From Forms Product Management - Success of Oracle Forms

The Forms Product Management team are pleased to announce we have posted a new paper on OTN which tells you
about the success of Oracle Forms.
If you want to find out who is using Forms, the kind of applications that are best targetted by Forms, and what is the future
of Oracle Forms then please go to:
http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/htdocs/Forms_Success/forms_success.html
As, always, we welcome your feedback.
Regards
Grant Ronald
Forms Product Management

Oracle Forms is quit impressive as both a client/server and web-based solution. I have yet to see an application run over the web the way Oracle Forms does. It appears as a client/server application, except it's completely web-based.
That's quite amazing, however, I have found that the rich interface and the sophistication of running Forms over the web comes with a big cost. The 8MB Jinitiator download turns a lot of people off.
What I'm really wondering is if there is anyone out there who is using Oracle Forms as a web solution ?
Thanks for your time.
Best Regards,
Bob Mazzo

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  • From Forms Product Management - Using WebStart with Forms

    I noticed a number of posts on this forum asking if you can run Forms as an application (using WebStart) rather than an applet in a browser.
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    Grant Ronald
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    Grant
    I don't think you'll get too many replies. I expect most people here are either committed to using Web Forms already (and so don't need this functionality) or else are still in client-server mode (and so don't understand what you asking).
    We are just in the process of migrating from Forms4.5 to 9i (I'm in the WebUtil beta) and we are still finding out all sorts of non-obvious things about web-deployment - don't get me started on how awful the whole GIF thing is! So I'm not really qualified to have an opinion about Webstart. I only have the vaguest idea what it does and I'm not sure I want to read up about it just so I can tell you whether to go ahead with it.
    What I will say is this:
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    (2) Choice is a good thing. Your recent experience of developers' spleen over the removal of client-server should tell you that people respond well to being given options and badly to having them removed.
    (3) If I've correctly understood Haris Peco in their second point we could get rid of O9iAS and that would be flipping marvellous for everybody (except possibly the VP in charge of O9iAS Sales :P).
    My tuppence ha'penny worth.
    Cheers, APC

  • Announcement from Forms Product Management

    We often get asked about "real" customers who are deploying "real" Forms applications. In order to give you some examples,
    we have a customer testimonials page which documents their success with Forms.
    For example, on the Forms OTN page we have highlighted Metro who have gone live with 4,000 concurrent Forms users.
    http://www.oracle.com/ip/develop/ids/customers/metro.html
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    http://www.oracle.com/ip/develop/ids/customers/index.html
    Regards
    Grant Ronald
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    FORMS 9i RELEASE DATE : End of year 2001
    Date: Oct 8, 2001 09:01 PT
    Towards the end of this year.
    Regards
    Grant Ronald
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  • Announcement from Forms Product Management - new Forms Demos/Samples

    The Forms Product Management team are please to announce our new Forms Sample Code/Demo page
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    FORMS 9i RELEASE DATE : End of year 2001
    Date: Oct 8, 2001 09:01 PT
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    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management
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    Date : Jul 19, 2001 09:40 PT
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  • From Forms Product Management - New Forms Articles on OTN

    The Forms Product Management team are proud to announce that we
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  • Webinar with Forms Product Management

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    The Oracle Forms Product Management Team are please to announce three new papers to published on OTN.
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  • From Forms Product Management - Forms/J2EE Article in Oracle Magazine

    Oracle Magazine have published a great article explaining how Forms and J2EE are providing complementary technologies. Read how one of our customer has found a good balance in building their business applications.
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  • From Forms Product Management - Oracle Forms 10g Demos

    We have released the Oracle Forms 10g demos which are now available on OTN.
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    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management

    Oracle Forms is quit impressive as both a client/server and web-based solution. I have yet to see an application run over the web the way Oracle Forms does. It appears as a client/server application, except it's completely web-based.
    That's quite amazing, however, I have found that the rich interface and the sophistication of running Forms over the web comes with a big cost. The 8MB Jinitiator download turns a lot of people off.
    What I'm really wondering is if there is anyone out there who is using Oracle Forms as a web solution ?
    Thanks for your time.
    Best Regards,
    Bob Mazzo

  • From Forms Product Management - Oracle Application Server 10g for Windows

    I've updated http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms with links to the Oracle Application Server 10g and Oracle Developer Suite 10g for Windows (which has just be released).
    You can check out the new features this version of the product bring for Forms at:
    http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/pdf/10g/frm10gnewfeatures.pdf
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    Grant Ronald
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    Nice - thanks!

  • From Forms Product Management - Free Forms Upgrade Workshops

    We are pleased to annouce more dates for the Forms upgrade to the web workshops. If you are considering moving your client/server application to the web come to these events and hear directly from Oracle's Product Management team about the benefits and the tips and techniques.
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    Regards
    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management

    I still get the 404 error.
    I go to http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/forms/index.html then follow the link titled "Free Oracle Forms Upgrade Workshops" which leads to http://www.oracle.com/go/?&Src=3581382&Act=4
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  • From Forms Product Management -Using Forms and SCM

    Oracle9i Forms and Oracle9i Software Configuration Manager (SCM) are integrated so that software configuration management can be done directly from Oracle9i Forms Developer.
    Check out this new paper in the "NEWS" section on http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms
    for more details.
    Regards
    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management

    Grant
    I don't think you'll get too many replies. I expect most people here are either committed to using Web Forms already (and so don't need this functionality) or else are still in client-server mode (and so don't understand what you asking).
    We are just in the process of migrating from Forms4.5 to 9i (I'm in the WebUtil beta) and we are still finding out all sorts of non-obvious things about web-deployment - don't get me started on how awful the whole GIF thing is! So I'm not really qualified to have an opinion about Webstart. I only have the vaguest idea what it does and I'm not sure I want to read up about it just so I can tell you whether to go ahead with it.
    What I will say is this:
    (1) Anything that makes 9i Forms more like a client-server experience for the users would be a good thing, bceause it would minimise the shock of transition.
    (2) Choice is a good thing. Your recent experience of developers' spleen over the removal of client-server should tell you that people respond well to being given options and badly to having them removed.
    (3) If I've correctly understood Haris Peco in their second point we could get rid of O9iAS and that would be flipping marvellous for everybody (except possibly the VP in charge of O9iAS Sales :P).
    My tuppence ha'penny worth.
    Cheers, APC

  • From Forms Product Management - Using Enterprise Manager

    I have just posted a new viewlet which shows the Enterprise Manager features in 10g. If you have not used EM before its a great high level demo which shows you how yuo can manage your Forms applications from a console. For those already familiar with EM you will be able to check out some of the new work we have done in integrating Forms and EM.
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    Thanks
    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management

    Grant
    I don't think you'll get too many replies. I expect most people here are either committed to using Web Forms already (and so don't need this functionality) or else are still in client-server mode (and so don't understand what you asking).
    We are just in the process of migrating from Forms4.5 to 9i (I'm in the WebUtil beta) and we are still finding out all sorts of non-obvious things about web-deployment - don't get me started on how awful the whole GIF thing is! So I'm not really qualified to have an opinion about Webstart. I only have the vaguest idea what it does and I'm not sure I want to read up about it just so I can tell you whether to go ahead with it.
    What I will say is this:
    (1) Anything that makes 9i Forms more like a client-server experience for the users would be a good thing, bceause it would minimise the shock of transition.
    (2) Choice is a good thing. Your recent experience of developers' spleen over the removal of client-server should tell you that people respond well to being given options and badly to having them removed.
    (3) If I've correctly understood Haris Peco in their second point we could get rid of O9iAS and that would be flipping marvellous for everybody (except possibly the VP in charge of O9iAS Sales :P).
    My tuppence ha'penny worth.
    Cheers, APC

  • From Forms Product Management - New Diagnostic Document

    I've just posted a new document on OTN which goes into great depth on how to debug errors, bugs and performance issues when deploying Forms on the Web.
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    As always, we are keen to hear your feedback.
    Thanks
    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management

    Grant...can you also tell us if you expect to release a pre-904 webutil release?
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  • From Forms Product Management - New Reports Integration White Paper

    I've posted a new white paper on OTN which explains how to call Reports with a parameter from Forms Services using the Forms RUN_REPORT_OBJECT Built-in.
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    To download the paper, go to http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms , its the top news item.
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    Grant Ronald
    Forms Product Management

    Brian,
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