Force SYS password

Hi there,
in UNIX environment, after issue su - oracle, suppose we can straight login to sqlplus as sysdba without have to key in password.
su - oracle
$sqlplus '/as sysdba'
SQL>
is it possible to force keying in SYS password after issue sqlplus '/as sysdba'
thanks a lot

Hi ..
Thanks for your reply, but need to know what do u
mean by backward compatibility?
Howard, based on your comment,
1) remove yourself from the dba group
--> what if my id is stay with dba group? can it be?Two things here..
1.Connectiong from the remote machine
2.connecting directly on the server
I think what you are trying is directy on the server
If you are member of DBA group and SQLNET_AUTEHNICATION_SERVICES=NTS in the SQLNET.ora the you connect without passsword/wrong password eventhough REMOTE_LOGIN_PASSWORDFILE=EXCLUSIVE..
THis is called OS authentication whihc takes precedence over passworfile authentication
(2) create a password file
--> if i create this password file, will it be
permenant, if i want revert back to original state,
can i simply delete this password file?If you have created a passwordfie and you want everyone to go through passwordfile in the machine
set REMOTE_LOGIN_PASSSOWRDFILE=EXCLUSIVE
SQLNET_AUTEHNICATION_SERVICES=NONE
Here you only login with password and if you dont passwordfile authentication delete the passwordfile and set the SQLNET_AUTEHNICATION_SERVICES=NTS will enable you to login without password provided you are a member of DBA group
(3) set the remote_os_passwordfile initialisation
parameter to EXCLUSIVE to tell the instance that it
should be used.If you set to to exclusive you can login from the remote machine as sysdba with a password
--> guys, really confuse right now. which one i
should change?
Are you clear?

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through sql developer or Enterprise manager I cannot.
Oracle version is 8.1
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I guess even if you connect with "nolog" still you will receieve the same error.
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Krishna VV wrote:
Hi,
A Password file was created a long ago in PROD and Used for DR also.
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