com. Note that this is a non G-Force model of the same CTO drive. I had been using it in an external FW enclosure. I decided to swap the drives. *With the NewEgg 500/7200 drive in my 2009 MBP (3.06GHz), all of the issues are gone. The drive doesn't beep, doesn't click, and never, ever hangs or freezes.* It's whisper quite and very, very fast. I literally can't hear it unless I put my ear on the case.
The CTO drive, now housed in a FW800 external enclosure, continues to have the same problems. It no longer beeps, but clicks and clacks loudly, and still hangs and freezes. This would seem to entirely isolate the drive as the problem and remove the MacBook Pro from the equation.
Some posters in the other thread claim that Apple engineering has reviewed the problem, witnessed the beeps, clicks, and freezes, and had labeled them "normal behavior." If true, this is unacceptable. It is impossible to do any professional work, or even play a game for that matter, with a drive that constantly hangs or freezes. We have to stay diligent in pursuing a fix. Be polite, be friendly, but be persistent.
Message was edited by: KBeat Fixed typo, added one more troubleshooting step.

My revision is 0006APM2 also. I would like to know this info as well especially since some posters are not having this problem.
That said - I think there is a business strategy behind all this. Apple is saying there is no problem so that they don't have to recall ALL drives in whatever spec, revision, etc., since that is an extremely expensive resolution. Instead, I think they will quietly fix it in an update and all of a sudden you will notice your drive isn't clicking and hesitating. Perhaps if there are drives out there that can't be corrected in this manner, they will issue a recall/replacement. Being in the software business, I tend to think it will play out this way. The few hotheads that actually return their machine will pale in comparison to the cost of a recall - especially if the affected batch of drives was large in scope.
I think if everyone sits tight it will get fixed. If not, the drive is only a $100-$150 component of this expensive computer and it can be user replaced. I do however strongly encourage anyone with this problem to report it to Apple regardless of the outcome.

G4 firewire port is damaging external drives

My 400 MHz G4 tower has suddenly started killing the firewire ports on my external drives (four in total). I found out I have what is known as a "killer firewire port". Has anyone else ever heard of this and If so can I fix this problem by simply installing a new firewire port PCI card on my G4?

Hi
If a firewire port or connector is poorly manufactured or excessively worn due to lots of plugging and unplugging, it is possible for a power pin in the port to connect to a data pin in the connector, frying whatever's attached to the other end of the cable. Assuming the problem lies with the port and not the connector, a PCI card should solve the problem. I'm not sure whether you've tried using different cables to rule out the connector. You could see how much you can waggle the connector in the port (with everything switched off at the wall socket).

FireWire does not recognize external drives anymore

FireWire devices are not recognized after using software upgrade. USB 2 still works but firewire port does not mount any external drives. How can I check if my MacBook Pro has a hardware or software problem? I appreciate any help.

Thought you could use this info about getting FireWire to work!
First, you should always Repair Permissions in Disk Utility before and after any update; I would do that now. If you installed your update with FireWire plugged in, your Mac may not recognize it anymore.
Try resetting your FireWire ports by disconnecting all FW devices, shut down your Mac and unplug it from AC power (wall socket) for 30 minutes. plug it back in and try FW.
If that didn't work, download the combo update from this site (yours may be corrupt), not Software Update, disconnect all firewire + USB devices except keyboard + mouse, Repair Permissions, re-install update, Repair Permissions again + try.
If that still didn't get it Zap the PRAM. While restarting Mac hold down the following key combo Command-Option-P-R. Keep holding those keys down till you hear the second start-up chime, then release.
For those of you with Macs that are not PowerBooks or iBooks, a bad internal battery can cause FireWire to not be recognized, so make sure it's good! Also, here is Apple doc.#88338 on getting FireWire to work.
Here's another Fw Faq.
DALE

Time Capsule and External Drive Options

I wanted to inquire if I can use my Time Capsule as an external drive. Reading some of the questions submitted I am still a little unclear. Here is my issue, I have a macbook pro and I am reaching my maximum capacity on my hard drive space. Most of the data is iMovie, Photos, and iTunes. Now I do not need all this data all the time, it just sits on my macbook pro as if it is being stored. I would like to move this to a external drive and I assumed the Time Capsule functions as a external drive. But reading all the posts in the communities it seems like that the Time Capsule can hold some space as an external drive but then if the TC starts to reach its maximum capacity it would delete the stored data. I am interested in doing the following, please guide me if this is possible:
1) The videos/music/pictures that I do not need anymore but would like to archive it, can I store it on the Time Capsule and treat it like an external drive?
2) I got a 2TB TC which I know only 250GB space would be utilized maximum by my MacBook Pro and the remaining space would be utilized for nothing. Unless for instance my Macbook backs up everyday to the TC and it stores 250GB each day then it would reach its maximum capacity on the TC really quickly and will delete the latest version of back up automatically. Is that true? Or does the TC only creates another back up of the changes found. I am just trying to figure out if I can somehow utilize the space on the TC for storage especially if I know that I probably wont have enough data for 2TB.
3) What are my options if I want to store the data and want to retrieve it at my disposal. I just want to make more space on my MacBook Pro.
4) What is the return policy on the TC if opened?
Thank you

But reading all the posts in the communities it seems like that the Time Capsule can hold some space as an external drive but then if the TC starts to reach its maximum capacity it would delete the stored data.
When space is tight on the drive, Time Machine will automatically start to delete the oldest Time Machine backups to make room for newer backups.
But, Time Machine will leave any regular files or folders that you might have stored on the drive untouched. Those files will never be deleted unless you delete them yourself.
1) The videos/music/pictures that I do not need anymore but would like to archive it, can I store it on the Time Capsule and treat it like an external drive?
If you move any files from your Mac, then the only copy of those files that you will have will be on the Time Capsule drive. You have no backups for these files, so you might want to think about this a bit. If your attitude is such that if the files are lost due to a Time Capsule drive problem, and it is of no great concern, that's one thing.
If losing thes files would cause you grief, you would want to think about having a backup plan in place for the "original" files that you move to the Time Capsule drive. For some reason, users seem to forget that if they move a file from their Mac to another drive, they only have one copy of that file....unless they create backups manually.
Unless for instance my Macbook backs up everyday to the TC and it stores 250GB each day then it would reach its maximum capacity on the TC really quickly and will delete the latest version of back up automatically. Is that true?
Sounds like you are confused about how Time Machine works. The Time Machine application will back up everything on your Mac on the first backup. After that, it only backups up any changes that you make to the Mac.
If you do not anticipate making a a lot of changes or adding a lot of new data, your backups will remain very small. If on the other hand you regularly add a number of new large images from your camera, or new movies, Time Machine will be backing up each new set of images or movies that you add.
3) What are my options if I want to store the data and want to retrieve it at my disposal. I just want to make more space on my MacBook Pro.
You can move files from your Mac to the Time Capsule if you want to, as long as you remember that when you do this, you are moving the "original" files to the Time Capsule disk. You will have no backups in the evernt of a problem with the Time Capsule.
It sounds a bit harsh....but the truth remains that all drives will fail. If your Time Capsule fails , you lose the Time Machine backups, but you still have the "original" files on your Mac.
If you move an "original" file off of your Mac to the Time Capsule and the Time Capsule fails....you have no backups of these files.
The whole idea about a good backup plan is that you have "originals" on one drive and "backups" on another.....in case one drive fails, you still have a copy of everything. Make sense?
4) What is the return policy on the TC if opened?
Best to ask the store that you buy from about their return policies in advance. We can't speak for any stores, or for Apple here.

2013 Mac Pro external drive options...?

So I have my new Mac Pro and it is pretty good....! I have a 500GB drive which is just so dam fast, but it is only 500GB.... and I'm coming from a 2010 Pro with 6TB of storage via a Drobo FireWire 800 RAID (still bummed that a pro machine shipped in 2010 with SATA 3 and USB 2, but I getting over it now!).
Anyway, I need to replace the Drobo. They have a Thunderbolt model, but it is Thunderbolt 1 not 2. LaCie also Thunderbolt 1. Now I know that Pegasus have a Thunderbolt 2 RAID box. So here is my question - does a 7200rpm drive top out at less or more than Thunderbolt 1 speeds? What about an SSD drive (given how prices are going I've gotta assume that I'll be able to afford an SSD RAID in a few years.....
I'm mostly a photographer, but I do edit a few videos per year. Speed and efficiency are really important to me.
What are people using? I've never used Pegasus and don't know anyone who has, but my Drobo has been solid for 4 years now and I would not hesitate to get another. Thanks in advance.

Maybe I am just too cheap, but I look at that OWC setup with a ThunderBolt to eSATA, and for US$229 (empty), you get a two-drive ThunderBolt-adapted enclosure. That has a lot more appeal than US$1400 for a Promise enclosure.
Thunderbolt made affordable...
OWC MercuryElite Pro+
Lacie ThunderbolteSATA Adapter
RAID Ready | eSATA x 2
They are also showing a new (not yet available) two-drive enclosure with dual ThunderBolt and USB-3, coming soon.

OSX will not run on my new Seagate 7200 rpm 160GB drive

I tried 'restoring' to this drive as an external drive but this Macbook will not start up from it. I have been all over the internet and seen where people are using this drive as a replacement internal drive. I partitioned it as one partition and then as two 80s. Each time I try to install OSX on it from my restore disk it shows up as a drive, but with a red exclamation and OSX says it cant go on that disk. I can write to the disk and it mounts as both internal and external, but I can not figure out how anyone is getting OSX to run from it. The drive is a Seagate ST916082 3ASG. It is a SATA, and both it and my previous Toshiba drive will mount in the external case that I got for it. I think it is an OSX weirdness.

Hi dancarmack;
Changing to the Guid Partition Table is an option when reformatting.
Reformat will wipe out all data on the disk.
You don't have to worry about OS 9 drivers. Your MacBook does not run OS 9.
Allan
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Best external drive options?

I need more external drive space for storing video. At present I'm working with two LaCie 500GB external drives, which are proving good enough but getting very full; but I was hoping to move to a 1TB option next. (I realise I'm just running to keep still when it comes to storage, but I have a project starting shortly and once it's over I'll review my storage options and think about what to do with my set-up).
Anyway, I was hoping someone could give me advice about a 1TB system. The G-Tech G-Raid looks like a good drive (I'm reluctant to commit to LaCie again, as a third drive failed on me and I lost all my data). What I want to know is: can the G-Tech just be plugged in and used out of the box?

If you are running a MacPro, a much more cost effective way to go is to load the internal drive bays with 500GB or 750GB drives. Since the internal connections are SATA, you will have excellent throughput. If you need a RAID, you can create a two or three drive RAID using the Apple software that comes with the machine.
If you go this way, do not put your system disk into the RAID setup - only drives used for media.
Good luck,
x

Using a 7200 RPM hard drive- too hot?

A question about hard drives and heat. I've read using a 7200 RPM HD in a fanless slot load iMac may be too hot. What has been people's experiences with this? Does anyone have suggestions of cooler running drives? I have a 60 GB 7200 RPM IBM Deskstar that was original equipment in the Digital Audio I had that I'd like to try in my iMac to replace the original 4400 RPM 20 GB drive.
Also, has anyone added any fans to the inside case of their slot loader?

Hey Steve,
Here's a discussion from:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6805878&#6805878
">Other forums say that "modern" 7200rpm drives do not get dangerously hot. How modern is 2002?
Well if it were me and wanting to save everything I could I would go ahead. When this came up before I suggested putting a wrapped copper heat sink around the drive. I would at least put a thermal pad between the drive and the mass store cage to maximize heat transfer. (this is what's done in the eMac) If you did that you'd probably want to do the same thing between the cage and the divider panel.
I would then monitor the drive temp and if I felt it was too high I would go to a wrapped heat sink.
still too high - mini fan scab power off the 12 V supply to the drive.
When this was brought up before I read a study that said that there was no correlation in drive temps and failure rates."
Also, has anyone added any fans to the inside case of their slot loader?
I did this. Mounted a 12V squirrel cage fan in my son's iMac 500. It was just below the upper vents. I scabbed power off the 12V from the hard drive.
It worked in there for about two years but I noticed it was kind of noisy even tho' that's the quietest type of fan.
Later I thought you could mount a more conventional type directly over the back of the HD mounting cage.
However in all these iMacs the most common point of failure is in the upper part of the iMac. ( The PAV board ) Most often this is due to heat buildup and involves the high voltage capacitors and flyback transformer. That was actually why I mounted that fan in the upper section.
Richard
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Fast External Drive Options Macbook Pro 15"

Hello.
I own a 15" Macbook pro 15" core i5 processor in it etc.. I have a dock style enclosure for 2 SATA hard drives that has USB connect and also eSATA. The USB is INCREDIBLY SLOW. I am waiting sometimes 2-3 minutes just to have a song start playing in iTunes... I am looking for a way to use eSATA on this laptop. I bought an Expresscard/34 with eSATA on it because I read that would work with Macbook pros but I was dissapointed when I found out that this generation of them does not support it!! I am running ProTools M-Powered 8, which requires me to use my only Firewire port to hook up my audio interface.
I love my Macbook and the MacOS, everything about it is better but this small problem is a large hindrance to my workflow. I guess I should add that the hard drive dock is plugged into a Hub. Perhaps If I plug the dock into the second USB port which I hope has it's own separate bus I should see SOME improvement. =(
Perhaps somebody here has something that might help.

I knew it wasn't going to cut it, I just don't know much about all these small revisions to the macbook pro. Having never seen an expresscard before I assumed that the SD card slot doubled as the expresscard slot. The people at my apple store said nothing about the expresscard not being on the 15" model when I bought it and asked questions about it. In fact they went looking for expresscards for eSATA at the apple store and ended up recommending Newegg to purchase one. I've just been really mis-informed about this whole expresscard thing.
I guess I can sell this eSATA/USB dock and look for a firewire hub and enclosure. are there any docks that are reasonable priced?
By the way, My internal drive works fine for playing back audio that has already been recorded. Mixing is actually faster than on my desktop! The mac screams compared to it. I have sessions in excess of 5gb of audio that play back fine off the system drive, but I will need a decently fast external drive in order to record audio. No Digital Audio workstations respond well when recording to the system drive. =/

7200 RPM ATA Drive?

How can I confirm that my new MacBookPro actually came with the upgraded 7200 rpm drive? System Profiler names the hard drive and confirms the correct hard drive size (160 gigs) but nowhere indicates the rpm. I paid extra for this and simply want to know it was included. Any suggestions on how to confirm this? Thanks!

If there's a model number for the drive listed in the Profiler, then plug this into Google and see what comes up. (If no model #, try other info from the profiler.) You'll likely see many vendors for the drive in question and their specs for the drive will tell you what's up with it's rotational speed.
Better yet, some of the Google results may even point you straight to the manufacturer's site where you can get the info from "the horse's mouth".

FireWire problems (Eyetv and external drive)

Hello,
Has anyone seen problems with the firewire where two devices cannot be plugged in at the same time to the iMac? I have an external FW drive and an eyetv 200 box. When I plug in to the second port on the iMac and turn on the drive the eyetv disconnects (flashing red light on the eyetv) and no live tv signal. This disconnect happens regardless of whether it is the top or bottom FireWire port the EyeTV is plugged into. If I plug the eyetv into the Harddrive same thing and if I plug the hard drive into the eyetv, the eyetv dies again. Please let me know if any one has seen this problem. There weren't any obvious fix's at el gato's site. On my old DP 800 I did not have this problem.
Thank you for any help.
-Monterey

Hi, I am guessing that the new iMacs we have, have a "limited FireWire" power output, meaning the EyeTV unit is drawing too much power from the FW bus; If I am not wrong, the EyeTV unit does come with an optional power cord for self-external power supply and not need to draw from the FW port? You can try that.
Another way to test is if you have a self-powered FW hub, try plugging into that and see if it works.
Cheers

Is it possible to put a larger 7200 rpm hard drive in my Mini?

Howdy folks.
Just a quick question...is it possible to put a off-the-shelf notebook 200 or 300gig 7200rpm hard drive into my Mac Intel Dual core Mini? Are there heat issues with this speed drive and if not, can I get one at any Comp USA or C. City or Best Buy? (Right now my new Mini has an 5400 80gig drive in it.)
Also, if I can do this can someone guide me to a site or an article on how to do this. Finally, will any type of notebook drive suffice or is there something I should look for as a specific type drive for the Mini?
Many thanks in advance for the assistance.
Randy

Thank you...I looked at the videos and they are indeed very helpful. (Though getting the Mini open doesn't look like much fun!)
Wondering still however....any heat issues from a 7200 drive over a 5400, or is it a pretty much moot point?
Thank you in advance for the help.
Randy

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