Fuji X100S Lens Profile Question

I recall reading here that the lens profile for the Fuji X100S is handled automatically in LR. One should not select the X100 profile because that would amount to double-profiling the image. Yet now I read that ACR 8.4RC has a profile for the X100S.
Does this mean that we have been going without a profile all this time?

There is a built-in lens profile that is always applied and cannot be turned off. The vignetting and chromatic aberration were and continue to be corrected by this profile, as they have always been. There is a new information box in ACR 8.4 and presumably soon in LR 5.4 that indicates this correction is being applied.
Additionally, I enabled the new external lens profile. The vignetting and geometric distortion were corrected by this profile.
So the vignetting is being corrected twice, once by the internal profile and once by the external profile. I have let Eric Chan from Adobe this is happening and he has acknowledged he’ll be looking into it.
Until Adobe fixes this double correction, the Vignetting slider needs to be set to 0 when the external lens profile is enabled to turn off the external profile’s extra vignetting correction.

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I've done a lot of field work with a Canon G9, and it would be extremely helpful to have a lens profile, but I operate the camera remotely, and in this mode, it only shoots jpegs. I have 3 questions:
1) Is there a G9 lens profile for jpeg?
2) Is it possible to convert my jpegs to RAW?
3) Would it be possible to use an existing G9 lens profile (RAW) on images converted from jpeg, or would that be futile?

You can do number 3 (convert a raw profile to JPEG) with usually okay results, and I've posted how to do that on numerous occasions.
Change all the lines that look like:
<stCamera:CameraRawProfile>True</stCamera:CameraRawProfile>
to False (preferably in a new file).

Does Lightroom 5 support the Fuji X100s lens yet?

for lens correction.

Minimum requirement to support Fujifilm FinePix X100 is LR3.4 and Adobe Camera Raw 6.4.
This is the only lense profile which is supported as of now.
Please check following knowledge base article.
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/lens-profile-support-lightroom-4.html#fuji

Can I obtain a Camera Raw lens profile for my Fujifilm X100S?

Can I obtain a Camera Raw lens profile for my Fujifilm X100S?

The Fuji X100S uses built-in lens profile supplied in the raw files, themselves, so Adobe applies the profile automatically and it cannot be turned off.
There is no indication of the profile being applied in Lightroom but the recent versions of the Camera Raw plug-in for Photoshop will indicate that a built-in profile is being used:

LR 5.4 and embedded Fuji lens profiles -- true or not?

Hello there, I have just bought LR 5.4 and was looking forward to using it with my Fuji X-T1. The camera is supported by I can't find any lens profiles for the XF lenses. I saw on the Web LR apparently used embedded lens profiles found in the RAW files. Is this true? If so, how does it work and why are there unofficial lens profiles available via the lens profile downloader? What benefit do these offer?

Photoshop CC and ACR 8.4 have a way to see when a built-in profile is used, and yes the newer Fuji cameras have built-in lens profiles. Lens Profiles can correct chromatic aberration, geometric distortion and vignetting. Sometimes a built-in profile only corrects some of those, so a downloadable profile could be adding a correction the built-in one doesn't do, or improving on it in some way.
Here is an example of the built-in profile for an X100S correcting for CA and vignetting but not geometric distortion, so it could make sense that another profile could be built to correct for the latter.
My understanding is that the built-in profiles correct for the same issues as the camera does for its own JPGs, and any external profile is for additional corrections.

Camera Profile Impossible to select for Fuji X100 pictures

Hi All,
I hope someone can help me with this.
I am experimenting with a new Fuji X100. I imported my images (raw) with no issues and created a custom DNG profile with X-Rite colorchecker.
When I open a Nikon NEF file I can eventually select this X100 profile in the Camera Calibration section, but if I try to select this profile for the X100 (the one it is supposed to be used with) no way. The only profile shown is the Adobe Standard.
Any idea why? Any suggestion on how to better calibrate the RAF fujy raw file that I think are imported really badly?
Thank you!
Cristiano

Hi Jim,
thank you for your answer. I understand what you mean.
To explain better what is happening to me: I have created a color profile using the export/colorchecker passport. I used a RAF fuji raw file (in which I pictured the colorchecker) and I then exported the file creating a DNG calibrated profile.
So this color profile is now available among all others (my camera portrait, landscape vivid etc...together with the Adobe standard ones). But they are only displayed (and thus selectable) if I am editing a Nikon Nef (and I assume any other raw) file.
If I am editing a Fuji Raw file I cannot even see the just created colorchecker profile developed on the fuji file (and correctly I am not expecting to see the Nikon ones).
Is something elese I am missing?
Thanks!
Cristiano

Fuji IS Pro P\profile question...

I use LR3 and have a Fuji IS Pro and shoot raw. For those that don't know the IS Pro is basically a Fuji S5 Pro setup for forensic work. It has slightly customized firmware and the hot mirror has been replaced with optical glass to make it a full spectrum camera so it records from UV up into IR to around 1000nm.
If I put a UV-IR cut filter on the lens than it is basically the same as a Fuji S5 Pro. Is there any way to get LR3 to allow me to use the Fuji S5 Pro profiles on the raw files from the IS Pro?
Thanks,
Shawn

There is a built-in lens profile that is always applied and cannot be turned off. The vignetting and chromatic aberration were and continue to be corrected by this profile, as they have always been. There is a new information box in ACR 8.4 and presumably soon in LR 5.4 that indicates this correction is being applied.
Additionally, I enabled the new external lens profile. The vignetting and geometric distortion were corrected by this profile.
So the vignetting is being corrected twice, once by the internal profile and once by the external profile. I have let Eric Chan from Adobe this is happening and he has acknowledged he’ll be looking into it.
Until Adobe fixes this double correction, the Vignetting slider needs to be set to 0 when the external lens profile is enabled to turn off the external profile’s extra vignetting correction.

When I attempt to apply a lens profile in the Develop module the only choices are for the Fujifilm X100/S/T even though in the Library module the EXIF data correctly shows the camera as the X-T1 and the precise lens used to take the picture. How do I get

When I attempt to apply a lens profile in the Develop module the only choices are for the Fujifilm X100/S/T even though in the Library module the EXIF data correctly shows the camera as the X-T1 and the precise lens used to take the picture. How do I get the right profile available?

First, the required profile needs to be present. LR 5.4 supports the X-T1 in terms of understanding its Raw format, but will not come with a profile for every lens which can be mounted onto that.
A profile is made for each specific lens, as mounted on a certain camera. It can also be used with pictures taken on a different (reasonably similar) camera body than the one originally used during profiling. This is subject to the sensor format: you can employ a given lens profile made for full frame, on an image from a crop sensor behind the same lens - but not vice versa.
Next, the image type needs to correspond to the image type which has been built into the profile: Raw, or non-Raw.
Lightroom offers only profiles of the right type for the image(s) concerned. There are many more provided for correcting camera Raw, than for correcting camera JPG. That is also the case with additional profiles, e.g. those accessed via the Adobe lens profile downloader utility.
Finally, in the event that there simply is no profile out there for a given lens, it is not particularly difficult (though a little tedious) for the end user to generate one, using a further Adobe utility which is downloadable as a package, including a range of checkerboard calibration targets, each of which needs to be printed at a stated physical size.

8.4RC mentions support for Fuji lens profiles - any details known?

Curious if this is new support or if it's always been there and now ACR shows a message about it. I installed the ACR 8.4RC and loaded a RAW file from my X-T1. Looking at the Lens Corrections tab and the Profile sub-tab, there's now a message at the bottom that says "Built-in lens profile applied: XF14mmF2.2 R. Click for more info." When I clicked, a small dialog box appeared which offered a little more info:
Fujifilm X-T1
XF14mmF2.8R
This raw file contains a built-in lens profile for correcting chromatic aberration and vignetting. The profile has already been applied automatically to this image.
I experimented and got this for RAWs shot with my X-E2 as well and also my 18-55 and 55-200 lenses. I then went back to ACR 8.3 and confirmed that the messages are not there.
I notice that despite what they say, going to the Color sub-tab and checking Remove Chromatic Aberration was still required for some images.
I didn't see this aspect of the update listed in any release notes. Does anyone know any details about this? Is there a way to turn it off if so desired? I'm curious if the Fuji profile is as good as one that could be created with the Lens Profile Creator. The message doesn't mention geometric correction which would be nice.

The information about what built-in lens profile is being applied is new to ACR 8.4, but the application of built-in lens profiles is not new.
Whether those lens profiles do a perfect job is another matter, of course. And just like in previous versions, you cannot turn the built-in profiles off, but if someone creates an external profile those can also be applied.
The one thing to be careful of is if the built-in lens profile also corrects the same aspect as the external profile, for example, vignetting, then it’ll get double-corrected and the way to avoid this is to set the manual strength setting of that profile correction parameter, either vignetting or distortion, to its minimum value, effectively turning off the external profile’s contribution.

DNG profile with Fuji X100s raw files...

Hi,
I'm trying to make a dng profile for my Fuji X100s (I did the same recently for my Canon 5dII).
Because I shoot architecture and interiors, I profiled for daylight, tungsten, and flourescent light (I also did this for the Canon with success, much improved color, sepecially in fllourescent light).
With the Fuji x100s, the daylight profile was good, the tungsten seemed very desaturated, and the profiler kept giving me an error message for the flourescent light saying there was an extreme color cast on the grey patch and it couldn't create a profile (I tried 2850, 6500, and "both tables"). The grey patch on the flourescent card was reading (aprox) 3200K and +50 Magenta, so not off the charts, so to speak....
Why is this? Is it to do with the type of sensor in the camera (Xtrans CMOS)?
Thanks,
Alan.

JPGs are relatively small, and raw files relatively big, so if there is an issue writing data to the card where it corrupts after a certain amount is written, then the raw file could be the only file with enough data written to it thing that is corrupt. If every single raw file is corrupted the same way and none of the JPGs seem to be then it may be something else related to raw files on the computer, like the computer memory, or the drive that the camera-raw cache is on, or even a virus-scanner locking a file at the wrong time when it is written or read. The other thing to watch is that the raw files have an embedded JPG preview in them that may be ok, as well, and only when LR interprets the raw data will the corruption be visible. The embedded JPG preview is what you see in the Import panel grid and is also what you see momentarily just after you’ve imported, before LR has a chance to recompute a preview from the raw data.
To see both raw and jpgs in LR then you need enable the LR preference to treat raw and jpg files separately, for future imports so what you’ve already imported will stay the same, until you do a Synchronize on the folder Once you enable that preference then you can synchronize the folder to have LR reimport just the new (newly visible) JPGs.
The most important initial test to do is transfer the same set of files from the card to the computer more than once—you’ll have to disable the duplicate checking temporarily—and check if they have precisely the same corruption in each copy of the image or if it looks different. If it is the same then the data is likely bad on the card. If it is different, then the photos may be ok on the card and something in the transfer process or the computer, itself, may be bad, and there is hope you can mitigate the problem and get the uncorrupted raw data, somehow.

Another Lens Profile Enable question

I know this question has been asked repeatedly and I believe have read all the answers to date but is it possible to keep the check box checked for each new picture being developed in Lightroom 3.4. The default profile works fine but the box has to be checked for each new photo and this is disruptive of a smooth workflow. If it is not possible please let me know. thanks jc

Thanks Beat, I was unaware of the performance impact Lens Profile corrections have on the Spot Removal tools.
If you don't normally use the Spot Removal tool on your images (I don't), then you are better off enabling Lens Profile in the default Develop settings. For those few images that need Spot Removal work simply uncheck 'Enable Profile Corrections.' Don't forget to re-enable lens profiles when done to see your final results.
I also suggest determining your own lens profile default settings. I use Distortion '0', Vignetting 50-75, and C. abberation 100. REASON: Distortion setting will cause some cropping of the image when applying correction and in most images distortion is not visible. I suggest manually selecting Distortion correction only for those images that exhibit obvious straight line curvature. I actually find most pictures shot with my highest distortion lens look better with '0' Distortion correction. The Vignetting setting at 100% can look unnatural and may cause areas toward the corners of your image to lose some sharpness, especially with very wide angle lenses. I set my default for 50% Vignetting and rarely see a need for more. The C. aberration control does an excellent job of correction and has no other issues, so I leave it at 100%.
I suggest you try it for yourself with each individual lens and make your own judgment – Your mileage may vary dependent on lens performance and subjects. Certainly feel free to set your default lens profiles settings differently for each lens where you feel it looks best.....and that may be 100 for all of them. You can always "fine-tune" the adjustments for images that require it.
To change the lens profile default settings, adjust all sliders to the new settings, click the down-arrow next to 'Setup' under 'Lens Corrections,' and select 'Save New Lens Profile Defaults.' You can also choose 'Reset Lens Profile Settings' to return to 100, 100, 100 default.

Support for Fuji X-T1 Lens profiles

Why doesn't Lightroom 6 CC have the profile corrections/support for the Fuji X-T1 lenses?

Are you seeing uncorrected distortions or just wondering why your lens isn't listed in the lens profile area? For mirrorless cameras, like I believe the Fuji is, the lens profiles are built-in (perhaps even in the raw file, itself) and always on and there is nothing to select in the lens profile list dropdown because the profile is being gotten a different way.

Lens Profiles for the Fuji X-E2 and the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader

I just picked up an Fujifilm X-E2 and an 18mm f/2 lens. I noticed that LR 5.4 doesn't have a profile for this lens/body combination and I'm a little unclear whether it is applied automatically (as was the case with the X100s prior to 5.4), or not.
I also noticed that I can download profiles for the X-E1/18mm combination using the Adobe Lens Profile Downloader and wondered if this was a correct thing to do.
Thank you,
Robert

A couple things:
1) ACR 8.4 will show if a built-in profile has been applied and what corrections have been applied, so if you want to post a raw file from your camera and lens combination someone with PS / ACR 8.4 can give feedback about what built-in profiles might be doing.
2) Regarding the X100S, using ACR 8.4 RC, for an example image I downloaded, the built-in profile corrected Chromatic Aberration and Vignetting. The Adobe-supplied external profile corrected Vignetting and Geometric Distortion. So the Adobe-supplied profile does additional Geometric Distoration compared with the built-in profile. However, there was double-correction for Vignetting so one has to turn off the vignetting correction for the particular lens profile to avoid double-correction. Here is a side-by-side example showing these corrections:
This double-correction of vignetting appears to be have been corrected in the final ACR 8.4 and presumably LR 5.4.

Lens Profile Downloader question

I have downloaded the latest version of Adobe Lens Profile Downloader 1.0.1, and I have AIR installed (as required), but the downloader won't install. It gives the message "The application cannot be installed due to a certificate problem. ..."
What should I do to get it to install?
Steve

Thanks for your response. I followed the link, and unfortunately the particular problem of failure to install wasn't solved there either.
I found another link for a similar certificate problem (involving installation of another Adobe product) and the advice was to uninstall Adobe Download Manager and reinstall the latest version. However when I went to the oOntrol Panel (Windows 7), there is no listing to indicate that Adobe Download Manger is installed.
It is all rather strange, as I have the earlier version of Lens Profile Downloader installed and it works fine (I am familiar with profiles and have created my own, which I have shared on the Adobe server).

Tokina 11-16 lens profile-download question

Lens profile downloader_p3_102510.air then clicking on this did not produce any results ....although AdobeAir is on the hard drive ...so I downloaded on 7/12 the AdobeAirInstaller so it might be that my air version is old since its a version 1.## and this download indicates a higher version.
So the only way to download a lens profile is with this downloader ? OR
lensprofile_creator_p3_win_042711.zip Does this have the capacity to view shared lens profiles and download?
Does this downloader go automatically to the storage location and produce a list from which to choose?
The Tokina lens arrived yesterday along with a 7D and I didn't value the lens profile corrections until I had to adjust a wide view of a building, one of the first test shots.
I have to admit I'm a little nervous about the above installs and then searching for the lens profile download . Its likely the AIR feature since in the past I did get errors in the event log connected with AdobeAir.
I guess I'm double checking on routines that others have used.
Rose

I cannot figure out how the download is to begin. I have clicked on Download....the bar fills with a colour and no file arrives on my hard drive.
You need to click on the gold box near the top right of the screen that says 'Upload file.' You will be prompted to create a "free account."
OHho...factory built in tilt....is that so?....I have wondered about that because its just TOO consistent and I have lined up with an object on occassion. Good info to include the tilt into the preset.
Shoot a picture of a window frame that nearly fills the viewfinder and make sure it is perfectly lined up on all four sides. Using a tripod helps. If you see a tilt, then you have the factory assembly defect of a "tilted" viewfinder image. Don't be surprised if it is also a little off-center! My 300D viewfinder is tilted clockwise and to the right slightly. Canon repair may be able to adjust it, but since it was so slight I never bothered.
AND specifics according to the camera serial number... I haven't had to deal with that to date but I have read about it,so its good that the code refers to the camera serial number rather than having to make specific settings.
Please read my correction note – There is no need to do this unless you own two of the same camera model and need to set the defaults differently for each.
I've just used the Jao, Nikon profile on a few Lake Huron sunset shots and a slight correction was made but I still had a tilt ....the lake was running downhill to the north <grin>
You are confusing "rectilinear distortion" such as "barrel" and "pin cushion" distortion with "perspective distortion!" ALL super wide-angle lenses can exhibit significant perspective distortion in different shooting situations, which can be very useful for "creative effects." Vertical perspective distortion is created when the camera is tilted up or down, and Horizontal perspective distortion is created when the camera pointed left or right of a central object. Go into Lightroom Develop module>Lens Correction>'Manual' and move the 'Vertical' and 'Horizontal' adjustments. This applies digital image processing to "correct" your picture, similar to what an expensive tilt-shift lens does on-the-camera
Even when you correct your picture elements for "parallel" vertical and horizontal lines, a super wide-angle lens may still exhibit what appears to be a "distorted perspective." That's both the virtue and deficit of shooting with short focal length lenses – It's up to you to properly apply this creatively to your subjects….but that’s a whole other subject! There are some good tips here by Ken Rockwell:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/how-to-use-ultra-wide-lenses.htm

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