Formatting Internal Hard Drive

I've been told that I should use Disk Utility to erase my internal hard drive before I restore it from a cloned copy on my external hard drive. When I open Disk Utility, select Macintosh HD, then click Erase, it asks me to choose a "Volume Format." I assume I should just go with the default setting, Mac OS Extended. But I was advised to format my external hard drive as Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
So I did a little research. It sounds like Journaled is preferred because it helps prevent corruption...but it apparently also impedes performance somewhat - I guess. Then I learned that you can use Disk Utility to Enable or Disable Journaling.
In summary, I'm more confused than ever. For my internal hard drive (Macintosh HD), should I choose Mac OS Extended or Mac OS Extended (Journaled)? And after I get my computer up and running again, is it OK to enable and disable journaling on my main hard drive? What would I actually accomplish by doing so?
Thanks.

Hi David Blomstrom;
When journaling was implemented in OS X, I did some testing to find out exactly how much of a performance hit it would cause. After some fairly extensive testing I discovered the performance hit for journaling was significantly less then the variability in the test. Or to say it another way I was unable to detect it. It was that small. After those test I tend to use it just about everywhere. That small of a penalty is worth the protection it gives in my opinion.
Allan

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    I realize this may provide a great laugh for anyone who knows how all this works. If trying to walk someone through this process using Apple Discussions does not make sense, I completely understand. I had nothing to lose (except possibly the cost of the Seagate drive if they won't take it back).
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    "...when the "genius" at the Apple Store said I could install an additional internal hard drive, I gave it a whirl... if I could get this all hooked up and power-supplied, where in the world would I put the new, additional hard drive?"
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    Incidentally, you should post any future questions about your iMac in the Forum dedicated to the CRT-style iMacs. You'll receive informative answers to any questions that you might have, from those who are thoroughly familiar with your model iMac.

  • PLEASE HELP me select new internal hard drive for Macbook Pro 2012 (non-retina)

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    1.  Is a hybrid solid state drive going to need some kind of special formatting after I put it into the macbook so that I can put the operating system on it?
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    2.  Is a "normal" platter hard drive more reliable than a hybrid solid state drive?
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    3.  Is there any additional driver or special software that I have to install for a hybrid solid state drive?
    No
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    5.  If I install snow leopard, can I just go to the App store and get the free upgrade to Mavericks?
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    1) with iPhoto closed, copy the 'iphoto library' from the 'pictures' folder in finder and paste onto new internal HD.
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    2) while launching iPhoto, hold down option key and select 'choose library' from the menu that appears and then navigate to the 'iphoto library' that I copied onto the new internal HD.
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