Freight provision
Hi Friends,
We have a framework order that got an unwanted condition type FRA2 entered with a value. Goods reciept and Invoice has been done already. Looking at the accounting doc, the amount has been posted to Frieght provision G/L Account and GR/IR clearing accounts. Since we do not want the commitment to be paid towards the Freight, is there any way to delete that condition without reversing the postings or transfer that amount between the two G/L's?
The normal way would be to change the condition value to zero or end the effective dates after the reversals so that this condition will not be picked. But I am looking at some other easier way?
Kindly advice.
Regards,
Madan
dear,
freight condition is delivery cost type of condition
u cannt change it after GR
regards,
snb
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Hi,
Normally where-ever freight conditions are there, we maintain them in the condition types of the vendor and the same would be carried to the PO. At the time of GR, we can see the following accounting postings
Raw Materials MM 3000
GR/IR clearg.acct.MM -2500
Freight provision -500
At the time of IV, we do MIRO referencing the PO for the the entire amount it suggests and we could see some price variance.
Now we got a requirement where-in the Invoices for the Freight charges would need to be paid seperately when it was presented by different vendor (Freight provider). As we are looking for a more detailed approach, Could someone tell me basically what needs to be done. Do I have to use any partner functions or is there any way to seperate the invoice verification process?
Many thanks in advance,
Kellyhi
in ur pricing procedure find the conndition of freight
suppose it is xx01
go to spro>mm>pur >conditon >defirne price determination
here in conditions point ur freight condition xx01 and copy it to XX02 and give deersription as freight charge 2
then in calculation schema add theis condition below ur actual freight condition
means xx01 below xx02
then do all settings as same for xx02 as xx01 in calculation schema
then save and try making po
here give two diffrent values for t\wo diffrernt vendors using xx01 and xx02
hope it clears
regards
kunal -
Difference between FR1(freight clearing) and FR2(freight provision)
Hi,
Can anybody tell me what is the difference between transactions FR1(freight clearing) and FR2(freight provision).
thanks in advance
AmitavaFR1 is Used for
*FRA1(Freight %) *
FRB1 Freight (Value)
FR2 is Used for
FRA2(Freight %)
FRB2Freight (Value) -
FREIGHT PROVISION AND CLEARING
Hii,
Please explain the accounting documents to be formed if freight provision and clearing both are taken.
Regards,
aysuhika JainThe transaction key is FR1 for the freight clearing and FR2 for the freight provision.
Normally you can use any of them for your condition type settings.
You can have a look into the similar thread Difference between FR1(freight clearing) and FR2(freight provision) -
Freight provision in purchase order
Hi,
I have 2 cases.
case1 the price in purchase info record is a lumpsum of material cost + freight
case2 the price in purchase info record is only material cost
May I know if case 1, I should provide for freight? I only need to provide for case 2 in purchase order, correct?
thanksHi Kunal,
Thanks alot.
If it is lumpsum (material cost + freight) maintained in PIR and i also have freight condition provided in purchase order, I thought this would be additionally accrual? and the differences will go to price difference if it is based on standard cost.
Kindly let me know if i understand correctly.
example
material cost + freight = $1000
when i have freight condition of 1%, then i will have $10 additional.
So I think if lumpsum then should not provide freight during purchase order.
Kindly advise.
Thanks -
Inbound freight - Goods receipt before Shipment cost document
Hi,
We are in process of implementing Transportation module for capturing Inbound freight.
All our test cases passed except 2) mentioned below:
Operationally transactions sequence can happen in two ways:
1) Purchase Order -> Inbound delivery -> Shipment document ->Shipment Cost ->Goods receipt ->Invoice verification - Materials
> Invoice verification - Freight
2) Purchase Order -> Inbound delivery -> Goods receipt ->Shipment document -> Shipment Cost -> Invoice verification - Materials
> Invoice verification - Freight
In case 1 we are we are getting correct results as freight amount is getting added in material cost during MIGO as below
Inventory Dr (is sum of GR/IR and Frt Provision)
GR/IR Cr
Frt Provision Cr
While in case 2) since MIGO is done prior to shipment document we are not able to get FI effects for freight cost. Hence Invoice booking is not possible for freight neither it is getting added into materials.
Results expected as below :
In case 1 , same as it is happening today.
In case 2, it should post freight provision at shipment cost document so that freight booking can be done.
Inventory Dr
Frt Provision Cr
It will be of great help if anybody suggest solution on this.
Regards,
Swanandesh RaneHi Ilya,
A simple search term "Shipment cost document creation before PGI" and got the below thread which is exactly the same the only difference is for process GR and GI
May i ask you to go through with existing thread first and if your question is not answered please let us know
G/R mandatory before shipment cost.... -
Hi
We have an issue in Stock Transfer. the Stock transfer happens between a manufacturing plant which is excise registered and a depot, which is not excise registered. We raise a Stock Transfer order from the depot on manufacturing plant with a freight component. The system creates a freight provision in the depot, when the goods issue is done by the manufacturing plant against the stock Transfer Order. After the goods issue the material is shown in Transit in report MB5T until the same is recieved by the depot. However, some goods are lost in transit and the same is recovered from the freight vendor. In such a case, we do a MIGO for the actual quantity recieved at depot and pass a debit note to vendor by loading the difference to material.
The issue is:
1. the quantity and the value of the physical inventory recieved have been rectified by a recovery from the vendor.
2. However, how can we remove the goods, which we have short recieved from the report MB5T
The certain work around we have thought could be :
1. Receive the quantity in full at the recieveing Depot and then scrap the material to the extent it has been received short through M Type 551. However, the issue arises in case of transfer of goods from one manufacturing plant to another, where in both are excise registered. In such a case, goods receipt in full would not be correct as it would raise issues in excise registers.
Please suggest
Regards
Sanil K BhandariHi,
One suggestion is you can pass a document through MB1A for material loss in transit for the mateial lost.
Followign accounting Entry would be hit :
Transporter shrinkage Clearing Dr
to Inventory Raw Mateial Cr
You can pass the same document through Mvt. Type 951 (GI Lost in Transit).
Thanks & Regards,
Taral Patel -
Post Goods Receipt(PGI) with custom condition types on purchase order(PO)
Hi all,
I am trying to post goods receipt with custom conditions on the PO. One of the custom conditions is freight (delivery cost). The value on this condition will post to a different G/L account (freight provision account, rather than GR/IR).
My problem is, when posting this GR, the cost center assigned in the PO under 'account assignment' is not used for posting the custom condition, which I really need it to happen.
Simply put, I want all postings from this PO inherit values in 'account assignment'.
I have been looking into configurations in automatic posting and condition types, but I still have no clue where I can make it happen. Do I have to use BADI?
Thanks.Delivey cost condition will be posted to accrual accounts not to the cost center.
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Individual taxes for PO line items
Hi experts,
Is it possible to add individual taxes for line items for PO ?
is it possible for set different taxes for different materials from same vendor ?
At creation of PO user does not know the frieght charge, in this case what is the better way to resolve the problem ?
Thanks & RegardsHi,
Is it possible to add individual taxes for line items for PO ?
Yes...Tax code and jurisdiction code is item specific...If you are not familiar with taxation, please leave the responsibility to the tax consultant in your project...It is a very specialized area and legal issues can arise if not done properly...of course, you can learn but a matter of time...
is it possible for set different taxes for different materials from same vendor ?
yes...this is also pretty much standard
At creation of PO user does not know the frieght charge, in this case what is the better way to resolve the problem ?
Freight Provisions is a standard SAP solution...they can put expected amount...system will automatically take care of actuals...read standard SAP's documentation for Freight Provisions and handling freight in purchase...
Hope, this helps! Reward if useful -
Custom MIRO/Provisional GR
Dear All,
In standard system for import scenario we create an import PO,then custom miro,goods receipt,planned delivery charges and then vendor invoice miro.
Now in one of my client due to unavailability of the space the goods is placed outside the plnat and so we are unable to do the goods migo.But the transporter has raised the bill and we have to pay it.If i do the transporter miro without doing the migo then the quantity and value link doesnot happen in the MIRO.
What my requirement is there any process to do a provisional migo or gate pass by which we can initially do the goods receipt and based on which we can do the transporter bill payment and then do the customs miro based on which the original migo can happen?If so then please let me know the whole process.
Regards,
IndranilHi Indranil
Please look at this.If helpful make use of it.
Freight provision account is a GL account maintained for accounting for the Freight Provisionally.I will explain with an example. In your PO Pricing procedure you would have given condition types, prices, freight etc. At the time of GR based on the condition types, the freight amount will be calculated and posted to Freight Provision account. When you get the actual freight against the item, you can book the actual freight against the line item and if it is more then the provision made earlier the differential freight will be posted. If it is same as the provision then entry will be posted transfering the amount from provision account to the actual freight account.
The purpose of the Freight provision account is to arrive at the cost of material even if the freight bill is not booked against the line item. This will give a notional freight which will be incurred on the material.
Regards,
Gitesh -
Dear experts,
I would like to ask about link of condition type in ME23N to OBYC.
The problem is that we have assigned account in BSX for inventory posting to account xxxx
While creating good receipt for PO (MB01), account not posting to account xxxx but to another account.
After checked, I found that is 'delivery cost' define in condition type (PO 'condition'-me23N)
My question is: if there was a delivery cost in condition type, what is journal to be created while creating Good Receipt in MB01?
Will the posting refer to FR2 in OBYC (freight provision)?
When the journal in BSX will created then?
Thank you in advance.Hi,
There is delivery cost e.g. Freight, custom etc in the condition type and delivery cost journal is
Mercandise a/c DR
To GR IR Account
To Delivery Cost clearing A/c
Posting refers to clearing a/c in FR1 in OBYC.
Regards,
Santosh -
Hi All,
I previously posted a thread on "EDI Rejected", but there were no responces. So, i would like to explain it further in detail.
There was a PO created and GR was posted. Now there is a problem in EDI which got rejected for " Invalid Freight charges for the PO number ############ " . Now, the vendor wants to add freight charges to the PO which will come up in the invoice.
Normally, we do not pay freight charges, unless it is a drop ship, or an emergency expedited order. Now, the situation is drop shipped and we r responsible for the freight .
As far as i know we can add freight charges ONLY while creating PO.
Is there is any solution (ASAP) for this to get cleared so that the freight charges will be paid.
Thanks,
SameerYou already have posted the GR, so you cannot change the conditions in the purchase order.
What you can do is cancel the GR, change your condition schema, adding a manual freight condition, and maintain this condition manually in your PO.
Once you have your condition maintained, you can post GR, and freight provision will be posted.
Hope this helps,
GS -
Pricing condition upload in Inforecords
Hi All,
I need your help for the following issue.
Business requirement is they need a new program which will upload condition in the info record and also they want to change the pricing change values for existing pricing condition .
I am giving Plant , vendor , condition type and validity date from selection .From the input file I am giving material and price , currency .
I am facing problem while changing exist condition type values in Info record in BDC session.While going before BDC session we are checking A017 or A018 table .
From this we are taking condition record no (latest validity condition ).We are using this condition record in KONP table from this we are finding sequence number for the condition type
Now the problem is this sequence not matching with the sequence of PIR conditions screen sequence .In PIR these conditions shuffled on the basis pricing procedure .
Sequence in Condition table
SequNo of cond. Application Condition type
01 M PB00
02 M FRA2
03 M RA00
04 M FRB1
05 M ZA00
06 M ZCOP
07 M ZC00
But in the front end screen of PIR sequence is
PB00 Gross Price 1,175.00
RA00 Discount % on Net 4.000-
ZA00 Surcharge % on Net 2.000
ZCOP Scrapping % on Gross
ZC00 Surcharge/Quantity
FRA2 Freight % provision 1.000
FRB1 Freight (Value) 0.02
These condtion shuffled occured based on pricing procedure .
Could you please help me to get the current sequence while going to BDC session.
Please share you thoughts on this.
Let me know if you required any information to understand the scenario.
Awaiting for your reply.
Thanks & Regards,
Srikanth P.Hi. I know this is late but I'm having issues with the same type of upload and I came accross your post.
I use function module 'PRICING_SCHEME' to get the correct order:
* populate KOMK.
ls_komk-kappl = 'M'.
ls_komk-kalsm = 'RM0002'.
* populate KOMP
ls_komp-kposn = '000001'.
loop at it_input ASSIGNING <ls_input>.
* populate internal table TKOMV.
CLEAR ls_komv.
ls_komv-kappl = 'M'.
ls_komv-kposn = '000001'.
ls_komv-kschl = <ls_input>-kschl.
APPEND ls_komv to rt_komv.
endloop.
CALL FUNCTION 'PRICING_SCHEME'
EXPORTING
calculation_type = 'A'
comm_head_i = ls_komk
comm_item_i = ls_komp
TABLES
tkomv = rt_komv.
endmethod. -
Hello All,
I have a couple of questions about accruals, our Apps. version is 11.0.2, we have set our Accrue Inventory Items set to On Reciept. We would like to set the Accrue Expense Items to On Receipt also. I have done some research on the issue, but I still have some questions?
1) Currently, in our system the Accrue Expense Item is set to On Receipt. An accrual
expense account has been assigned. To date, to start accruing on our PO's, is this the
only step left is to run the GL Import?
2) Since this will be the first time we will be accruing on our PO's, how will this affect
our system?
2) I also read, that it is not a good idea to have both options set to On Receipt? Why? I
have not been able to find much info. on the subject and we must set them up this way.
3) I have also read that there is no intergration between PO and PA, therefore the accruals
can not be recognized in PA. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get the info.
into PA?
Any infornmation that you could provide would be great.
Thank you,
KarenHi,
In SAP, there is a functionality to take care of the planned and unplanned delivery costs.
Planned costs:
If freight and customs duty costs on purchase can be planned or known ahead of time, these are entered as planned costs on the Purchase Order.
In Automatic Account Determination for movements of inventory (OBYC), there are transaction keys FR2(Freight provisions) and FR4(Custom provisions) are available. If a condition type,in pricing is marked as provision-relevant, then the accounts maintanined under transaction keys FR2 and FR4 are used to generate provisional entries.
In addition to freight and customs duty, there may be additional types of delivery costs on a purchase order, you can create provision for other delivery costs using RUE transaction key.
Unplanned Costs:
The transaction key UPF is supporting in to post unplanned delivery costs in purchasing.
I think that I have elaborately discussed, more than what you want. Trust it helps! If not, revert back.
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System determining CENVABLE TAX along with Service tax
Hi ASAP,
RAW material Bill passing scenarios
Excisable Material is supplied by 1000 party, Transportation support given by 2000 party.As per supply of Excisable raw material, IV for Party 1000 ( Goods/Services) & 2000 ( planned Delivery Cost) will take place.
Step 1.I have created a PO and in Condition Tab freight cost FRC1 Condition type is assigned with party 200. This is to be passing on to 2000 party (transporter).
Step 2. I have done MIGO for Excisable Mat., G/L entry been passed correctly.
Mat:
4003300 RM- normal ore 163,550.47INR
2021000 Provisional Liab-GR/ 156,654.40-INR
2223000 Entry Tax payable (R 932.07- INR
2023000 Freight Prov-inward 5,964.00- INR
Excise:
4610410 RG 23A-Higher Ed Ces 219.32 INR V1
4610100 RG 23A-BED 21,931.62 INR V1
4610400 RG 23A-Ed Cess 438.63 INR V1
2205000 CENVAT clearing 22,589.57- INR V1
Step 3. Now MIRO for Goods/Services for party 1000.
10000020 TATA STEEL LIMITED186,413.73-INR VI
2021000 Provisional Liab-GR/ 156,654.40INR VI
2205000 CENVAT clearing 21,931.62 INR VI
2205000 CENVAT clearing 438.63 INR VI
2205000 CENVAT clearing 219.32 INR VI
4630100 VAT receivable RM 7,169.76 INR VI
Step 3. Now when i am try to create MIRO for freight cost where service tax is applicable and given relevant TAX code.
when I am trying to calculate service tax , system is calculating wrong figure and in simulation mode, there I am finding that apart from Service tax G/L determination , system is also determining CENVABLE BED & ECS 14 & 2% Respectively over fright cost 5,964.00.which should not ; It has to determine only Service tax over fright cost 5,964.00 .
2003000 N.N. SINGH & BROTHERS7,553.00- S7
2023000 Freight Provision- 5,964.00 S7
4620100 CENVATABLE SERVICE 716.00 S7
4620200 CENVATABLE EDU.CESS 14.00 S7
4620201 CENVATABLE HIGH.EDU. 7.00 S7
2205000 CENVAT clearing 835.00 S7
2205000 CENVAT clearing 17.00 S7
Note: Tax code S7 is working fine in other cases but here its really surprising me.
plz guide me to resolve this error as earliest as possible,
Ponts will be awarded for relevant Reply
With Worm Regards
Manojhi Guru,
this problen has been solved.
Problen was with Tax Condition records.
there is one condition records which is applicable for both tax code i.e. against chapter ID one default tax code is assigned which is applicalble for for Mat as well service item.
1. I have deleted this Tax condition records. and created one tax condition records for material for mat & Vendor specific.
ie. tax requirement for mat and services is being solved.
2. for Mat. MIRO, system is picking up mat& vendor specific and for services MIRO, system is picking up Services specific tax condition records.
Thanks to all gurus.
Points has been assigned for your InPUTs.
Thanks & Regards
MAnoj K Singh
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