Fund Management VS Project System

Hi Experts,
We implemented FM in 2000 Year ! & Recently we are going to implement PS module. What is the impacts on FM & Where exactly maintain the budget whether PS side or FM side? Consultant would like to maintain budget in PS only ! If we accept the same ,what will be the solution ?
What are the derivation rules needs to create ?
Rgds
ManiSuma

Hi,
These two modules run independently, and there is no interaction between them on the level of budget control: that is, the budget could be managed in FM and in the same time on project level in PS.
If you use FM for general budget management, then implementing PS should have no impact on your FM derivation rules, as long as you don't require special re-organization in FM (given the fact, that the budget for projects will be managed in PS and not in FM).
Regards,
Eli

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it is very urgent send me as early as possible
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hi
for Project systems
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/MYSAP/SR_PS.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CAARCPS/CAARCPS.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/PS/PS.pdf
funds management
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/FIFM/FIFM.pdf
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We have funds managment activated for operational expenses(OPEX).
Project budget will be used for all CAPEX requirements. However, there will be common G/L accounts used in both operational expenses and capital expenses. For eg. steel could be issued both for projects as well as maintenance activities.
Please clarify on the following:
1) How to avoid duplication of budgets in PS and FM.
2) Can we forego PS budgetings and depend on only FM budgeting to meet the above issue. Can't we achieve the PS budgeting functionality in FM.
3) What differentiates or advantages we get in PS budget over FM budget.
Regards
Srikrishna

Srikrishna,
I am not aware of FM, but for the point mentioned by you
However, there will be common G/L accounts used in both operational expenses and capital expenses. For eg. steel could be issued both for projects as well as maintenance activities.
You can over come this by using valuation class in the material master Acoounting1 view. There you have 2 valuation classes
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2. Project Valuation Class - This is used for Project (when you mention account assignment as Q in PR or PO) system will read this valuation class, if no value exists in this field, it reads Valuation class. Again if the value in this field is different than the Valuation class, then it will contain different set of G/L account, with help of this you can distinguish the operative and Project G/L accounts and inventory / consumption separately.
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Edited by: Jasmine G on Jul 1, 2008 6:42 PM

Hi Experts
There are 2 standard datasources 0PU_IS_PS_42 & 0PU_IS_PS_31 which are used bu our client which has all the budget information. i need to know the tables from where the data is populating.
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>Hi Experts
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Hi!
We implemented Funds management-budget Control System.
Following process is not working properly.
when we transfer budget from one fund center to another fund center, the system is not checking the budget available on sender fund center.
budget is being transferred from sender fund center even that fund center have zero budget to another receiver fund center.
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Dear Muralidhar !
In Budget Control System, there is no need of budget profile. Budget profile are maintained in Former budgeting.
Any How, I checked the budget profile. it is fine.
Thanks
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I have done funds managment (budgetory control system) and the same is working fine on control of expenses
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I will explain the same with an example
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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/08/ea9b16d3b24da5a605ebc46053423a/frameset.htm
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Dear you,
Have anyone seen the following when updating FM from FI document:
"System error:Funds management update (FMRI, CHECK_WE_RE)"
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This note you gave did not ring a bell for me
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We want the information about the actual payments with in the project system reporting (S_ALR_87013574).
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the wbs will receive the statistical posting, so there needs to be a real object also.
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hi sap gurus
can any one give me the details for the
Funds Management with Budget Control System (BCS) submodule
if any material pls send to my mail id : [email protected]
its very urgent pls
thank you

Hi,
Try executing FMAVCREINIT report and check if the problem persists.
Regards,
Eli

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Hello Experts,
please check our process as below:
Order confirms than sales order and project will create
material of BOM is assigned to any activity in project so these material (RM) will be procured and consumed
assign activity for all work done on material to produce FG or SFG.
confirm activity whenever any work done like fabrication done so confirm and its cost comes to WBS.
than we have to subcontracting process so dispach SFG from this and receive after activity done by third party.
than more work is done and confirm these activity. than after all work done we get FG in stock. than delivery from project.
We are facing issue in above business process of our client as below:
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Assume this is my project structure & attached components. I will procure this components externally. After GRN, This components will be issued to network with 581 Q movement type.
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We are on Enterprise 4.7 release 1.0 for government solutions.
My end users has asked to create a Project System report with "as of date".
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