Fm area, segment

Hi all,
what is the different between functional area and fm area ?
what is the different between segment and profit center ?
can anybody explain me
Regards
bala

Hi
Functional area is used in cost of sales accounting. It is used to register expenses through different functional areas.
FM area is used in fund management module.
Profit centre is used for managing profit centres in a company code. You can create self-sufficient balance sheets and income states for a profit centre. It is a company inside a company concept.
Segment is a region or division of a company's business which deals with a responsibility such as a product group or a business division. This can enable you for segment reporting under the statute. Say for example if you have four types of products, cars, lorries, two-wheelers, heavy trucks.. Under segment reporting, you will be required to report the activity of these segment (earning revenue 10% or more of the total revenue or asset investment of 10% or more..please check the relevant law). Segment definition would be a solution for this.
Regards

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Business area, segment or profit center

I have following situation. My customer is a company which is situated all over the country. So, this 'parts' of the company are acting like companies inside a company. There is a need for producing balance sheet and P&L statement per this parts. Next topic is that this customer has a need for producing balance sheet and P&L statement per line of businesses.
My question is what to use. First idea was to create this 'parts' of company as a business areas and line of businesses to present as profit centers. My concern here is reconciliation between business areas and that now I have to include BA as an organizational element in the structure (every cost center belongs to BA, etc...). But I was reading about New GL and Segments and I came to an idea to use segment instead BA. But I can not find report, for ie. which should present AR or AP per Segment? Also, I don't know are segments sufficient for 'internal invoicing' which occurs in the company.
My question is, can this needs be fulfilled with segments + profit centers approach, or I must use BA.
Thank in advance!

Hello,
whether you use BA, profit center or segment, you have to carefully assess whether you activate or not the NewGL setting that requires FI documents to match (debet=credit) by segment, for example. If not activating, you can not easily guarantee that all line items are assigned to segement. If activating, there is a lot of spefication and testing to make sure that segment information is derived or entered.
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Auvo Ahola

Business Area & Segment

Dear Friends,
Can any one tell me what is the basic differnce between Business Area and Segment in ECC 6
Thanks & Regards
Raj

Hi,
The Business area & segment are used for the legal reporting of your account standards,
The Business area you can define & used in all the posting transaction & Accounting standard report can be derived from the business area.
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Bus. area, Segment fields in MM accounting documents

Hi all of you,
We have balancing fields Business area, PCtr and Segment. In every accounting document we have to fill the balancing fields. It is working fine in FI postings. When coming to MM postings, like in P.O -> GR -> IR there is no possible to enter or derive the balancing fields with out Account assignment category. If we are selecting the account assignment category in P.O then system is not posting the inventory to the BSX account.
Client requirement is to post every inventory postings to the respective balancing fields only as he is taking financial reports for each balancing fields.
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Anyone please help me out regarding.
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raise a message with sap and check what they suggest. (being its missed functionality)

MRP area for running a sale order MRP

Hello PP experts,
I come across a scenario where , I need to do the MRP run for sale order in a MRP area. I have checked , I can put PIR with respect to MRP AREA , but when I open MD50 screen for running MRP for sale order. I did not found the MRP AREA
field in the screen.
In short , my question is , How the sale order MRP run , system will do in a MRP
area defined for the material ?
Here , I have already defined the material is MRP AREA and also I have created
MRP area segment in the material master.
I have also configured the MRP area in SPRO.
Waiting for your reply.
Regards,

Hello ,
Thanks for reply.
I am using plant MRP area. For FERT , I am using make to order strategy 20.
I want to specify the real problem. It is like below.
Suppose 'A ' is sumassembly goes to a variant configured MTO KMAT say 'V'.
The same 'A' subassembly is a child for a make to stock FERT say ' S'.
Presently using strtegy 11 for MTS fert 'S' and 10 for the subassembly ---'A'.
Now the planner want to plan for the subassembly.
He is putting the PIR for the subassembly as sales order is not availble and he is putting the PIR for FERT 'S'.
When sales order is coming then additinal quantity planning is happening.
So I suggested to use the strategy 70 for subassembly 'A' , so the sales order (of 'V') OF quantity will be offset for the PIR of the SUBASSEMBLY 'A'.
But the consumption of PIR of 'A' will be apllicable to MTS FERT that is 'S'.
So how can we prevent the system from offsetting the dependent requiremet triggered from the PIR of 'A'.
That means the consumption (that is the usage of stategy 70) of the FERT requirement should only work for ' A' and sales order based KMAT 'V'.
The same offseting should not work for subassembly 'A' and MTS FERT 'S'.
For for Make to order KAMT 'V' , if I use MRP area and do the sales order planning in MRP area. Will I get the desired result ?
Waiting for reply.
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Hi,
I think the problem is caused by missing customizing that required in activating New GL. After activating the new GL, you also need to activate the inheritance.
So, If you create a document of Customer or Vendor invoice from Revenue or Expense item, the entities such as Business area, segment or Profit center will be projected to the customer/Vendor and tax line item in General ledger view by activating inheritance field.
The menu path is follow:
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Tick the inheritance field.
Please try.
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Converting segments of MS Word doc to lists.

I am pasting MS Word docs into my web page. There are segments of the doc that have names, placed initially by setting and using the tab key. there may be 3 columns of first and last names. HOW... can I align these when I copy them. This must be a common problem.. can someone point to a decent complete tutorial? or... for example.. the steps to turn the following into aligned text on my web page
Shareholders:     Tom Jones                    Bill Strong          Ralph Smith
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Here then would be another paragraph to be included but is not part of the list.
Any help most appreciated.... getting very frustrated trying to find the trick on my own. From what I have read... it seems I "should" be able to select a number of words.. apply a class and have the padding move it the required number of pixels... I would need 3 different classes to pad to 3 different locations... That does not work consistently... sometimes it does.. sometimes it does not. From what I have read I "should" also be able to use the make list feature... tried that in HTML then use CSS to remove the bullet.. well that sort of works but I can not capture the second and third rows of names. I can see using an AP div... but that seems really complicated... there must be an easy way

Hi Ralph,
Please use the Copy/Paste settings in DW Prefereces to set this up. If you need just the structure with basic formatting from your word doc then choose option 3rd and if you want exactly as that in word then use option 4th.
Just try these options and see what suits you best.
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I have added a new attribute to existing DFF in standard forms, and that DFF is there on standard OA Page. But the newly added attribute is not visible on OA Page. pls Help
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Hello Raghav,
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Stock Transport from plant to MRP Area

I have been looking for explanation on how to handle replenishment of MRP area storage location stocks within a plant. We use Special procurement types but they are set up on for plants, not MRP areas. Can anyone explain how this works and the configuration to make it work? Were setting up a warehouse as an MRP area and need to replenish its stocks with MRP.

Aren't your questions answered in SAP online help?
Integration
The process is the same as for Storage Location MRP. In contrast to the storage location MRP, you can use all MRP procedures and are not limited to the reorder point planning procedure.
Prerequisites
In Customizing for MRP, you have created the special procurement key for Stock transfer from plant to MRP area for the plant in which the MRP area is located. You have defined the following parameters:
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- Special procurement: U for Stock transfer
- Plant: Number of plant, to which the MRP area belongs.
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Features
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The external procurement storage location that you have entered in the MRP area segment of the material master is used as the receiving storage location. If you have not maintained this field, the system uses the receiving storage location that you entered for the MRP area in Customizing.
The actual procurement is processed by the plant. With stock transfer to the MRP area, you carry out the transfer posting for the material with reference to the reservation.
Standard procurement key 45 is for that purpose: plant: 1000 (V460A-WERKS), procurement key F; special procurement: U; plant: 1000 (V460A-WRK02).
So, in both fields you have to write the same plant as it is clearly written in SAP onilne help.
As SAP help says: a Stock transfer reservation is created. Using MIGO (A08; R09) you can post the goods movement by mvt 311 with reference to the Stock transfer reservation (MB1A is also good).
Why don't you test in in your sandbox system and you will see how it works.
(If you want to use STO (purchasing document type UB) in this process you have to go trough OSS note 599915)
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 12, 2009 11:46 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 12, 2009 11:48 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Jun 12, 2009 11:48 PM

Segments in New GL

Can someone please tell me what are segments in New GL. I have read somewhere they are derived from Profit Center. So what exactly are they and what is their use?

Hi,
Lets take one small example.
Consider Car industry.
You willl have SUV, Luxury, Small car are the segments.
Of this If I geographically want to know the profitability like South , north etcs. these become profict centers.
In the profit center master data you have the segment feild where you will assign teh segent to profit center.
It implies that one segment can have many profit centers and one profit center can only belong to one segment.
For better understanding of the segmental reporting go through the following links.
http://www.answers.com/topic/segment-reporting?cat=biz-fin
www.mca.gov.in/MinistryWebsite/dca/notification/pdf/AS_17.pdf
www.pwc.com/Extweb/service.nsf/docid/FE161F5660F398EC8025713E0045BBE6
books.google.co.in/books?isbn=0764152823...
Reward if useful
Sarma

Customer not maintained in sales area

when i create sales order system is throwing a error message
like
customer not maintained in sales area....
in va01, after entering sold to party i am getting this error....
what should be configuration setting for setting this right.... kindly advise

Hello,
As told by Venkat, you are required to maintain the Sales Area data.
By seeing the error there is something that you are missing in Configuration.
Go to XD02 and extend your customer. You only must have created two segments. Extend the customer to sales are segment.
Thanks,
Ravi

Temporary segment can't be dropped after upgrading from 9.2.0.1 to 9.2.0.8

After upgrading oracle from 9.2.0.1 to 9.2.0.8 ,alert.log show some corrupted block ,dbv also confirm the errors.
alert log:
SMON: enabling tx recovery
Wed Aug 12 21:47:23 2009
Database Characterset is ZHS16GBK
Wed Aug 12 21:47:23 2009
Hex dump of Absolute File 6, Block 11 in trace file d:\oracle\admin\oracle9i\bdump\oracle9i_smon_1100.trc
Corrupt block relative dba: 0x0180000b (file 6, block 11)
Bad header found during buffer read
Data in bad block -
type: 35 format: 2 rdba: 0x0040000b
last change scn: 0x0000.00000000 seq: 0xff flg: 0x04
consistency value in tail: 0x000023ff
check value in block header: 0x551d, computed block checksum: 0x0
spare1: 0x0, spare2: 0x0, spare3: 0x0
Reread of rdba: 0x0180000b (file 6, block 11) found same corrupted data
Hex dump of Absolute File 6, Block 19 in trace file d:\oracle\admin\oracle9i\bdump\oracle9i_smon_1100.trc
Corrupt block relative dba: 0x01800013 (file 6, block 19)
Bad header found during buffer read
Data in bad block -
type: 35 format: 2 rdba: 0x00400013
last change scn: 0x0000.00000000 seq: 0xff flg: 0x04
consistency value in tail: 0x000023ff
check value in block header: 0x21f2, computed block checksum: 0x0
spare1: 0x0, spare2: 0x0, spare3: 0x0
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Hex dump of Absolute File 6, Block 195 in trace file d:\oracle\admin\oracle9i\bdump\oracle9i_smon_1100.trc
Corrupt block relative dba: 0x018000c3 (file 6, block 195)
Bad header found during buffer read
Data in bad block -
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consistency value in tail: 0x000000ff
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SYS@oracle9i>col segment_type for a20
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=11;
SEGMENT_NAME         SEGMENT_TYPE
6.11                 TEMPORARY
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=19;
SEGMENT_NAME         SEGMENT_TYPE
6.19                 TEMPORARY
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=195;
SEGMENT_NAME         SEGMENT_TYPE
6.195                TEMPORARY
smon can't clean the temporary segment,so I set event drop_segments ,but it also don't take effect

You could run dbms_repair to mark those blocks as corrupted.
You should
a. take the tablespace offline
b. run dbv a few times to confirm that it is always the same blocks and only these blocks in temporary segments that appear to be corrupted
c. use dbms_repair to mark the corrupted blocks
However, if it is always a segment header block that appears to be corrupted, it is suspicous behavioiur.
Also, SMON is failing on the corrupted blocks which are segment headers -- had the corrupted blocks not been segment headers then SMON would not have even been reading all the blocks. It only reads the header blocks (segment/extent) to free the extents.
But you should first go through your alert.log to find out when and, possiby why, those blocks are corrupt.

Simple question about segments

Good afternoon,
I am reading the Oracle Database Concepts and I want to make sure that I've understood correctly.
A segment may only contain physical data for ONE and ONLY ONE schema object. In other words, there cannot be a segment that would have 1 or more extents that are part of table 1 and other extents that are part of table 2.
Is this above statement correct in all cases ?
Thank you for your help,
John.

440bx - 11gR2 wrote:
I haven't gotten to the part about clusters yet, therefore I don't fully understand your reply because I thought that my sentences meant exactly the same thing. Therefore both should be true or both be false.You need to be very careful about the terminology you use. ;)
So far I've covered the relationships of Tablespace -> Segment -> Extent -> Block
I knew the following to be true:
1. a block can only contain one part of a schema object (be it part of a table, index, other)Again depends upon what do you mean by "part of a schema object"
2. an Extent is made up of mulitple blocks and, being the minimum logical unit of storage allocation it must therefore store one and only one schema object.Correct.
3. A Segment is made up of muliple extents. This one I was not certain about and caused my original question, which could be rephrased as, can a segment contain extents that are part of table1 (for instance) and another extent that is a part of an index for table88 and another extent that is a piece of table52 ?No. Aman has already described it very well.
Is the answer to (3) above ALWAYS NO_ , if it isn't then I have misunderstood something.Basically, you started your question with following statement
A segment may only contain physical data for ONE and ONLY ONE schema objectAnd that is certainly not correct. You are probably interchanging the words "extents" and "data" with each other. They can not be. Replace "data" with "extents" and your understanding so far is correct.
You may want to re-read your question after you read about clusters.The whole idea of clusters is being able to store related data close to each other, especially when it comes from different tables. Basically, clusters are segments on their own (and have extents of blocks assigned to it) and any tables created in clusters are only schema objects without any storage attributes of their own. This makes it possible to have a block in a segment (which is cluster) containing data from multiple tables (which are schema objects).
Hope this helps.

Sap pp -MRP-area

Hello SAP-Guruu2019s
Pls tell me the Procedure/steps/Details to maintain MRP-area for a Vendor & also for a Sub-Contractor.
Any comments welcome & Thanks in advanc

Hi,
Pls. find the following details regarding MRP Area :
MRP Area
Definition
The MRP area represents an organizational unit for which material requirements planning is carried out independently.
Basically, there are three types of MRP area:
Plant MRP Area
The plant MRP area initially contains the plant together with all its storage locations and stock with subcontractors.
When you have defined MRP areas for storage locations and for subcontractors and you have assigned the materials, the plant MRP area is reduced by exactly this number of subcontractors and storage locations. This is because they are now to be planned separately.
MRP Areas for Storage Locations
You can define an MRP area that consists of a particular storage location, by creating an MRP area and assigning the storage location to it. Material requirements for this storage location are then planned separately from the rest of the plant.
You can also group several storage locations into one MRP area, by creating an MRP area and assigning the storage locations to it. These storage locations are then planned together.
A storage location of a plant may be assigned to only one MRP area.
MRP Areas for Subcontractors
You can also define an MRP area for each subcontractor.
A subcontractor may be assigned to only one MRP area. An MRP area of the subcontractor type may also only contain one subcontractor.
Use
You can carry out MRP specifically for the determined MRP areas. This enables you to carry out differentiated material requirements planning. The requester can be, for example, the production on a particular assembly line or a subcontract order.
The MRP area allows you to have specific control over the staging and procurement of important parts produced in-house and purchased parts for each shop floor area. You can, however, also plan the provision of components for the individual subcontractors.
MRP areas of the storage location or subcontractor type are only suitable for:
components that are planned and produced for stock
finished products that are planned and produced for stock. By assigning a storage location in a sales order or by entering an MRP area when creating the planned independent requirements, you can define whether a material is planned in the plant MRP area or in the MRP area of the storage location.
Finished products and important assemblies intended for make-to-order or engineer-to-order production are always planned in the plant MRP area.
The planning run takes into account the planning with MRP areas as follows:
If you do not enter a separate scope of planning, the system plans the whole plant, that is, all MRP areas in the plant, during the total planning run. If you want to carry out a total planning run for a particular MRP area only, you must specify the required MRP area in the scope of planning.
During single-item, multi-level planning, the system plans the selected material in the MRP area entered. In addition, the system takes into account planning file entries from other MRP areas, for example, if the material is to be procured using stock transfer.
During single-item, single-level planning, the system plans the selected material in the MRP area entered only.
Structure
You define the MRP areas in Customizing for MRP. You can thereby assign the following to an MRP area:
one or more storage locations (example: you want to carry out planning for a particular assembly line and therefore assign a production storage location to the MRP area)
a subcontractor.
You assign the various MRP areas to the materials in the material master. For this, you create an MRP area segment for a material for every MRP area, in which it is used. In this MRP area segment, you can define MRP parameters such as, for example, the lot size or MRP type. This allows you to plan the material differently in the MRP area from how you plan it in the plant MRP area.
MRP with MRP areas for the material is not activated until the material has been assigned to an MRP area. If you have not assigned a material to an MRP area, that is, you have not created an MRP area segment in the material master, the material will continue to be planned in the plant MRP area only. If you have assigned an MRP area to it, the system can plan it in the plant MRP area and in the assigned MRP area.
Integration
You can carry out material requirements planning for MRP areas using all MRP procedures and all lot-sizing procedures.
You can also carry out an independent material forecast for MRP areas using your own parameters.
The material consumption values are updated separately for each MRP area.
A separate ATP check is carried out for each MRP area.
If several storage locations belong to an MRP area, the system can also carry out a check at two levels, that is, at storage location level and at MRP area level.
Example: Subcontractor
You can also carry out planning for components to be provided in subcontracting using an MRP area by defining an MRP area for every subcontractor and assigning the components to be provided to the MRP area of the subcontractor. You therefore plan the requirements to be provided for these components for one subcontractor separately from all other requirements (see Planning for Components to be Provided in Subcontracting).
Depending on the requirements situation, the system creates either stock transfer reservations from the plant to the stock of material provided of the subcontractor or it creates purchase requisitions within subcontracting/third-party order processing, according to the special procurement key settings.
Implementing MRP Areas
Implementation Options
The main reason for you to implement MRP areas is if you would like to plan materials, which are required in different shop floor areas, storage locations or by subcontractors, separately from one another.
As soon as you have activated materials requirements planning with MRP areas, this type of MRP is active at client level, that is, MRP will be carried out in this way in all plants.
Material requirements planning with MRP areas cannot be reversed.
Process Flow
You can implement material requirements planning with MRP areas in three steps:
You convert the existing planning file entries at plant level to planning file entries at MRP area level.
During the conversion, the system creates a plant MRP area for every plant as a background job. This, however, will not affect your planning. The processes in material requirements planning and the planning results remain unaffected.
The conversion is also useful even if you do not work with MRP areas, but still have to plan for several plants, as the new planning file improves system performance during the planning run.
You activate MRP with MRP areas in Customizing for MRP. This causes the MRP area field to appear in the applications of MRP and in related areas. When you enter the plant number, the system automatically fills the field with the number of the plant MRP area. The number of the plant MRP area is the same as the plant number.
This does not affect the planning run as the plant MRP area still corresponds to the present plant.
You define an MRP area, for example, for a storage location. You then assign the materials that are to be planned for this storage location, by creating an MRP area segment in the material master.
Materials requirement planning for this storage location is then carried out separately. The storage location stock is no longer included in the available stock of the plant MRP area. The receipt and issue elements of this storage location (MRP area) are also not taken into account in the plant MRP area. They are only taken into account in the MRP area of the storage location.
If you have already worked with storage location MRP the system still carries out storage location MRP even after the activation of MRP areas. You need to decide in principle whether you want to continue using storage location MRP or whether you want to create MRP areas for the storage locations that are planned separately. It is not possible to simultaneously plan a material using storage location MRP and an MRP area for the same storage location.
If you decide to use MRP areas, you should then try to convert all storage locations that are planned separately to MRP areas in one step. Before you assign the material to an MRP area, you must remove the MRP indicator, which is located in the material master at the storage location organizational level (view MRP 4) in the screen area Storage location MRP.
Even if you have defined MRP areas in Customizing, the system plans the materials in the plant MRP area until you assign the MRP areas to the materials.
Only the assignment of one or more MRP areas to a material, by creating MRP area segments in the material master, actually cause changes in the material requirements planning.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Tejas

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Hello ,
How are segments attached to a Message type. I want to know the step wise process if any as i am a novice in this field.
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Hi Vinod
Plse go to the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/6b82b043d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/frameset.htm
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